Lou Reed/Metallica Collabo Anticipation Thread

Salman's going to be laying down some pretty freaky sax for this project, i hear.

red haired lady kinda looks like Scarlett Johannsen but maybe my imagination is just trying to cram as many famous randoms into that photo as possible

Bald guy at the back looks like my dad, but he died in 1993 so I guess it's not.

laugh if you want, but I bet Pee Wee does pant-slap better than anyone

Salman Rushdie on Twitter: "Lou Reed, Laurie Anderson. Pee-Wee Herman, Timothy Greenfield Sanders, Hal Willner and me." Lady doesn't even get a mention!

IT'S ON NOW:

Darren Aronofsky will direct a music video from the new Metallica and Lou Reed album, "Lulu."

The Oscar-nominated director of "Black Swan" and "The Wrestler" will produce a video for the track, "Iced Honey." Aronofsky brings his cameraman, Matthew Libatique, to the project as director of photography. The clip will be shot in the San Francisco Bay area and will be available for viewing later this month.

Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich said Thursday that working with Reed and Aronofsky is "living the dream."

And the avant-garde Reed said he hopes the video can be "his Black Swan."

Quick, we need to do the video to either of our "Iced Honey" tracks first.

who is Lou Reed's White Swan

"Waiting For The Portman"

if this video features Reed in a tutu stabbing Lars with mirror shards, this will have all been worth it

Quick, we need to do the video to either of our "Iced Honey" tracks first.

very tempted

goddamn i hope this never ends!

xpost -- I encourage you in this temptation.

LIVING THE DREAM

Actually gr8080 should do the video over there in Hawaii.

…and upload it to his YouT – oh, man. It's probably too soon, right?

I don't believe in Nico
I don't believe in Delmore
I don't believe in Andy

I just believe in Lou
Lulu and Lou
And that's a wonderful two

I was the Rock and Roll Animal
But now I'm something new
I was the Coney Island Baby
But now I'm just Lou

And so, my metal blood brothers
We'll just have to carry on
LIVING THE DREAM

Finally heard the whole thing and yeah, I like parts of this. It gets much better as it goes along, I think lopping off the first two tracks would have helped immensely.

scene of Lars making out with himself
scene of Lars making out with himself
scene of Lars making out with himself
scene of Lars making out with himself
scene of Lars making out with himself
scene of Lars making out with himself

with Vincent Cassel as himself

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/Roaratorio/a0a354df-f841-4f17-ad9d-38a32364b77e.jpg

After the wild anticipation ride of "omg this is gonna be AWESOME / lol wait no this is gonna be horrible / but WAIT! COULD BE AWESOME! / no, probably shite / ILX Lulu is teh best ever / Hmm, is this gonna be grebt?" I have to conclude that this album is in fact a shiny bonkers piece of shite. It just does not work and the "music" is terrible.

The ILX version beats it by miles and miles. I wish Lou was on ILX and had participated in our pre-cover project. But even without him, it is wayyy better than the actual Lulu.

this isn't all that good but it's not the sonic abortion people really want it to be. i liked some parts of it, though i doubt i'd want to listen to it again.

Bateau trolling? whole "piece of shite" thing is funny, sure, but it doesn't make sense to dismiss tracks like brandenburg gate, the view, iced honey, junior dad. like blue mask much? if no maybe just not fan of later reed ye.

Except I think "Brandenburg Gate" and "The View" are the two worst tracks on here.

@Niels, I was coming on a bit strong but I do think, as an album, a project, it's just really, really bad. Sure, I think 'Junior Dad' is quite all right, but I realised it's because it's the least Metallica/Lou Reed thing on here, if that makes sense. This album just does not work for me. At all.

I do like most of Reed's solo work, I'd stan for more of his later work than others probably, but Loutallica is just a horrible combination for me. At leats how they did it this time around. They're on separate tracks, it's like Lou's contribution is tacked onto some dire Metallica outtakes.

It is strange how disconnected the music and vocals are from each other, what with them boasting of recording all tracks live in the same room. You can even hear Lou's vocals get louder, like he's trying to yell over the music in his headphones and still, it comes across like an hour-long porno version of "The Gift".

And seriously, if you told me a year ago that Lou Reed and Metallica would make an entire record of Hüsker Dü's "How To Skin a Cat", I would have been thrilled.

some dire Metallica outtakes

But do or did you ever like Metallica? My disappointment with Lulu is mostly that Metallica seemed so happy with the opportunity to do something else but they still ended up sounding as the thrash metal band they are. In and by itself the tunes they came up with are really not that bad; they're just nothing special.

4 out of 5 stars on this months Uncut

But do or did you ever like Metallica? My disappointment with Lulu is mostly that Metallica seemed so happy with the opportunity to do something else but they still ended up sounding as the thrash metal band they are. In and by itself the tunes they came up with are really not that bad; they're just nothing special.

Not particularly. I own and like the first three albums (nostalgia), but I'd live on just fine not hearing them ever again. It's what I said earlier, and what PP points out too, the music and vocals are so far apart, it sounds so disconnected. And indeed, I had hoped this collaboration would see Metallica do something different, or at least bring forth music that sounds like the sum of two parts. Now it's just two separate parts.

Where is the song called "Lulu Says" on this album? A hidden bonus track? Or is that "Liesl Says"?

@Bateau. There are definitely songs where the music and vocals are far apart, like Mistress Dread (although the vocals are obviously not off on Mistress Dread by accident). As pplains says it's still odd since it's all recorded live. I listened to Iced Honey a couple of times today (because of the Aronofsky-news) and that one really works for me :-)

I think Reeds vocals fit well with the rhythm on The View, and I still don't think the music is so different from what I'm used to with Reed-records - it's a bit harder and faster at times (not better or stronger I guess).

I never really listened to Metallica, so maybe that's why I'm not too annoyed with how they play as long as they don't "disturb" Lou (and of course I wouldn't have been without THE TABLE for the world). I like the riffs as well on Frustration, Brandenburg, View, Iced Honey.

thing is, besides junior dad (which is just the best thing on here) i think "mistress dread" is the best song precisely because of the bizarre juxtaposition of crazy bay area thrash, modern classical drone shit, and lou sounding like he's risen from the grave to curse our penises

Yeah, "Mistress Dread" is a standout for me too.

really like pumping blood too

tbh i kinda wish this album was more metal really! and more weird drone, but there's a enough of both to make it really bizarre and cool imo

was listening to "frustration" just now and man i think all of the riffs in that song are really cool

I read all this discussion thinking about our various efforts and often agree with the assessments!

So crut was fusing thrash and drone in his own way, no penis-cursing though.

^^ don't speak to soon, Ned

This album isn't nearly as bad as the reviews led me to believe. Kind of like it.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/Roaratorio/a0a354df-f841-4f17-ad9d-38a32364b77e.jpg

"fuck the haters, i gotta open up a new bank account because of all the 'lulu' sales"

btw i'm listening to The Raven for the first time

jesus, this makes LULU sound like Transformer

haw. i kind of like the raven. i'm not sure why.

the part where steve buscemi and willem defoe are bitching at each other? classic.

i feel like the ultimate way to get on cranky lou reed's good side is to tell him how much you lovvvvvvved The Raven.

I like The Raven. Unlike Loutallica, it's a big mess that kind of works.

i saw lou reed live on my 23rd birthday when he was touring in support of The Raven. i was working at a place adjacent to the venue and security just let me walk in the back

Antony Hagerty and the tai chi instructor were part of the show but i remember being dismayed that the leg-slapper guy was not.

for me, the first three metallica albums are sacred cows and always will be. nothing is going to change that, though i'll gladly admit that they've been parodying themselves for the last 15 years. nothing about their evolution is surprising on my part --with money and fame having kicked in, along with the inevitable side-effects of ageing and "mellowing out", there's really no reason to expect metallica to have the drive, energy and fundamental togetherness to assemble something worth paying serious attention to these days in the realm of metal. so i kind of objectively expected lulu to be awful in advance. and it is pretty ordinary, but nowhere near as bad as i anticipated. for starters, it IS ambitious. and the sheer audacity of the whole project lends some residual charm to even the most glaring missteps contained within.

i realise i haven't even brought up lou reed in my appraisal of lulu. my relationship with lou is a bit more complex, see. he's done whatever the fuck he wants from day one. the fact that he's still operating along these lines (and apparently even less inclined to give two fucks about critical reception given the fact that he's kind of off the "cool" radar and well and truly on his own wavelength) actually makes me doubly inclined to really zone in on what he's trying to express on this album.

4 out of 5 stars on this months Uncut

When was the last time a major 60s artist got less than 4 stars for a new album in Uncut

Lou and Metallica on next week's Jools too.

btw this album rules.