I HATE APPLE

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The left hand bar of commonly used directories doesn't seem to remember that I like it tiny which drives me nuts!

BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

People are such cranks, Jon, because we USED THE CLASSIC AND IT WERE AN IMPROVEMENT. it is like when adults listen to kids' music and think "wtf happened to like, marvin gaye and stuff" and then YOU come along and act all like Lil' Nephew and shit

TOMBOT, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.wackyweaselworld.com/lilBowWow.jpg

BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What is this "window theme switch"? Is his only argument for trashing the Finder based on some feature I've never used?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Lil' Nephew cannot possibly be a real person.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I came home and tried out this terrible toggle chicklet. OK, it's dumb and useless. I can't really imagine a need to have e-z toggling built in like that. Surely a "folder options" option would be enough. And yes, the toggle isn't done as smoothly as it should be. The chicklet does move a bit. That isn't good.

Um. So I'm not saying there couldn't be a better Finder, but... is that really all the guy can find to complain about?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Apple because they're responsible for the existence of this thread.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Why don't you stop using a Mac, TOMBOT? And if you don't want to stop using one, then try shutting up. You're such a whiner. This is the way it is. Deal.

Nobody In Particular, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

STOP STEALING MY SCHTICK FUCKER!!!

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't believe somebody would log out to post that!

(maybe it's a joke)

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I don't think I understand the Apple business plan. As of right now there are no standalone desktops between the Mac Mini and a dual G5 2GHz (which, moderately ride-pimped, runs a cool $2400).
That's insane.
I want/need a new G5 desktop to last two or three years in the $1200 range and I don't want/need an iMac. Surely I'm not the only person in this middle-ground market - the Mini doesn't meet my needs and I can't/won't spend $2500 on a desktop running a chip that will be obsolete in less than two years.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I no longer have Applecare! Should I worry or is it all a SHAM?

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I would actually like Elvis Telecom in particular to answer this, because I trust most everything he says (about computers, anyway).

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

milo, Apple will be selling G5 desktops well into 2007 and support will run well beyond then. However, sropping the single processor model didn't seem like the smartest idea on their part.

I would say applecare is important for laptops, less so for desktops.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I would actually like Elvis Telecom in particular to answer this, because I trust most everything he says (about computers, anyway).

AppleCare is pretty essential for laptops. They're expensive, they get beat up, and if the screen fails you're already way ahead of the game in overall cost.

I've actually had to use it once and it saved plenty of time being able to leap-frog ahead to the front of the support line. To be fair though, if I don't have my laptop I'm not able to work at all - making that "does it pay for itself" question pretty easy to answer.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:44 (eighteen years ago) link

are they planning on the intel-based machines to fill that gap or is that still too far away?

(they seem to run xp happily enough 8)

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I got 6 replacement ipods with Apple Care. Last week the 90 day warranty on the last ipod expired. Two days ago my ipod was stolen.

banana face (banana face), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate Apple

banana face (banana face), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Six?

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude, it's not their fault your thing got ripped off.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I want/need a new G5 desktop to last two or three years in the $1200 range and I don't want/need an iMac.

Agreed. My solution was to buy a g4 tower on eBay. I think there's a sweet spot in price/performance right now from the "Digital Audio" models up to the early Mirrored Drive Door g4s. Unless you're doing really processor-intensive stuff, they should be snappy for a few years still. The last batch of g4 towers are still overpriced on ebay, though.

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

banana face, do you also hate your doctor for getting you addicted to painkillers?

TOMBOT, Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate the grocery store for selling me Nutty Bars.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

hey I'm just keeping things on topic

banana face (banana face), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I figure my G4/933 is enough to last until the Intel machines come out, but I'd like to upgrade now while I'm selling stuff and have the money. Photoshop CS can already be a little slow, I dunno how CS2 will work once I find a place with lax student ID concerns (I've got a student ID, but it's not dated, etc. and don't register for classes for another two months).

AppleCare almost pays for itself in resale value for laptops even if you never need them to replace the screen or anything.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

But why six?

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Milo, my latest MacMall catalog shows a single-processor 1.8Ghz G5 for $1500. (Hmm, it doesn't show up on the website.)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

milo, review of CS2 here:

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/apps/cs2.ars

seems to suggest CS2 runs as fast or faster than CS1 on same hardware

mei (mei), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Called 'em; not available. (xpost to self)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Fry's had the single-processor model for ~$1300 last weekend (I of course didn't hear about it 'til yesterday). I guess it was an inventory clearout to make way for the new lineup.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks, guys. I am getting Applecare.

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I ravaged my ipods, Apple Care is great. I was joking.

banana face (banana face), Thursday, 23 June 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

One bad Apple don't spoil the whole bunch, girl.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, so once your warranty runs out, you cannot renew/buy Applecare?

What a RACKET! I HATE APPLE!

(are there any other independent applecare-type insurance plans that i can look at or is that it?)

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Your warranty is three years. A warranty extended beyond that would be cost-prohibitive given computer life-cycles.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

It appears that my warranty was only one year. I am blessed with many things (charm, a thick head of hair, general good nature) but foresight has never been one of them.

I HATE ADAM

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

renter's insurance at USAA has a special floater policy for home electronics like laptops, I could drop the fucker while trying to balance it on my nose and type at the same time, destory the whole thing and as long as it occurs in my apartment they'll foot the bill to buy a new one. Of course the premium for this coverage is as high as you might imagine with the potential for fraud, probably goes up 50% every six months you own the computer too.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, actually my PB is only a year old cuz I screwed up the old one:

Listen to what I am going to say very carefully: I. Poured. Beer. Into. My. Powerbook!

And Renter's Insurance paid for a whole new one WITHOUT raising the premium! Everybody - Renter's insurance WORKS! It is good! I could kiss them!


So maybe I don't need Applecare anyway.

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

MY FUCKING IPOD JUST FROZE 15 MINUTES AGO IT'S STILL FROZEN AND I'M POSTING FROM THE APPLE STORE WONDERING IF I SHOULD START BREAKING STAFF NOSES WITH IT

BARMS, Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I mention how much I HATE Apple stores?

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I need to get my iBook to the shop and have them replace it with a new one. This is the, like, 6th logic board/video card it has tore through. Gah!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Do YOU have Applecare?

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, iBooks have a quaint little habit of destroying logic boards/video cards apparently. I've got my fingers crossed that mine doesn't go batshit again.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Did you try rebooting your iPod? Instructions on the Apple site.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I do have Applecare. And mine is from that particular generation of iBooks that were known for their terrible architecture. (I'm not sure that they've improved, I just know that Apple did some sort of mea culpa about the ones made when mine was.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
my new dual G5 suddenly has a little problem wakey wakey-ing itself from energy saver sleep. I have to pull the damn thing off its special little cart (since it's about five inches longer than my old G4) open the side, pull out the air deflector and fans, hit a little reset button and reverse the process.

This is not so annoying (since after the first time you turn off energy saver), but what's wonderful is that Apple's vaunted support site (that the tech support guy from India told me about several times while on the phone) doesn't mention a goddamned thing about the process.
back to the beginning

I check my ebay auctions, go to take a shower after work, come back and it's frozen in sleep. Fuck around with everything I know for a while (hold in the power button, hold in the power button a little longer, unplug it, unplug it and leave it out a while), nada. Spend more time looking on their support site for hints: nada. Finally call tech support, sit on hold for 15 minutes, spend time going through all the processes I've already gone through (and told him about) before he decides to tell me how to reset the PMU. Thanks buddy, could have saved yourself some time there.

It seems to be working fine, I can put it to sleep and wake it just fine. Leave it on, go to the store, come back: dead. So now it's just energy saver fucking up. Reset it, call tech support, sit for 15 more minutes, rudely interrupt the surfer dude who answers when he wants me to go through the steps again. His big suggestion (guess we're off-script now) is that I need to go in and turn off the setting that sleeps hard drives whenever possible.
I get kind of pissed because I'm not a techie and I know that's unrelated - that setting is for them to sleep when they computer is working NOT WHEN IT'S GOING TO SLEEP COMPLETELY.

So I tell him I'll do that, but it's not going to work, so what do I do next? He mumbles for a while about turning off energy saver completely and I get a little pissy - I'm not paying $2300 for a desktop so I can cripple one of its features a week after it arrives. How do I make the damn thing work? He doesn't know and says something about the power supply. I cut him off and ask if I need to take it to an Apple Store, he says yeah, I hang up.

I'm sure that Dell's and HP's (etc.) customer service is no better, but I bought an Apple because it's streamlined, efficient, easy, etc. I expect that premium I paid to go for tech support, too. I shouldn't have to burn a Saturday driving to Dallas because they couldn't bump me up to someone with an idea how to solve the problem.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I wasn't completely pissed until I got the snotty guy the second time around. I can handle shipping a unit with hardware problems now and then (though Apple seems much worse about this), but when I call about the same problem for the second time in hours I expect to get bumped up a service level to someone interested in permanently fixing the problem.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

milo, i think this was mentioned on here somewhere:

http://www.tuaw.com/

OLD SPICEĀ® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks, Jon I'll look around there. Most of the suggestions I've seen around point to something in the logic board (and the helpful advice given: 'don't let it sleep,' guess Apple tech support is cribbing from macaddict.com now).

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: macfixit.com

OLD SPICEĀ® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link


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