yeah meatballs in yogurt, cool dish kashmir
― max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
i will seriously kill you you're insulting my mom right now max
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
false, a cuisine can be completely delicious absent meat and fish dishes
show me where I said any such falsehood.
also, yes, I do know that not everyone in india is hindu and that meat and fish are incorporated into indian cuisine, but I was thinking that perhaps the full creative power of the tradition had not been brought to bear, as opposed to the effloresence of their vegetarian dishes.
― Aimless, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
what vegans say they don't like Italian food? I will sic the ghost of my great-grandmother on them, she'll be rattlin ghost chains and yelling mangia
― 2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
mughal dynasty cooking is very meat and cream heavy (korma, for example) and is represented well in indian restaurants in the u.s.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
i have an indian coworker and his family is from gujarat and he is a vegetarian. he loves subway and candy!
― tunnel joe (harbl), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
well american restaurant korma is inauthentic but still tasty
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
m bison: Because in "Italian" restaurants EVERYTHIGN HAS CHEESE except a plain dish of pasta with tomatoes diced on top of it, which the kitchen will grudgingly make for vegetarians and small food-intolerant children.
xp KORMA IS MY FAVORITE.
― WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
aimless, there are lots of foods in the world not incorporated into italian food - 'perhaps the full creative power of the tradition' is not complete until they discover, idk, curry powder and twinkies. that argument is pretty nonsensical to me, unless there's some proof that meat is inherently some next-level sensation.
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
this is so embarrassing i'm repping for muslim influence on indian culture it's like i've become my dad
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
still might vote italian tbh
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
another reason to vote Indian is that the Vaisnava cuisine of west Bengal makes do without onion & garlic and I guarantee even the most exacting insufferable foodie here would, having chowed on a good Vaisnava feast, declare it delicious and lacking nothing, whereas if you take onion & garlic away from Italian cuisine it's game over for Italian cuisine
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
I'm voting india, I can't trust a nation who changed their entire cuisine because of a conquistador
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
oh well that's fucking every restaurant in America tho, we are talking about cuisines, not olive gardens/carrabas/macaroni grill
making vegan Italian food at home is hella easy
xp
― 2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i see we are undertaking a rhetorical sleight-of-hand that allows us to divide "indian food" into region-specific cuisines but regards "italian food" as a monolith. i will not take part.
― max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
in conclusion, shakespeare was likely a kashmiri muslim. /my dad
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
is a national cuisine more than the sum of its parts?
― 2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
only if it's the creamofsumyungguy
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i like this theory
― max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
my dad has a lot of theories 4 u
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9287652/images/kashmiri.jpg
― max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
horsehoe's dad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWd9a8Ck8U
― ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
is there any region of Italy where the cuisine doesn't involve onions or garlic and is still flavorful? there's no question northern italian vs. southern italian is a whole range of tastes but the vaisnavas seriously elevate the game when they do their "take away our onion and garlic and we can still make stuff that will make you slap yourself" deal
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
omg ledge! that skit otm.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
In fairness India is like 10 times the size of Italy at the very least.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
I really love all the Italian staples obviously but when you go to one of the more authentic Italian restaurants in London the main fish/meat courses, while usually really great, aren't exactly anything you don't get in other cuisines.
Indian food > British Indian food > US Indian food >>>>>>> French Indian food. By contrast I don't think there such a variance in the quality of Italian food outside Italy.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
I'm going to vote Indian here but the playing field is considerably levelled here when you factor in all the awesome Italian desserts. Indian desserts are basically just a load of different uses for condensed milk.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah not a fan of indian desserts beyond rasmalai. indian sweets are an abomination.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
Kulfi is great but Italy invented ice-cream so that's an automatic point in its favour.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
I don't understand gelato, can somebody explain gelato to me
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
- tastes good
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
every time I've thought, I would rather be eating ice cream
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
overall indian much tastier to me but yeah dessert is a total victory for italy. what does one eat for breakfast in india???
― buzza, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
cheerios
― 2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
or w/e you want to call early morning meal/snack
― buzza, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
aloo parathaharissaan omeletcheerios
― horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
Masala Dosa. Breakfast of Kings.
― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
paratha is a perfect food all by itself
gonna open up an indian breakfast shop called harissa dalloway
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
Had breakfast at an Indian wedding (in the uk), was sooo good. It was... curried stuff, y'know? Thank you, my incredible memory.
― ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Breakfasts I had in India basically revolved around eggs, bread and fruit. Nothing to write home about.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
I'm the total opposite, I realized recently that 'regular ice cream' is basically my least favorite types of frozen dairy dessert...prefer gelato, frozen yogurt, sherbert, custard
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
least favorite type
another day another poll
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
Haggis pakora vs pizza crunch.
― calumerio, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
in the most one-note, reductionist, misguided, ignorant reading of this poll: curry w/ rice >>>>>>>>>>> pasta w/ tomato sauce.
― ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
Because of this thread I am totally sauteeing some garlic in butter and dumping in a can of tomatoes. Thank you, all.
― WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
^ occams razor
― 2191: celebrate the m bisontennial (m bison), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
i am eating a tuna sandwich and its the first thing ive gotten to eat since about 8 am because i didnt get a lunch break and i kind of hate this poll and anyone who has the option to eat either of these cuisines right now (or really anything better than a soggy tuna sandwich at this moment in time). (though in the future whrn im hungry or trying to lose weight i might just look up old loujag posts about food and creaming.)
also : indian.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
Well, your first mistake was going to Jamie's Italian.
People cooking Indian from scratch will do well to remember that less is more...
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
our dinner at sotto was:
grilled bread with olive oilkale/ricotta frittatatomato-braised octopus with chickpeas (flavored with preserved lemon)margherita pizza (with lovely char; I dipped the crust into the olive oil from the bread starter)olive oil cake with oven-roasted grapes
just putting that out there.
― I also like Indian restaurant where the Indian food is served. (get bent), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
wld probably still vote indian because i've had curries that have changed my life but i've eaten some v amazing italian food since this poll took place. pheasant ravioli, mint & asparagus risotto, arancini, the richest ragu, quail risotto (risotto w/ the proper finish & texture is the product of some rare magic)... these are my two fav cuisines
― ogmor, Monday, 16 September 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
if you're eating both, the winner is you.
― I also like Indian restaurant where the Indian food is served. (get bent), Monday, 16 September 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
Bigoli al Pomodoro della Mamma 15Tomato sauce Mamma Anna style, if you don’t like it, please, call my mom @ 091-905581 and tell her. Good luck!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 16 September 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
Haven't had much Italian food these past four years and not really missing it. As long as I can have a gluten-free pizza now and then and some limoncello, I'm good. I did miss tiramisu but it doesn't even occur to me anymore. Tiramisu just doesn't measure up to gajar halva.
― *tera, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link
Italians lol.
"He also disdains the pace of change driven by the internet. “On the web, everything is consumed quickly. Culture, on the other hand, is slowness and choice. I made my theory; it is the theory of the three risottos. Do you want to hear it?” He clears his throat. “If someone has never eaten a risotto in his life – and if they have never been to Sicily, they certainly never have eaten a good one – the first time they taste it, they can only say if they liked it or not. The second time, however, they can argue that it was better or worse than the first one. Only from the third time on can they have their own theory of risotto and, if they want, give advice on how it should be cooked. Culture, to me, is knowing things and having a choice.”"
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/jul/26/photographer-ferdinando-scianna-interview-sicily-magnum
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 10:40 (one year ago) link
if you take onion & garlic away from Italian cuisine it's game over for Italian cuisine
lol
― doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link