Destroyer - Kaputt (2011)

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ive played this album for friends and they immediately love it....which is unusual.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

I want him to go full-on Robert Palmer next.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^
something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1UBS5ZL7Hs

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

He's somewhat limited without a ton of stage presence and/or charisma, no?

I'd prefer something more in line with his Gap Band cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyD_b3xSzI&feature=related

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

I like that one too.

The single version of "Hyperactive" has three fourths of Chic as his backing band.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

@Matt DC, I got it after the fact! Quick to post, slow to think

...options. (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR85bAxCX6M

Number None, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

The most interesting comment posted in response to Christgau's review.

Really, Kaputt is so soupy and indirect I don't think comparisons-sans-qua​lifiers to the songful, emotional culture of definitive 80s British music, bad or good, is anything but identifying the forest before you've really gotten a good look at the trees. First off, Roddy Frame, Paddy McAloon and "Black Man Ray" were all trying to communicate things about actual human emotions, with specifics Bejar never bothers with and emotions he has no interest in. Secondly, all three bore an adherence to short, sharp popforms on their sleeves, which allowed each to make the kind of dent in radio Bejar seems totally disinterested in. I think Bejar himself had it right when he threw out Boys and Girls in his arcane press release -- a loungey aural pillow with no pretense of humanity from a prickly alien fantasy of an aging, wearied glam-rock lothario. And citing Neil Tennant, though feyness is a virtue for both, belies the fact that Neil gets through to everybody with a heart via incisive wit and covert emotion, and Bejar's voice only really hits arch, glammy, renny weirdos. So take it then as Boys and Girls with Al Stewart singing over it, since all Al ever was was Neil's dryer, drabber antecedent.

And though the clamor toward comparisons (I saw the phrase "Kenny G meets the Style Council" -- flatteringly! -- in a typically bad one) makes up the bulk of Kaputt's published praise, that's just because sonic departure (and all Bejar's records sound a little different, which is probably where the Bowie stuff comes from since Streethawk sounds nothing like Ziggy) is the only thing really perking the interests of people who have zero no interest in going gaga over one more Dan Bejar record, and who certainly wouldn't begin to know how to differentiate this one's content from that of the last, much less articulate it. I love him myself, but not because I think he's a genius or even because Destroyer particularly compels me -- it's because his obligation toward concise popform and surface melody in the New Pornographers has yielded a kind of hard-fey model that appeals very much to a kid who grew up idolizing dapper Disney villain sidekicks, 18th century attire and the notion of a heterosexual Joel Grey, and I'm forever searching for that ideal in records whose words are never layered or clever enough to evoke Dylan and whose melodies are never as ebullient as I wish they were. But I've come to love Bejar for merely doing what he does, which is different than what everybody else does, over and over and over despite its inability to fit snugly into any facet of pop's critical model.

So since, again, most criticism I've read about Kaputt so far hinges on how it deliberately sounds like a dream memory of the 80s, and how cool/uncool that is, Christgau in his infinite wisdom is the first person I've seen to craft two lines of any aptitude about the project: "Mix in a smoove groove suitable for deflecting others' disinterest in one's historical anomie and you have intelligent lounge music for 21st-century depressives" and "this is how the pleasure principle feels to an alienated depressive resigned to engaging the world on his own perverse terms". These are the answers all those internet kids were looking for before they decided to just rave out their general observations, and the only common conclusions anybody's likely (much less supposed) to find in Kaputt.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

I think that Christgau review is pretty weak, not to mention repetitive. In one short paragraph, he twice uses the phrases: "lacks the heart and chops", "historical anomie" and "depressive". I hear lots of heart and chops, and Bejar doesn't sound very depressed on "Blue Eyes", for instance.

o. nate, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

The Dean's least attractive routine, playing armchair shrink, he did the same thing although much harsher with GBV (and their fans!).

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

GBV deserve nothing less

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

He did the same thing with Adele too: "I can feel a down-to-earth plus-size who touches women who look a lot more like her than like Beyoncé or Katy Perry" - uh, maybe people like her for other reasons than her figure?

o. nate, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

I heard these songs on the radio a lot this year and they didn't do anything for me but suddenly this very moving. if I never liked the new pornographers should I bother w/ any of the rest of his stuff?

iatee, Friday, 27 January 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

suddenly finding this*

iatee, Friday, 27 January 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, listen to 'rubies'

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 January 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

If the New Pornos sounded like Bejar's pre-Kaputt material I'd never have given this record a chance.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 January 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

Also try "Your Blues".

MarkoP, Friday, 27 January 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

What radio are you listening to that plays Destroyer a lot?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

college radio

iatee, Friday, 27 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Sigh. I wish Chicago had better college radio options.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

i listened to 'destroyers rubies' after getting into 'kaputt' and i loved it. its more like 'heaven is a truck' or 'five years' than the 80's soft rock and sophistipop feel of 'kaputt'.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 27 January 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Your Blues" is the closest thing in his catalogue to this record

Number None, Friday, 27 January 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

nyc has pretty shitty college radio actually, but we listen to the university of washington's station at work via internet

iatee, Friday, 27 January 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

nyc radio so bad it's not even funny

iatee, Friday, 27 January 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

cosign the similarities between your blues and kaputt

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Friday, 27 January 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

This was the first Bejar I got into, bought Rubies shortly after and love that just as much.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 28 January 2012 07:47 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone into this who hasn't heard the vinyl bonus track "The Laziest River" or, especially, his collaboration with Tim Hecker "Archer on the Beach" really should check it out. I love Kaputt but those two songs took things to another level for me.

AnotherDeadHero, Saturday, 28 January 2012 11:36 (twelve years ago) link

his collaboration with Tim Hecker "Archer on the Beach"

Whhhaaaat

Number None, Saturday, 28 January 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I had NO idea about that either, just googled it!

http://stereogum.com/564282/destroyer-archer-on-the-beach-feat-tim-hecker-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 28 January 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

the cover art to that and Bay of Pigs are sweet. can imagine having them up on a wall. also: kaputt.

http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2009/08/destroyer-bay_of_pigs.jpg
http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2010/11/Destroyer-Archer-On-The-Beach.jpg
http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/01/Destroyer-Kaputt.jpg

kid steel (cajunsunday), Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

His hair is unFerryesque though...

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

Has anyone heard/loved the live version of "It's Gonna Take an Airplane"--sped up and with a bassline straight out of "All Along the Watchtower"? His show was easily the best I saw in 2011.

BubbaM, Saturday, 28 January 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

Blow Monkeys.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 6 February 2012 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

saw him on the rubies tour and "it's gonna take an airplane" was the highlight of a pretty boring set

wish I had checked out a recent show cuz he's more interesting the further he strays from a standard rock band format

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

seeing Destroyer tonight at Brooklyn Masonic Temple, w/ full band and still doing the Kaputt material I think, should be good

missed them last year at Webster Hall

dmr, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

A buddy said they killed it Sat night in DC.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

sweet

dmr, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

I found this J. F*scher Washington City Paper interview with Dan interesting (although I have not read many interviews with him)

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2012/06/15/once-you-break-with-rock-music-its-hard-to-find-your-feet-again-a-chat-with-destroyers-dan-bejar/

This band that I am going on tour with is different from the one that toured last year for Kaputt, and for the first time ever, [we're] kind of consciously trying to learn a bunch of back-catalog stuff in addition to stuff from the new record. We probably know twice as many songs as any Destroyer formation has ever learned. And doing that, it’s interesting to see how the older songs knock up against the new ones. They’re a fair bit different, but I guess I see it outside of thematics. It’s really noticeable in the sense of space on the Kaputt songs, in, like, an effort to flatten out as many chord changes as possible. There’s a vocal delivery required in the older songs that seems divorced from the way I was singing on the Kaputt record.

...

I don’t know what I’m cast off into from Kaputt, but it seems to be a kind of void or something. Once you break with rock music, the kind of music I listened to for so long, it’s hard to find your feet again. [Laughs] I don’t know, I’m really enjoying playing with the group, more than I ever have, but at the same time I feel more distant from rock music, or even pop music, more than I ever have. It’s weird. Maybe Kaputt was like the kiss-off.

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, that show in dc was tremendous - great versions of "suicide demo," "bay of pigs" as the encore, etc. i dunno if i'd describe the way they perform as emotionally detached, exactly, but it isn't far off - it was kind of interesting to watch them play the older, more self-consciously clever stuff ("english music," notably) with that kind of demeanor

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I'm curious to hear what non-Kaputt stuff they'll play and how it will come off

dmr, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure he played a new song at the dc show. Third song in the set with a "be my baby" beat? Anyone recognize this?

Moreno, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

saw them a couple weeks back in portland. just an amazing show. was blown away most by "rubies" as the closer iirc.

Clay, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

is 'english music' really more 'self-consciously clever' than anything on kaputt?? what a weird notion

thomp, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

yes it is

hot knives, wind was blowin' (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

"write your english music, run free" is as self-consciously clever as good music gets

hot knives, wind was blowin' (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

european blues

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

This band that I am going on tour with is different from the one that toured last year for Kaputt,

Interesting, because the press release line, via Merge and others, is that this is the Kaputt band. Who is different?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

how was the sound at brooklyn masonic? the shows i've seen there have sounded pretty poor.

mizzell, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

i don't really understand what separates 'english music' from 'song for america'. i feel like if anything kaputt is more self-conscious. or at least more difficult to parse or reduce, which seems 'cleverer' to me.

thomp, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link


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