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The Neverending FAP starts now!

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

NYC: one of the better places to meet new people, and/or try that new food you have heard so much about. However, it's grown too damn expensive to survive in. It says summat if many (previous) Manhattanites have returned home to Mum and Dad cause they can't afford the rent.

Was born and raised in the madness, so I'll always love it. But what will happen to Jersey or Staten Island when NYC can't hold the 20 million determined to move there?

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

The Neverending FAP starts now!

Been there, tasted that.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:54 (twenty years ago) link

But what will happen to Jersey or Staten Island when NYC can't hold the 20 million determined to move there?

Ever seen The Fifth Element?

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

The Neverending FAP starts now!

TURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN around...

http://www.kajagoogoo.com/Images/albums/limahl/limahl_7_neverending_german_a.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

I was wondering where the rest of my hair gel went.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

These days I wonder where HIS went. Though he still needs a bit:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2002/01/18/LIMAHL.JPG

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

I just wanna get out of the way of the asteroid that's DEFINITELY going to hit Manhattan (I read that somewhere), so that's my real reason for not wanting to live there.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, my mom read that too. I'm still waiting for it.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

I just wanna get out of the way of the asteroid that's DEFINITELY going to hit Manhattan

DB, tis called an urban legend. Too many diasters should have happened to NYC by now. Much like the "big one" that's supposed to sink California.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say Nichole. Every time I tell my mom I'd like to visit San Fran some day, she freaks out about how it might sink when I'm there.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

Arts universe explanation: Well, I look at it this way -- the vast majority of book and magazine publishing is based here, the news media is based here, there's a ridiculous number of art galleries (both boutique and major ones) here, Broadway is considered the pinnacle of theater (which is both good and bad, obv.), NYC has a thriving music scene and hell! In the parkling lot around the corner from my apartment street people and actors perform King Lear everynight! (tho last week they were doing interpretive dance to Panjabi MC's "Beware the Boys" -- I stayed and watched it every single night. TRULY TRANSCENDENT!!!") The reason I moved to NYC was cuz I wanted to be a writer, and I knew that this was the place to make that happen.

this is all bollocks?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck earthquakes. the reason I'm not ever going to California is the black widow spiders.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

Austin:Texas::NYC:USA (maybe Olympia:Washington, Athens:Georgia, other states are kind of a blank)?

It's where you dream of moving when you're outside the cultural norm of your area (especially as a teenager). Nightlife, record stores, shopping, interesting people, adventure, etc. Basically a "get the fuck up and out" ideal.

And the reality of both is far less exciting than the fantasy.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:47 (twenty years ago) link

Phil, in the separate times I've been there, never saw even one. Need another reason, then.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

as of today, i am officially looking for work in philadelphia. fuck new york city and its legal community. i don't even give a shit about having to take another bar exam at this point.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha. In a normal analogy, I think that would be DC:USA, but I know what you're saying.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

Whaaaa---, Tad? Let me know if you end up there. It would be a plus on the philly side of the list!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

well okay, if you like death by venom, by all means, move to california!

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link

Austin:Texas::NYC:USA (maybe Olympia:Washington, Athens:Georgia, other states are kind of a blank)?

Ur, well Olympia is more like the "Albany" of Washington state, for obvious reasons.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

Phil is right. They even eat that shit. If you see "Black Widow Burrito" anywhere, run away.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

christ is new york is anything like athens I'll never go there

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

Ur, well Olympia is more like the "Albany" of Washington state, for obvious reasons.
Why? I thought Olympia was 'cooler' than Seattle since grunge died.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

Oh man, you have no idea how wrong that thought is. But Jess could say more...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

Ha Olympia is the dumping ground for all the "fake hipsters" who couldn't make it or get dates in NYC, or anywhere else larger than the hickish hometowns they're supposedly fleeing from.

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

Well, yes, precisely. It occupies the same niche for Washington hipsters/hipster-wannabes that NYC does nationally.

"My life would be cooler if I lived there!"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

hanle y and kate the saint both lived in or around Albany, NY at some point = Albany, NY is WAY cooler and more wonderful than stinky Olympia, WA could ever hope to be.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

RE: grit

Dallas now has the highest per-capita crime rate in the nation for cities of 1mln+, and Dallas County is the twelfth most-polluted county in the nation.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Tad, what about me! Can't I be cool? (Saratoga Springs, 1982 to 1985)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

I've lived upstate (for three years); and when I was growing up the folks and I went to the Hudson Valley practically every weekend. Also I worked in Westchester County for a while so I was always taking the Metro-North up there. I consider upstate NY my second home. So I feel qualified to say: nice foliage and rivers and mountains, but the small towns are fuckin' HELLHOLES.

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

Milo what I meant is that Oly is a super small pond and therefore much easier to "make it", in a high social standing sense, than NYC. The two really aren't comparable AT ALL in this regard.

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

ie, it's generally easier to be hip anywhere else in the country than in NYC (I'm supposing).

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

puh-leeze

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

real hip motherfuckers get PhDs in aerospace and move to Alabama

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

The idea of folks moving to Olympia today only to become scenesters is just truly boggling... which might actually be a good sign for the town these days, as I think the last thing its shaky economy needs now are more black wavy haired crows in high fashion competing for the birdseed.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

Dallas now has the highest per-capita crime rate in the nation for cities of 1mln+, and Dallas County is the twelfth most-polluted county in the nation.

Like I said, grit. .

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

(Blount I meant hip in relation to yr immediate surroundings, obv [or maybe not so obv]).

― chester (synkro), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

The rest of my reasons for loving NYC.

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/chinatown3.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/car.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/bridges.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/adam.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/chinatown2.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/boat.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/adisteph.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/albums.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/highbuilding.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/desk.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/benchdude.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/cabbie.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/delancey.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/chinatown1.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/joeneil.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/tavern.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/lighthouse.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/tattooprocess.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/monkey.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/subway.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/pigeon.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/rockapulco1.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/waterfall.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/steph.jpg

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/momdad.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/nyc/adam.jpg

Ally is the next Ryan McGinley.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 8 August 2003 02:56 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, I take that back. That's just mean.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 8 August 2003 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

Out of all those pictures you pull that one.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

It was either that or the tattoo artist wearing goggles. What's up with that?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 8 August 2003 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

His name was Crazy Ninja and he was pretty convinced I was an actress but I'm not sure who he thought I was.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

one of those pictures is very cool and very sad

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 August 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

The first pic of that string is my block! When did you take that, Ally?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 8 August 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

About a month before I found out you lived there, Yanc3y. I was doing it for a linguistics project.

I know which one is the sad picture...I used to go up there like at least once a week to just stare at everything. Actually, two pix were taken from there: the view of the bridges and the one straight down on the city.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 14:20 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, actually, gabbneb, that's not yr car is it? I'm sorry I wrote on it if that's the sad pic.

;)

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 14:21 (twenty years ago) link

i work in the black building on the right, in the pic going straight down onto church st

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 8 August 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

Why move to NYC and not anywhere else in the world? Is there anything left that's special or unique about NYC that doesn't exist in any other large US city?

Yes. I have no idea what. Further study is required.

it's pretty much our platonic ideal of 'the city;' anywhere else is just 'a city.'

Ding ding ding! (though see also London)

I'll say this, though. I certainly wish fuckin' less people would move here and leave the city for those snobby shits like myself who were actually born here, goddammit!

Nothing good ever came of an enterprise of entirely NY-born humans.

Ned:
To be fair, I've found perfect serenity more than once in the middle of Manhattan, and not in Central Park even.

http://www.demotelco.com/fb/photo/resources/217114166216105612301474000001/ned.jpg?tw=450&th=450

OK let's move to Alabama immediately.

Sellout.

People move to NYC because they imagine that it has a constant stream of the new and interesting. This is true, because the people that come to see it, bring it.

Obviously, the chips on the shoulders of NYCers born and bred are nothing compared to those of people who moved there.

Sinatra got it slightly wrong: Once you make yourself there, you can take yourself anywhere. For people that are still cookie dough, it's the hottest oven. Obviously this is mass delusion, but so is the United States of America.

(I had to rewrite this, as the first time I was using 'here' instead of 'there').

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 8 August 2003 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

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