Ico / Shadow of the Colossus

controls were the biggest issue i had with both games, really cut into my enjoyment

Hey forks - next time I'm in NYC can I watch you play these games? I'll bring beers.

Totally!

i remember the controls being a little clunky outside of the fight segments, but it didn't really matter because there was no rush in wandering around the countryside. it didn't affect my enjoyment of the game, and controls/feel is usually the most important thing for me.

Forks - I have no idea when I'l next be there (it was easier to get there from Maine than Texas) but I promise I'll be in touch. Time to expand my ILX "real life" meetings past Nate, Alex in NYC, call all destroyer and Scott.

i have a big couch and multiple systems and will be happy to hang out.

When the time comes you get to pick the beverage.

In SotC I had to go into the settings and invert the horizontal/vertical camera. Helped a lot.

no the horse stuff is a bunch of nothing, there's no reason to gloss that (especially compared to red dead) but it's just an intermission really, a moment to let your heart stop racing

making you ride the horse around w/o fast travel is one of those design decisions that seem stupid for a while but becomes genius near the end.

GAMES AS ART etc.

i really enjoyed the exploration and the sense of not knowing what's over the next hill
the zelda effect if you will

watching a playthrough of this (SotC) on youtube might be even better than playing it in some ways, just to be able to appreciate the colossi without getting carpal tunnel from hanging on them.

free on ps+ this week

i got the hd version of these. playing ico first, its dope

they fall asleep if you leave them in the save chair

Picked up that HD collection recently too. Played through Shadow twice (rare for me) on PS2 and it stands in memory as one of my favorite games. Hope it holds up. Looking forward to Ico too. This is like the first thing that makes me wish I had a 3D capable TV.

Is their new one ever going to come out? The Last Guardian or w/e? Feel like it's been in development forever.

i played ico for PS2 for the first time this year and really wanted to like it because it looks/sounds amazing but the actual gameplay was such a drag. like only playing the boring parts of N64 zelda games or something.

THANK YOU

ico would be great if the combat was better or if there was just no combat at all. as it is its just repetitious and annoying

yeah that was one of the worst parts. like i get that they wanted to give you a compelling reason to not leave the princess behind but battling the demons with your stick felt as shitty as a tiger electronic version of street fighter.

finished ico and dug it, although the combat does suck

i killed the first colossus of sotc and i already kinda hate the controls

these motherfuckers sure do love bridges

Controls take some getting used to. At the time it reminded me of OG Prince of Persia. Hit jump a second before you need to jump type thing.

it was mostly the camera and aim options, im used to setting vertical axis to 'inverted' but they mislabeled it, never seen a game get that wrong before. i also didnt get that the circle was a stamina meter. game is pretty sweet though, great concept

the platforming in sotc is seriously fucking terrible

admission: i gave each monster about 10 mins of dicking around before looking up what to do

dicking around the colossus

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prob just me but the last colossus is such a ramp up in difficulty that it just seems to me like a huge 'fuck you' from team ico

It was easier for me than some others, but it's definitely the longest and most unforgiving.

I feel somewhat ashamed that I never finished this beautiful, one-of-a-kind game

I think I sort of got sick of riding around on that fucking horse

i was up all night trying to beat that final colossus, very upset
beat him the next morning after like three tries. it was like a crossword puzzle

it took me forever but a friend just played this for the first time and was disappointed at how easy the last one was.

Have we mentioned this is currently free on PS+?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLZvsSmBIs

want

if i'm being honest, though, it does look like a PS3 game. but it's probably too late at this point to optimize it for PS4

This does not look good to me but I found Ico and SOTC both pretty frustrating so maybe just not for me.

fallout 4 looks like a ps3 game

It was inevitable, if it was ever actually released at this point, that it would be released for current-gen consoles, but still: bullshit.

They could at least throw us a PS3 bone on this one, given the delays.

xp tbh I'm not that impressed by the visuals with the new Fallout either

more hyped about the stupid wrist toy

(Not to get too far off topic but) I just started playing Fallout 3 this week in light of all the F4 hype and, after spending forever playing Skyrim, the graphics have been a bit shocking. Not so hot!

I wonder if the griffin actually has much freedom of movement or if it's just programmed to progress along a line.

seems to be like ico's follower where it responds to call button

i think i have very low standards for graphics, i just don't care that much. i've been amazed since 16 bit.

i'm in for Last Guardian, hope the gameplay is compelling.

on the beth front tho i think every scrolls & every fallout game they have made has looked hideous pretty much from day 0.

re: last guardian i am LOVING the animation on the kid, so evocative

run animation feels a little sloppy on the loop but i'm assuming they're still in beta

I really really need to play through the first games but the PS2 emulator is still struggling w it.