Boxcars are POLLing out of...REM's "Chronic Town"

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"80's Baby" (Z S), Thursday, 1 January 2009 03:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Holy shit that Carnival You Tube clip.

Did I mention I love this board?

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Was introduced to Chronic Town by a friend who attended Davidson College (just outside of Charlotte, NC). REM played frat parties up there frequently in the early years. After hearing the record I was insanely jealous. Great to see the YouTube clip from the era... Stipe in glasses, though, yikes.

that's not my post, Thursday, 1 January 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

What's weird is, as demonstrated on earlier polls I'm every inch a snotty "I prefer their earlier work" R.E.M. fan but for whatever reason I find Chronic Town less interesting than all the IRS albums that followed -- I mean, at the time (or rather, in 1988 when I first heard this) it would have been "Carnival," easy, but now I think the material of that song -- boxcars, weeping willows, torn posters -- are TOO directly referential to the kind of small-town mysticism they were trying to convey. Surely "Driver 8" does it much better. I voted "1,000,000" for the opening chords.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 2 January 2009 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting, except there's no "weeping willow" in the song. it's a "reaping wheel," an image that would have done "driver 8" proud. speaking definitively of early stipe lyrics is a fool's game sometimes cuz of all the murmuring, but not in this case. there's only nine syllables in that line, not ten

kamerad, Friday, 2 January 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the point is still interesting though. I don't read it as a conscious milking of Southern Gothic mystique but I can understand how that would come across, in comparison to the more organized poetry of the following records, where the imagery is in clearer service of emotions, moods, characters, etc. "Chronic Town" is all scene-painting, which is fine by me given the amount of energy the band brings to the table.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 2 January 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i picked 1000000. man i loved this ep when it dropped. havent heard any of it for at least 15 years tho. i always thought it was "cages under cage" as in the boxcars were loaded up with circus animals.

Booker van Permalink (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 January 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Wolves, Lower just for the title.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 2 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

whenever i think of them i see them as the murmur era poster in my bedroom. they are standing in front of a red loading dock door, in dissolve/double exposure.

Booker van Permalink (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I also hear "Cages under cage," but hadn't made the leap to circus animals, which I quite like. Nice!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 2 January 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh god I want to die:

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 3 January 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoops wrong one! oops! Wait...
&

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 3 January 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

wow! that was impressive.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 3 January 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Stipey been drinkin'!

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Saturday, 3 January 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Suspicion Yourself, Suspicion yourself,
don't get caught.

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:09 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG I had no memory of that Livewire show on Nickelodeon until just moments ago. Also, killer performance.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:15 (fifteen years ago) link

chronic town, poster torn, weeping wheel

secret, stigma, reaping wheel

carnival of sorts

chronic town, poster torn, reaping wheel

box cars

are pulling

OUT OF TOWN

Gentlemen, don't get caught
cages under cage

secret
stigma
wheeping wheel
stranger to these parts
diminished
stranger
gentlemen don't get caught
cages under cage
out of town

out of town

out of town

I could live a million.

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:19 (fifteen years ago) link

not only deadlier but smarter too
smarter too

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:19 (fifteen years ago) link

We'll stumble through the yard.

Ball & chain.

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Who's the guy playing guitar in that clip who's not Buck?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 January 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember riding my bicycle home from the record store in the rain with this balanced on the handlebars i.e. I courted death AND IT WAS WORTH IT.

and
i remember my dad brought this home shortly after it came out because they had it on in the record store and he thought it sounded cool [..] later on, whenever i put on another r.e.m. album, dad would say "i don't hear anything as good as 'carnival of sorts'."

..make me realize how sad it is that I've never held physical copies / CD cases of even my very favorite albums.

Kyle Clewett (bassace), Sunday, 4 January 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Wolves, Lower I guess?? Cannot overstate what this EP does to me.

Fela Cutie (wanko ergo sum), Sunday, 4 January 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

how sad it is that I've never held physical copies / CD cases of even my very favorite albums.

Wha...?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 January 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, are you from the future or what?

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 January 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Please to click on Kim's Video link.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 January 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

It's kind of not helping.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 January 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Wolves, but man, they are all so good.

Mark, Monday, 5 January 2009 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

So is "Carnival" based on this Carnival of Souls?

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 January 2009 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Until I watched that video I was never quite aware of those crucial Bill Berry backing vocals.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 January 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Wild to see video shot at The Pier. Great Raleigh club from the early 80s.

that's not my post, Monday, 5 January 2009 05:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 12 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Decisive but fascinating. Thanks for playing, everyone! Next poll going up shortly...

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

https://www.facebook.com/chronictown/
“music venue • record store • pinball arcade • café • kava bar • vegan waffles • organic smoothies • artisan glass • stereo repair”

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 5 July 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link

Pure gold start to finish, hard to think of any track being that much better than any other

rip van wanko, Thursday, 5 July 2018 02:55 (five years ago) link

I still have my autographed copy of this EP. The band member who shares my first name wrote "sorry about the name, pal".

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 July 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link

I agree w/RVW – the idea of “ranking” these tracks is a bit of a head-scratcher: they’re a perfect set.

(Dr. M – that’s awesome; I’m guessing it was Bill...?)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 5 July 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

One of my my favorite musical moments™ is when the bassine under the verse in “Stumble” shifts by one note – subtly, but with great impact – in its final iteration (after the “Don’t need that... jazz” bridge freakout section).

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 5 July 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link

"Coffee Shop in State College, Pennsylvania"

oh HELL no, don't EVEN

Brad C., Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

I just went to look up who owns this because I lived in State College for two years where one of my only friends (miccio who used to post here) was also a huge REM fan. This turns out to be the only hookah bar I have ever been to in my life- used to be called Tall Shiva.

Yerac, Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

Watch for my vape shop themed to the first 10,000 Maniacs EP — it’s called
Secrets of the E-Cig.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

xp not hating on PSU or State College, I enjoyed my one visit, but an establishment named Chronic Town ought to be located in Chronic Town

This EP is a better representation of what their shows sounded like 1981-83 than Murmur

Brad C., Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

We need to hate on it because it's a hookah bar. And State College sucks (sorry PSU'ers).

Yerac, Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link


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