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here's a good article about "ethnic type" (as in fonts), including chop suey/"chinesey" fonts: http://www.printmag.com/Article/Stereo_Types

1staethyr, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Awesome!

This week I went to a Chinese-themed bar with all Asian-ethnic employees, full of signs with that Chinesey font but with words in pinyin! So stuff like "NI HAO" and "XIE XIE", but written in chop suey. Clear did my head in.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

id say the black keys thing is suspect since youre looking at a white band that plays to largely white audiences using a black man to sell their product to white people on his public dancing of which their is a long tradition of that sort of thing. the weird racial issue abt it feels obvious

i agree w/ crut about 'boy' likely not hitting them, but it does feel like his race is tied up in the 'interesting'-ness of the video i guess you could say

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Friday, 4 November 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link

oh, Katie....

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2011/11/dont-worry-katie.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/roiphe/2011/11/the_99_percent_takes_over_brooklyn.html

(tho not racism-related, I really like Glenn Kenny's concluding story about Carly Simon's sister)

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 November 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

I am totally reporting that guy to the Elders of Zion. He'll be out of a job within the week.

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 November 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

Man he's gonna feel so gypped.

pplains, Friday, 4 November 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

The "gypped" thing... I have no idea how it got introduced to American slang, but it's unfortunate. I don't think I've ever encountered more than three or four people who knew its source.

Now, the dude I went to college with who was kind of a shlubby middle-american type who said something about how "he jewed me out of five dollars," on the other hand, kind of got knee-jerk punched by me. It was some sort of automatic reaction I didn't even know I had. And you know what? He had NEVER REALIZED THE CONNECTION. Like he had no idea it was racist.

I think Texas dude is probably utterly clueless but he should fucking know better. Since he's in an elected position.

mh, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

xp: I know I was saying gypped from elementary school until I reached college and made a friend of Romani ancestry who told me about it. He was pretty forgiving about it, but I did stop using it.

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 5 November 2011 09:28 (twelve years ago) link

man I never made the gypped/gypsy connection till now. whoops.

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Saturday, 5 November 2011 09:59 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i always thought of it as 'jipped' even if i'd only really heard it spoken and not read or wrote it out

prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

I think the majority of people in the US really have absolutely no idea, what with it being more of a notional idea. I had to correct a friend who was leading kind of a wandering lifestyle as she said something about 'being somewhat of a gypsy." I think I volunteered "nomad."

mh, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

is it me or do Asian epithets seem to go by more and more these days without reprisal? just seems how a lot of people in this area have deemed it acceptable territory........

Neanderthal, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of the asian-american kids I know make asian jokes to the point where I get uncomfortable

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

wayneandwax wayne marshall
did one of my students really write "black face menstrual shows"? #yikes #hopethatwasautocorrect
3 minutes ago

ice cr?m, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

I think more Americans probably connect "gypsy" with the notion of Stevie Nicks than they would with any ethnic group.

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

As in the common colloquial phrase, "I really feel Stevie Nicksed on that deal"

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

I think more Americans probably connect "gypsy" with the notion of Stevie Nicks than they would with any ethnic group.

signs you're spending too much time on ilx

iatee, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

No but really, I bet there's a bunch of people think that "gypsy" is a lifestyle choice or something.

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

im a gypsy rasta, dont h8

ice cr?m, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Anti-Roma hatred, even among 'enlightened leftists' in Britain, is the last acceptable bigotry.

trapdoor fucking spiders (dowd), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0

top rated comment:

can't wait for the english version to come out!

lulienlaluna 1 day ago 42

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Idk just listened to that for the first time, more than half of the lyrics pass me by, I can't hear what he's saying. I know nothing about his "flow" or image, if he's difficult to understand more often that youtube comment seems like an innocent pun to me?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

It's the edited version so 30% of the words are missing, rendering it unintelligible. Not sure that was what the commenter was getting at though. Maybe they mean a version where the main basketball metaphor is replaced by one from netball or field hockey.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

u need to lulienlaluna if they are a racist

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

in america there's this idea that anything that isn't proper white person english isn't english

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

u need to ask them if they are american too

i would guess they were from the land of big bottom birds judged by that comment btw

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

the english versioun

despite all my rage I am still just a Latter Day Saint (Abbbottt), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

http://shop.lululemon.com/products/clothes-accessories/men-tops/Pacific-Run-Long-Sleeve-28632?cc=9547&skuId=3431023&catId=men-tops

Check out the different colour options for this shirt...

Tuomas, Friday, 18 November 2011 08:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, kinda racist that they use a black guy to model a black shirt when they don't use a plum heathered dark slate wee stripe guy to model a plum heathered dark slate wee stripe shirt

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link

"once our internal temperature heats up"

^ take it to the grammar thread

next thing she's shaving my skrillex (NickB), Friday, 18 November 2011 09:54 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not sure if it's racist, I just thought it was an odd choice to have the same white model for the other three colours, but when you click "black" you get a black model.

Tuomas, Friday, 18 November 2011 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

It's ill advised I think

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 09:59 (twelve years ago) link

What's weird is that the "black" shirt worn by the black man isn't actually black! It's more grey isn't it?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

it's lighter than the other grey shirt!

crüt, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, it's weird the other two grey shirts are called "dark slate heathered dark slate classic stripe" and "black herringbone", but that one is just "black" (instead of "black TV static" or whatever would be appropriate). That's why it feels like some ill-thought joke.

Tuomas, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

Anti-Roma hatred, even among 'enlightened leftists' in Britain, is the last acceptable bigotry.

surprisingly and worryingly true in Ireland as well. When EU enlargement happened in 2002 or whenever, news people considered it perfectly reasonable to ask ministers whether this would mean that Ireland would be flooded by Roma.

More recently a prominent commentator and moron in one of our more reprehensible newspapers has been ranting about how his area of Dublin has been taken over by Roma beggars. Apparently there were no beggars in Ireland before Roma immigration.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

come come there's lots of acceptable bigotries in ireland!

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

wow I hate ppl

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

(just saying wht everyone is thinking)

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

i thought it'd be about terry/suarez/blatter

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

the reaction to the lenny kravitz casting makes me hate people, but the reaction to the rue casting is mindboggling. she's very clearly black in the book.

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Ew,"

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

does hollywood actress or not?!!!!!!

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

?!... ?!!!!!!

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

just saying wht everyone is thinking?!?!?!?!!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

dying at the number of people who have no clue who lenny kravitz is either, definitely this is young adult fiction

max, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link


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