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and some sadness for stuff passing that has not passed or was not what he claims it was before it passed

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:26 (twelve years ago) link

is john terry 'real england' dyou suppose

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

i infer from the book's post-colonage that the guy is a big douche.

― Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:24 (1 minute ago)

h but f, nv, h but f

basically i was looking at the squad list for peterbrough town and noticed ryan tunnicliffe and lee frecklington and thought maybe those names were shibboleths that uttered in a certain way might usher you into the innermost real england

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01185/arts-graphics-2008_1185572a.jpg

the city hobgoblin as a good place to start! (of course he said british not english, right, re the wrong detail)

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

"... heir to an immense fortune, gifted by nature with a mind susceptible of noble cultivation, and a body endowed with admirable physical powers with the wretched drunkard who died in a gaol at the age of thirty-eight, a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot... " <-- i am this very second ensconced in the village that surnamed this regency rake, tho he mainly lived on the other side of shrewsbury

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

nigel farage isn't real btw, he speaks for only his own constituency, which is seldom more than symbolic

is there a real england that is incapable of any sort of assimilation into colonned literature? a planar england that resists signification or commodification by interlopers from other englands

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

south dublin iirc

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

leatherhead is a promotory over a large and brackish inland sea that is never spoken of

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

beneath the leylines, the true underground

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

"Winter, 1981: the headless, skinned bodies of two bears are found by the River Lea."

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

real england is all mates and and blood sausage and big bottomed birds reading thew newsie-wewsies

max, Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

nah it's hedgerows and birds and complete lack of public services

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

Oh it's all about the public services nowadays; a bus to take you into town so you can spend all night trawling the happy hour bars, a streetcleaner to mop up your vomit from the pavement, a policeman to give you a place to spend the night. No-one needed public services when an evening's entertainment consisted of watching the sun set over a russet autumnal hedgerow, lulled into a reverie by the carefree birdsong.

ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.photohistory-sussex.co.uk/UckFrisbyPiltdown03.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Searching for the Putdown Man"

ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

is there a real england that is incapable of any sort of assimilation into colonned literature? a planar england that resists signification or commodification by interlopers from other englands

Interesting question which I wish I could answer.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know if I would like that England even.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

is there a culture that can't be commodified? and i have to be v. v. careful not to paint my cultures, or the cultures i've drifted along the fringes of, as the only real England. the problem is that the word is usually only spoken out loud by a certain kind of cultural capitalist, whose vision of it is just as tangential as mine. bullshit about fair play and honest toil and love of the land that i'd counter with a nation of sneak thiefs, factionalists and urban wastrels. the contestedness is always part of the Reality of the nation, any nation really.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

for every sleepy Sunday C of E-attending agnostic Tory there's an apocalypse-welcoming hair-splitting anabaptist

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Everywhere north of Enfield is basically a wasteland isn't it? Brrrr... Nothing there. Just a man collecting lumps of mud and putting them into a cloth bag.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but the determination of that which is essential need not be a question of mere majorities

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

everybody shd read The Uses of Literacy to see how you can constructively get this wrong in a way that doesn't just mourn real heritage centres. obv Williams and E.P. Thompson and Stuart Hall too

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

the determination of that which is essential need not be a question of mere majorities

quite so, how about the British Isles then as a dumping ground/refugee camp/Wild West for Europe and parts south-east, over millenia, fuelling endless negotiation and conflict over territory, and that is the quicksand underneath Real England that we think of as bedrock?

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

look mate there's no need to get fucking personal, alright

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

btw if i was gonna put forward one Real England it wd be old photographs of works sports teams or outings or other ceremonial jollies

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

it would be the commie permawheezing mustachioed drunk one in tinker tailor, tho no doubt they'd have you b'leev it's smiley or haydon

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

wait haydon was the commie?

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

SPOILERS

nah think he was the aesthete on a protest against the yanks more than anything else, wasn't the dude ciaran hinds played proper lefty in stated methods tho

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

the sparking point of Real England is where the plummy port-swilling foxhunter runs up against the chippy millenarian work-dodger and we drink each others' health and promise ourselves deep down that one day our kind will crush theirs

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

the phoenicians sailed up round to albion to trade tin for spice before the romans had even got out of bed, and if they weren't trading with aboriginal pre-celt and pre-pict inhabitants, then it was certainly aboriginal+1: an island of proto-druid shopkeepers since time immaterial

stonehenge is actually a kind of cashpoint machine

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

xp

oh, Roy Bland. yeah Bland is the angry Puritan I've been talking about, defending his country so's his people can crush the effete Squire class one day

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

but mark, who's to say the aborigines hadn't hopped off the boat from Boulogne just ahead of the celts themselves and so on and so forth??

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

irish close to turks dna-wise iirc

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

i think that's exactly what mark is saying, tbf

blind pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Of all the Tribe of Tegumai
Who cut that figure, none remain
On Merrow Down the cuckoos cry
The silence and the sun remain

xp he's called smiley, he has to be of outlander extraction

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

^ I wasn't at that FAP

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

clun forest all-mercian jug band champions, tractor runs on wattle and daub

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

never get away with haircuts like that up in the Danelaw

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

post pictures of men who look like offa's dyke

mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

for every sleepy Sunday C of E-attending agnostic Tory there's an apocalypse-welcoming hair-splitting anabaptist

― Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:41 (58 minutes ago)

there is definitely a book to be written about those south-midlands dissenter sects, maybe in a sort of gently sardonic louis theroux tone, 'britain's very own wild east and its fire and brimstone pastors '

so a good effort, but not really real

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

real english dialectic demands picture of McGoohan dressed as hunt sab.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Thursday, 3 November 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

there is only one named wind in england

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Friday, 4 November 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

This suggests a few more. I sincerely hope that "custard winds" isn't made up.
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/British-Weather-Terms.htm

Stevie T, Friday, 4 November 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/11/8/1320750745209/Members-of-the-public-wai-004.jpg

Sir Jimmy Savile's coffin goes on display - Members of the public wait to pay their respects

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

haha when i posted MES's mugg up-thread i genuinely didn't know his new LP was called "Ersatz GB"

mark s, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

nah i was deliberately misquoting "The Classical" and i haven't heard a new Fall album in most of a decade tbh

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

it has probably always been his topic, of course

mark s, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

Hans was a good boy, plus I was definitely a kid that pestered dogs and had been bitten before. He did not have to go live on a farm for my sake.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 12:38 (two months ago) link

This morning I was waiting for a connecting bus in the centre of Cambridge, it was about 10 minutes late, and the queue was now snaking past the other bus stops. A group of five men started a new queue next to ours, so I was stressing a bit about that when the bus finally arrived. Somewhere behind me I heard a Spanish woman telling off two teenage boys for dropping litter, their response was "It's too early for this shit" then "why don't you go back where you come from?" - wish I had intervened but was distracted by the fact that the woman in front of me had just let the five men go in front of her without a word. As I got on the bus the teenagers were discussing whether "Why don't you go back where you come from?" was racist (their conclusion was "no" and "it's too early for this shit") then the packed bus was held up for a further five minutes behind a bin lorry, and as I stood there stressing about missing my train I thought "yes, this is the real England experience, just need some miserable pissy rain to seal the deal" so thanks ILX.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 09:24 (two months ago) link

It's been a landmark in Weston-super-Mare since 1935 🌸
But the group looking after the floral clock say they needed to make it easier to look after.

This is their plan ➡️ https://t.co/2OQO2AA8wb pic.twitter.com/5JmD5333g5

— BBC West (@BBCBristol) February 8, 2024

koogs, Friday, 9 February 2024 12:39 (two months ago) link

hahaha oh my god

also just reading your post now CaAL :( ❤️

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 February 2024 12:43 (two months ago) link

actually, i'm not sure how true that is. acticle says 'plan' but the picture is in past tense and then you look and the clock is different. and then you look harder and the *houses* are different. so it's obv not the same place.

koogs, Friday, 9 February 2024 13:25 (two months ago) link

oh, the old pic is 1935 and it IS the same place

koogs, Friday, 9 February 2024 13:27 (two months ago) link

KEN likes it anyway

koogs, Friday, 9 February 2024 13:27 (two months ago) link

there are few bus stops that really sum up that feeling of faded dystopic england than north greenwich’s “Millennium Leisure Park East” unless you’re talking about the next stop along, “Millennium Leisure Park West”

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 February 2024 10:33 (two months ago) link

followed two stops later by excellent pomo contradiction Millennium Village Oval Square. no I didn't need to look that up

imago, Monday, 12 February 2024 10:44 (two months ago) link

Real England thread: xl bullies are child eating monsters
Dogs thread: xl bullies wouldn’t hurt a fly!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 18:45 (two months ago) link

They are also smaller dog-eating monsters.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:04 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgQTymQSYQY

Interview with Mark Molesley of Gosport Borough

Tow Law City (cherry blossom), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link

This happened in Glasgow but still: 'Angry families turned up to find me dressed as Willy Wonka'

The only thing that's not Real England about this is that the organisers of the event apologised and refunded everyone's money.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link

more here:
fyre festival is going well

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:52 (one month ago) link

Also, Glasgow's not in England

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:52 (one month ago) link

More and more are saying this

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:48 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

'cyberflashing' lol.. dude totally looks like a cyberflasher

Court jails first person convicted of cyberflashing in England

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/19/court-jails-first-person-convicted-of-cyber-flashing-in-england

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:30 (four weeks ago) link

Becky for PM.

Hi Backy. Thanks for highlighting this, we will find the officer responsible and make sure that they are disciplined

— Sandford Police (@Sandford_Police) April 1, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 April 2024 20:11 (two weeks ago) link

April Fool, and highly English

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 April 2024 20:13 (two weeks ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKpEc7YWAAAcREG?format=jpg&name=small

can always count on the local community centre for some top class signcraft

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 April 2024 12:18 (one week ago) link

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graphic design is my passion

mark s, Monday, 8 April 2024 12:26 (one week ago) link

It's like having an eye test

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 April 2024 12:30 (one week ago) link

Those flags look like teeth

if i just keep writing a plot will emerge by itself (Matt #2), Monday, 8 April 2024 12:37 (one week ago) link

one thing I've learned is that the ppl that put posters up for the line-dancing and martial arts have much better grammar and visual flair!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 April 2024 12:42 (one week ago) link

is tombola (a) a mobile phone service for the deceased, (b) bribery of the clergy to secure a more desirable plot, or (c) a product for removing those stubborn coffin juice stains?

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 8 April 2024 12:52 (one week ago) link

I can't remember if this thread covered the Woolaston Mystery Mime Man back in 2019

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/25/mystery-mime-artist-vanishes-fete-goers-cash-asking-pay-guess/

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/format:webp/0*tsHeNEee-T-AjT8e

A self-styled "Mystery Man" who asked village fete-goers to donate money to guess his identity literally turned out to be a mystery when he vanished after pocketing their cash.

Revellers at Woolaston Carnival in the Forest of Dean assumed the individual was a local resident when he wandered around the fete dressed in a full body morph suit communicating only in mime.

Carnival co-ordinator Andy Morgan Watts who led the parade in his vintage car dressed as a ringmaster, said: "He just appeared.

"Everybody was applauding him because it seemed such a clever way of raising money,"But when he disappeared it left a bad taste because people thought they had been giving money to charity.

soref, Monday, 8 April 2024 13:03 (one week ago) link

Does anyone know about this 'Auditing' thing on YouTube (and probably elsewhere, no doubt) YT has been presenting these clips and I watched a couple but the general conceit is baffling to me.

Blokes wandering around dreary industrial estates, filming and with the seemingly sole intention of winding up the security firms, who they condescend to and occasionally have silly shoving matches, just so they can pointlessly film or fly a drone over, a completely nondescript factory or warehouse building, am I missing something?

Maresn3st, Monday, 8 April 2024 13:04 (one week ago) link

I don't mean to use ILX as Google, but I bravely clicked on a Daily Mail article and found that it's an American trend that has found its way over here and while under the banner of 'protecting public photography and drone filming rights' it's just some excuse to boringly needle security firms and the police for YT revenue by dull pricks.

Maresn3st, Monday, 8 April 2024 13:18 (one week ago) link

seems like just another flavour of the attention economy, couple of degrees from freemen, couple of degrees from paedo hunters

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 April 2024 13:31 (one week ago) link

One of these auditors recently came to one of our offices (not mine thankfully) to start a fight and the video i saw on Tiktok of them trying to batter a security guard is the most embarassing thing I've ever seen

boxedjoy, Monday, 8 April 2024 17:22 (one week ago) link

They need to try it at a military base or airport, might even be tempted to watch the resulting video.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 8 April 2024 18:19 (one week ago) link

the US version of this seems to be about 1st + 2nd amendment rights knuckleheads pushing white privilege to the limits by wandering about with guns in public + trying their best to provoke police interventions so they can loudly challenge them on their knowledge of constitutional rights while filming it. I don't what the hell it is doing over here!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:00 (one week ago) link

US law applies everywhere don’t ya know. During the Ottawa truckers thing there were some people asserting their “1st Amendment Rights”.

I'd guess the UK version is anti-vaxx types from Hove who got radicalised during lockdown and are now looking for that buzz again

if i just keep writing a plot will emerge by itself (Matt #2), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:32 (one week ago) link

Racegoers fight each other as they scuffle on the second day of the Grand National Festival horse race meeting at Aintree Racecourse in Liverpool, north-west England (2024)#GrandNational pic.twitter.com/5F5wfCFexJ

— Great British Getty Images (@shitbritishpics) April 13, 2024

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 April 2024 18:37 (five days ago) link

the video reveals it to be just a bit of playground shoving and a few soft taps exchanged and is over in seconds, the stills make it look more dramatic. I've harder hits from my son when he was 8 years old!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 April 2024 18:47 (five days ago) link

*had*

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 13 April 2024 18:47 (five days ago) link

real scotland

This city ain’t appreciated enough pic.twitter.com/lzQOmQZOSI

— J67 (@Joyce6788_) April 12, 2024

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Saturday, 13 April 2024 19:10 (five days ago) link


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