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better not accidentally hit play while it's on your computer then i guess? otherwise you're locked into 1) only watching it on your computer and 2) watching the whole thing within the next 24 hours?

i've seen on other fora a pretty convincing argument that 24 hours is the exact time window to guarantee frustration, i.e. get home from work , fire up apple tv, start watching something that you have to interrupt for whatever reason, think you'll get back to it tomorrow, and realise that it expires at 7pm rather than midnight. even an extra hour would make a difference.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you can still transfer it to another device within the 24 hours, it will just time out on that device when the 24hrs is up.

OTM about 24hrs being frustrating.

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i have a question about time capsule and wifi in general...is all that fast enough? How much longer does it take to back up 1TB over wifi then it would firewire?

dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

They say 802.11n is 160 Mbps or faster, not used it so don't know what the real world speed is, firewire is 400Mbps or 800Mbps theoretical and a lot of drives get close to this. Even Apple say your first backup will take 'overnight', subsequent backups are changes only so will be quicker.

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

thanks tracer, I'll look into those

czn, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post

can you indefinitely postpone expiry of a rental by transferring and re-transferring between devices then?

czn, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

no

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/the-27-hour-day/

caek, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Ed if you transfer the movie to your iPod and then don't resync, i still don't see how the iPod will "know" if you've watched it on your HDTV

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

you can't watch it on the tv if it's on the iPod, it can only be watched in one place at a time

stet, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it goes or gets locked on the ATV/Mac when you load it onto the iPod.

xpost

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

ok duh i think you guys already said that already and i just misread it

it's not like i'll be using this much.. i don't think. i never use the itunes music store. of course i once said the same thing about email.

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Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Oops, from tuaw.com:

We got an interesting tip from "Jack", who noted that you could affect the time remaining on an iTunes movie rental by altering your system time. I gave it a shot to be sure. It's true, if you're willing to offset the date on your computer until you finally have time to watch that movie, you can get past the 30-day time limit.

It was also noted that if you fast-forward your calendar to the due date of a rental, iTunes will remove the movie from the library but apparently not from your drive. That seems odd to me, but that's the way it works, at least if you switch the date up yourself. And sure, you could get a little creative with a DVR and some streaming output, but the price isn't so bad to me that it warrants the extra effort. My movie-watching habits seem to be in line with Apple's plan: I generally watch a movie once no matter how good it is. Ultimately, it's just a matter of finding the time to do it.

czn, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

that's always fun. I set my clock back to use a demo version of Quark 7 at times, then I forget to switch it right back, all my emails go to the bottom of people's inbox and the nifty little time-tracking shareware I bought thinks I worked negative 3 months on a job. Great.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I imagine someone will make a hack for this that does some LD_PRELOAD stuff and hooks the time/date system calls in itunes

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

this rental sounds incredibly frustrating! also, it's about the same price as rental from a physical store, but only valid for one day instead of seven. i wouldn't pay more than a dollar. the new macbook sounds like a step backwards in functionality, too. fail!

Maria, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

How long before someone works out a way to strip the encryption or to intercept the video surface and write it to a file?

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

From ars technica:

"Pausing a movie on the Apple TV will be synced back to the master iTunes computer, and the saved place will be synced with the movie to a docked iPhone or iPod."

That makes it sound like you can have the same rented movie on more than one device, at the same time.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 January 2008 11:39 (sixteen years ago) link

It was possible to enable DivX on the version 1 of the apple TV firmware. If this is still the case with version 2 I would consider getting one.

Ed, Thursday, 17 January 2008 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the key bit there is synced with the movie, ie details move with it.

stet, Thursday, 17 January 2008 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

But my point is that it's not deleted from your hard drive if you transfer to your iPod. So if you don't resync, who's to know?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 January 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.manilamac.com/

Ed, Thursday, 17 January 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

But my point is that it's not deleted from your hard drive if you transfer to your iPod.
I don't think that's true. Yr clip just means that when you pause it on the AppleTV, it records the time. If you then move it to the iPod, deleting it from the drive, it will remember the pause time.

stet, Thursday, 17 January 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh I see - and since there's no officially supported way of getting stuff back from an iPod onto a computer, that's all she wrote

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 January 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, it seems like you can move the files about manually OK, but iTunes is keeping track of whether they're playable separately: if you move your date way into the future, the files actually stay on disk, but iTunes removes them from your playlist, and they won't open.

stet, Thursday, 17 January 2008 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

bizahh

if i get this it'll be 99% for divx stuff anyway; it shouldn't be too hard to set up a totally automated system with rss feeds, a torrent client, and a few folder actions

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 January 2008 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

that 24 hour thing can be circumvented pretty simply

zappi, Thursday, 17 January 2008 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Apply the design philosophy of the MacBook Air to the Nintendo DS Lite and you have a winner!!

czn, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Just traded 1/2 my savings for Mac Pro + 30" display + Logic. So psyched!

libcrypt, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

anybody who buys a movie via this appletv/itunes system is eating shit and liking it. BOYCOTT

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 January 2008 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

TRY JUST A LITTLE HARDER, STEVE

El Tomboto, Sunday, 20 January 2008 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I have never bought anything from iTMS. I like the packaging of a disc and having a full-quality archival copy around.

libcrypt, Sunday, 20 January 2008 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

welcome to yesterday

DG, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, I wasn't working yesterday, CHOAD.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

lolz

DG, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Shoulda had more to offer last week, Steve:

Apple shares dropped $20.09, or 12.9%, to $135.55. The computer giant disappointed investors by projecting weaker-than-expected second-quarter earnings.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

should I keep adding ram or just get a real job, save up and buy a new Mac Pro?

I have the first generation G5 power mac, 1.8Ghz and have 3 gigs of ram. I do lots of photoshop and audio stuff. Things have seemed a bit sluggish lately and for 120 bucks I can add another 2 gigs of RAM. Will that really make a huge difference, or should I save my money for eventually getting a machine with a faster/newer processor?

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Does that machine even support more than 4 gigs of RAM? I say save for a new machine dude. You need faster busses/processors.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I agree with Jon.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

You'll have to buy/acquire updated Intel versions of Photoshop and your audio stuff, too, of course, as Rosetta is kind of doggish.

Alba, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

This machine supports up to 8 gigs.

But yeah, I figured it would only help out a little at this point. Going from 1 to 3 gigs a year ago was great, but now with CS3 it hurts, probably since I use super fast intel's with many processors and much ram when at work.

I just can't believe how spoiled we were. I remember when I'd routinely wait 20 minutes for an image to open in photoshop, or sit there as a Quark file took that long to print something.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, right, you already have CS3. I was forgetting it was Universal.

Alba, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Dan, you should consider doing a clean reinstall if you haven't done one for a while.

jed_, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link

It hasn't been that long. Fact is, it's not that sluggish, just that CS3 is noticeably a bit more so then CS2 was.

dan selzer, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the first generation G5 power mac, 1.8Ghz and have 3 gigs of ram. I do lots of photoshop and audio stuff. Things have seemed a bit sluggish lately and for 120 bucks I can add another 2 gigs of RAM. Will that really make a huge difference, or should I save my money for eventually getting a machine with a faster/newer processor?

I was in almost precisely this situation last week: Identical Mac, similar use. The tipping point in my decision was whether I could run Logic Studio maximally well. Result: I now have a spanky fresh Mac Pro with 4x3.0GHz cores + 5G RAM sitting under my desk.

libcrypt, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

This is the one saving grace of having a shitty old-ass computer at work -- it makes my Powerbook G4 seem snappy.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh. I bought Performer not to long ago and haven't fully tested it out, but it seems to be fine so long as I don't crazy with the effects and plugins. I'm in no place to buy a new computer as I'm rather broke and don't have a fulltime job (my choice), so this will have to do for a little while longer.

dan selzer, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I may sell my old Mac, if anyone wants to make an offer. 2x1.8GHz G5, 3G RAM, bluetooth and wireless. It'd be nice to sell one of its displays with it, a 23" original Apple Cinema Display (not brushed metal). Both are in perfect condition and were purchased new.

libcrypt, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Apple Inc aid on Tuesday it has introduced models of its popular iPod touch handheld computer and iPhone with double the memory available in previous versions.
Apple, which previously said it had sold more than 4 million iPhones since its introduction last June, says the iPhone will now also sell with 16 gigabytes of memory.
The iPod touch, a touch-screen device that plays music and videos and can surf the Web, adds a 32 gigabyte model. Both both devices will sell for $499, Apple said.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link


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