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nathalie, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

John, I'm with you on the Yankees- I live in Seattle, and I've had it rubbed in my face nonstop for the last few days! Previous to Seattle, I went to college in Boston, which is also another great town to be a Yankees fan in. Anyway, I've been reading ILM for a while, but I only recently posted for the first time, so I figured I should add something here. I'm 24, I work as a perl programmer, and I'll be happy if I ever learn to make as good a cup of coffee as the folks at Monorail Espresso make. Like every other suburban NJ kid my age, I got into music when grunge became huge when I was in high school.

Music I love: really good pop songs, singles where the B sides are even better than anything on the album (currently: super furry animals), exile on main street, and anything that will help me finish up a project the night before it's due

Music I don't like: albums where all the songs sound exactly the same as each other

Last CDs I bought and loved:

  1. 89/93: An Anthology, Uncle Tupelo
  2. Singles, The Smiths
  3. Jonathan David, Belle and Sebastian (the carriage clock song is my new favorite song of all time)

Last CDs I bought and didn't like:

  1. Far Places, Push Kings (whatever happened to the sweet songs that were on their first album??)
  2. Come with Us, Chemical Brothers
  3. All That You Can't Leave Behind, U2 (stuck in a moment is nice, but it got old too quickly)

lyra in seattle, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

H: I've been spreading possibly-wrong propaganda about the Addis network, then! At the Hilton I spent something like 30 minutes (and 30 birr) just to open up a hotmail account and see that there was nothing in it. After that I gave up, on the assumption that the cafes couldn't possibly be any better than the fancy-shmancy Fat-German- Businessman Hilton.

Well, next time I go back, I won't give up so easily.

nabisco%%, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hi I'm Kelly Su and I live in the US of A.. I'm not allowed to say where bc I have extremely overprotective parents I'm 15 and I love music and emo&punk are awesome I play keyboards and go highschool . I'm working on a website right now but I lost the address silly me~ thats the second time I've forgot it. I hang out in coffee/bagel shops write extremely short poetry and love photography. Some grand bands are: weezer jimmy eat world slick shoes good charlotte the faint le tigre promise ring time spent driving pedro the lion cool hand luke and I'm sick of typing now so Ta Ta much mad luv -~-**Kelly Su

Kelly Su, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

>>> extremely short poetry // is best, cos quickest to read

the pinefox, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hi. My name is Bryan, and I count beans in Winnipeg, Canada (home of the Canadian starting point of the Mexi-Canadian Overpass, if you believe what the Onion says!). I am a bit of a proggie, though I don't take it very seriously, and I suppose I'm a bit dadrock, though I don't take it very seriously either. Bye for now, and UP SCUMBAG! Sorry.

Bryan, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I see someone's got their Young Ones on tape. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

greetings lyra im in seattle too. so is brian. who else is??

Ron, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hi, I'm Colin, I'm 16 and I'm from Blackpool, England. My friend Nick Southall recommended this board to me. I enjoy having conversations about anything musical, technical or otherwise, so I thought this'd be a good place to come and do just that.

My favourite bands are Radiohead, Super Furry Animals, Beautiful South, James and The Clash. My favourite 2 records I own are Ok Computer (Radiohead), Everything Must Go (Manics) and Automatic For The People (REM). I play bass and sing in a "band" of sorts with a friend, who plays guitar, and we've been covering stuff in our respective bedrooms for a couple of years but more recently have started writing songs.

I hope to befriend you guys soon!

Colin Cooper, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hope to befriend you guys soon!
And *be-enemy* the girls?

cuba libre, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

hehehe nath

Ron, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bryan neglects to mention that he is also the president of Manitoba Corn and Metal Fest Inc. I think I may have taped those Young Ones episodes for him.

Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, and I think I need for you to tape them again someday when you quit yer ramblin'. I'm not dadrock, in spite of what you think, Sean. Why did I say that? I've pretty much given up hope that Paul Weller will produce any decent music in whatever time he has left on this earth. Right now I'm working up the courage to start a Genesis: C/D thread, I think I'll need several Fort Garry Darks first. I enjoyed a good feed of corn just yesterday (from DJ Hunnicutt), and then got a mighty helping of cheese (Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones) afterwards. Hope all the Canadian ILMers enjoyed Victoria Day.

Bryan, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jeff (if you see this): I knew exactly what you meant when I read the phrase "AM punk." Fear music, terror music, but also expansive/exploratory from an anything-goes era where anything could become a hit. I'm sure not everyone heard it as fear music, and now it probably comes across as just nicey-nicey on oldies radio; it coincided with my junior-high-school years, kids walking around acting tough and terrorizing other kids. In 1978, a young woman from my hometown went with me to Max's Kansas City and, listening to the music that was being piped-in, said "This sounds like junior high but more intense." As good a definition of punk rock as I've ever heard, although the Max's stuff was less intense than the original era. (The term "punk rock" was first used in print in 1971 by Dave Marsh in writing about a ? & the Mysterians reunion gig; you probably know that, living in Detroit. "And then I'm gonna put you, right down there. And you'll start cryin'." Gave me the creeps when I first heard it.) Not just an American phenomenon, though, since so many of those bands were copying the Yardbirds and the Stones (the Velvet Underground was just the 1000th to do this, though one of the best). And the Troggs were Brits, and the Easybeats were Australian.

Scary music, from the worst years of my life, but somehow part of the growing and thinking process.

I'll just cry.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Brad Luen, 22. Another NZer. Thought I was part-Mongol until a few weeks ago. Grew up in working-class Mangere, surrounded by minorities less fashionable than mine. Got a scholarship to the most expensive private school (UK=public school) in the country and stopped listening to hip-hop for seven years. Got to university and tried to make up for lost time. Currently doing a Masters in Statistics, which at the best of times is more rewarding than even the Pet Shop Boys. Write for Craccum magazine, where 28000 Auckland University students are regularly subjected to my four page essays on why Britney is better than Britpop. My one great idea is that since youth (say under 18) lack spokespeople who are articulate in adult forms of discourse, their culture is trivialised by society's tastemakers; which it shouldn't be, as anyone who's watched both The Fast and the Furious and A Beautiful Mind knows.

Sorry about that last sentence; imagine how much worse it would've been if I'd done an Arts degree. If anyone knows of a good forum for publishing Kross-Kultural Kriticism (w/jokes about trance fans) on this sort of stuff, please tell me. Anyway, music. If Michaelangelo Matos claims his tastes are "a mutant offspring of Robert Christgau's and Simon Reynolds's", that makes mine a mutant offspring of Robert Christgau's and Michaelangelo Matos's. Which I think makes me MOR by rockcrit standards and downright conservative around here. But I like pop, obviously. And rap-metal, but not nu-metal.

Partially connected thoughts - Greatest artist of the last millennium: Jean Renoir. Greatest artwork: The Simpsons, mostly for the second season. Greatest artwork of this millennium: Ian McEwan's Atonement, mostly for Part One. Greatest artist: Eminem (not solely on artistic ability, but largely so). In my spare time I think of ways to overhaul our crap excuse for an education system. I can understand why so many people are unhappy, but I still think they shouldn't be. I was National Universities Public Speaking champion once, but I got booed off stage the only time I did stand-up, possibly because I didn't have any jokes. I'm an activist by default, because most of my best friends are oppressed. Anyone who emails me and guesses both ethnic groups that I belong to wins a prize.

B-Rad, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

B-Rad, I hope you start a lot of threads here. I love your your one great idea, though I disagree with it, given that, since whatever month in 1964 A Hard Day's Night was released, officially articulate adults have been all over the Importance and Significance of teen pop, far more than they're into the Importance and Significance of adult pop (really, articulate geezers like me who speak in officially articulate tones of voice spend way more words on Britney and Em than on Phil Collins or Celine Dion). Trouble is, those adults are too into the adult convo about teens and pre-teens without listening enough to the teen and pre-teen convo itself. They don't listen all that well to the adult convo either, maybe because there are few good forums for that convo to take place. If there's a good Kross-Kultural forum (potentially Kinksy?), someone please tell me! The only one I can think of is ILx.

Magnum P.I. better than the Simpsons. King Lear and The Searchers possibly better than either.

Em could do it. We'll know more in a couple days.

Statistics fans: I'm the guy who invented the controversy rating.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, it's YOU, eh? *beats Frank down*

More seriously, welcome to Brad. I'll have to quibble with you regarding Eminem, though (heavens, man, the new album -- a couple of diamonds surrounded by dogshit, for a start).

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Em could do it. We'll know more in a couple days.

but frank, we know now! in fact, i've had to listen to ethan blather about it all night!

(the record is out, in case you didn't know. pre-release to beat the bootleggers.)

jess, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

ha ha ignore ned he is how do you say a bit extreme in some of his views haha

Josh, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks for your kind words, especially the extremist ones. My great idea applies more to mainstream thought than crit theory, and less to rock (a medium created for the youth audience) than movies or TV or whatever. But even though many pop writers know that youth in itself is worth celebrating, the geezers generally only study their own reactions, and I don't think they correlate sufficiently with the actual experiences the kids have. Though I might change my mind in a decade, just like I hope I will about John Ford...

Anyway, in this great country of mine, I think (I'll have to check) that I still have to wait till June 4 for the Eminem album, and I don't know if I'll have time to steal it before them. And since it's not an Osama concept album, I'm already disappointed. Still, E gets my millennium nod for a whole array of diamonds, bound together in a lattice to form a mega-meta-diamond, even if what binds them is shit.

B-Rad, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha BLATHER you loved it

ethan, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

a bit extreme in some of his views

JUST because I think "Stan" is the single most unfunniest single since "We Are the World"...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

'black humor'

Josh, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

...is not apparent.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

wasn't "we are the world" supposed to be funny?

geeta, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Depends on who you talk to.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...
this thread has been silent too long...

Ron, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

been posting on ILM for abt a year (or more) but nevah introduced myself.

Name is Julio. I am 22 years old and I live in London, UK (as I write I am in Toronto though). I am currently doing a PhD in chemistry at University College, London.

I was Born in Brazil but I moved to England 10 years ago. Watching Ian Curtis on the telly did stir up an initial interest in music. Started buying rock/indie records but then watched a captain beefheart doc on the telly that led me to him. This completely changed my musical inetrests and led me to more marginalised musical forms such as free-improvisation and also some free-jazz. From the classical standpoint I seem to like things that are 'anti-classical' like morton feldman and Xenakis' electronic pieces but have maintained an interest in the walking corpse that is 'popular music'.

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

my name is chris browning, 26, and i'm currently holed up in hebden bridge with the flower people looking for gainful employment with my film studies MA. currently resorting to my original vocation as a librarian. musically my obsessions are nick drake and the whole gamut of sixties folk rock to more trad. folk people like the watersons and the like, XTC, robyn hitchcock, the clean and all other NZ bands robert scott dabbles his hands in, stackridge, syd barrett, esquivel etc etc. my first and most abiding love is old jazz, especially 1920's dance band people like henry hall and al bowlly. could listen to that for hours. tend towards more introspective music as am an introspective kind of person. tend to be much more willing to talk film that talk music, but like to see what's being discussed hereabouts....

commonswings, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Umm, OK then.

William Swygart, 18 years old, born Croydon, South London, currently studying English Lit. & French at Birmingham Uni. Also student journo type wanker. Interest in music triggered by seeing Pulp play Glastonbury (on telly) in 1995. At least I think it was 1995. Any case. Quite into me indie-pop and such and such, favourite song of all time would be Lazy Line Painter Jane, waiting for the real rain to come and wash Starsailor off our streets (and Haven if it's got the time)... Oh, and I look like I should be emo. It isn't intentional. Really it isn't.

Mr Swygart, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I am the devil, and I come to do the devil's work."

Shaky Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dont Touch This is my favourite EVER song!

nathalie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i mean MC Hammer song EVER. God, I know I should add the name of the performer. Sorry!

nathalie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The pants did it.

nathalie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha nath, you belgian waffle it's "CANT touch this"!

jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I never went to his concerts because I know I would want to prove him wrong!

nathalie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i heard that everywhere he went it was 'hammer, go hammer! mc hammer! go hammer!'

Ron, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am Alex, 21, live in Doncaster, South Yorkshire, planning to EITHER: take uni place in Greenwich this September, OR: go and live somewhere else and do something else instead (Manchester or somewhere, i dunno).

Obtained 'Kylie' by Kylie Minogue on cassette at age of 7 (1988), have not looked back since. Favourite album ever would be 'Different Class'. Will say no more, as will feel obliged to namecheck about 200 bands'n'artists, and this would be bit gratuitous.

Alex Linsdell, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did I ever say? I like Slayer.

jel --, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Obtained 'Kylie' by Kylie Minogue on cassette at age of 7 (1988), have not looked back since.
That has been a wise decision, my friend. I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either either either. E e e e either.

Jel, you have now! SLAYAH ROOLZ!

nathalie, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hi all. I'm Matt Riedl. 43 years old. Veteran of various punk and pop bands (Braille Party being the one that came closest to popularity, a couple LPs in the 80s.)

Now doing cut-and-paste/irritainment music like everyone else. I go by DJ Veal, until I'm sure that lame Canadian band by the name of Veal is dead-and-gone.

For the record, I like hearing everything once; after that I'm a lot more discerning! Also for the record, I LIKE hip-hop. And my personal goal is never to get stuck, temporally, in any music (as in, let's say, my wife: stopped listening to new music in the 70s so only music up to the 70s is of any worth)(perhaps I'm being a little harsh on her). I think we, now as always, live in the times of the best music ever.

Matt Riedl (veal), Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm Johanna. I'm in my early thirties, female, live in Iceland. I'm not particularly into any specific kind of music. My CD and vinyl collection spans everything from Gregorian chants and classical music through jazz, country, pop, techno, rock and heavy metal - you name a music genre and chances are I've got an example of it. I especially like novelty music, like the kind played by Dr. Demento.

Johanna, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Johanna- i saw the movie 101 reyavik (can't spell the name). Anyway, what struck me was that all the blonde women were really lovely looking. More so than in britain, that's for sure. That's the impression i got. is that true or is it just a movie in the end?

Julio Desouza, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

you name a music genre and chances are I've got an example of it.
How's about Zart Core?

nathalie, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am a 20 yr old female from californa. My favorite band is the Deftones. and.....ummmmm......thats all i have to say about myself.

Celeste, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hello and welcome. :-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

In reference to myself, Josh describes me in the following way:

"I hope you feel pretty clever for being a dick as ambiguously as you have. What's your fucking problem, anyway? As far as I know no one here comes to post on the lameass boards you hang out on to pick arguments with people they know will disagree with their snotty attitudes. What exactly threatens you about people who appreciate music ironically, anyway? Afraid people will think you do too, and think you're a stupid hipster doofus? What the hell threatens you about people who want to talk about music, and analyze it, and think? If you really wanted to do that you could start a discussion that wasn't as provocative, or just look through our archives, we talk about this all the time. If you can't take it then just go back to where you feel safe and leave us the fuck alone. "

Jack Cole, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jack- obv. you're on the right path. Keep going.

Julio Desouza, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

my opinion of you has changed with your continued posting to ilm, jack. I'm glad you stuck around.

Josh, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

nothing personal against you, josh -- I just that would be amusing as my "introduction."

in reality I run a record label by myself and the PRL with several others, a fledgling and incomplete website that's been up a scant 2 and half months (the board part being around for a year). I also buy, research and sell rare books for a living.

turn ons include the Los Angeles Free Music Society, Dock Boggs, outsider music, Cleveland 70's punk and Tropicalia (to name a few).

turns offs include Stephen Malkmus, Britpop, reggae (though not dub or 60's ska), and "pop."

Jack Cole, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link


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