Steve Jobs RIP 1955-2011

^^^

it's kind of like finding out the dark mysterious rebel you had a crush on is actually just a boring yuppie

And a somewhat typical CEO-style dick

maybe you guys are learning something about ... yourselves?

haha for a minute I was thinking "wait, what kind of dick does a CEO have"

Well-polished

The guy was pretty human

ya, finding out about his opinions on john mayer's career arc was just devastating

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/22/books/steve-jobs-by-walter-isaacson-review.html?_r=2

SOMEBODY has never actually PLAYED Angry Birds.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: October 22, 2011

An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated the premise of “Angry Birds,” a popular iPhone game. In the game, slingshots are used to launch birds to destroy pigs and their fortresses, not to shoot down the birds.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/05/technology/20111006_JOBS_READER-slide-DFIA/20111006_JOBS_READER-slide-DFIA-articleLarge.jpg

god he looks young there

GOSSIP and several lols:

Jobs then used a crude word for defecation to describe Android and other products outside of search.

"The words of cultural icons have a lot of power after death," veteran technology analyst Rob Enderle said. "This almost sounds like a spiritual leader declaring a jihad on Android as his dying wish."

After Google's Jan. 20 announcement that Page would replace Schmidt as CEO in April, Page called Jobs for some pointers. Jobs told Isaacson that his first instinct was to reject Page with a curt expletive, but he reconsidered as he recalled his times as a young entrepreneur listening to the advice of elder Silicon Valley statesmen including Bill Hewlett, co-founder of Hewlett-Packard Co.

the awesome condescension of the last one

In an unauthorized biography by Alan Deutschman, a college friend said that Jobs had even been a lover of folk singer Joan Baez, who was 41 at the time, and the attraction was largely because she had also been intimate with another '60s icon, Bob Dylan.

C'mon we've all been there, trying to fuck Bob Dylan by association

Come on guys, we've all tried to hook up with 40 year olds when we were young men for the perceived artistic cachet.

come on that's the ultimate music nerd move, you guys should be sympathetic

Will someone post a diagram showing exactly which women are 2, 4, 6 etc. shag degrees from Bob Dylan? I assume there are quite a few to choose from besides Joan....

if he was such a music nerd why did he decide to destroy music by inventing a computer the internet and an ipod

kill yr idols iirc

tbf bob dylan also decided to destroy music </open goal>

If he really cared about Joan Baez he would have taken a job as CEO of PBS.

TS: dating Joan Baez in the late 70s vs Edie Sedgwick in the late 70s

joan baez is almost an anagram of steve jobs

Zteve Jobs.

Zaean Job

in fact if you take the letters their names don't share you end up with ZEN Vs. AAs

hmm

where in either of those names do you see a v or a ., conrad

fair enough I was just thinking aloud

.s are free though and you could use the v from steve

TS: Music Nerds vs. Scrabble Nerds

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/25/sony-courting-aaron-sorkin-to-write-screenplay-for-steve-jobs-movie/

now could sorkin vilify steve jobs as much as he did mark zuckerberg is the question

did you notice the v in steve yet

pretty sure its a silent v

The ebook of the bio leaked and is number one on the what.cd top ten o_O

Interesting take:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/opinion/nocera-the-biographers-dilemma.html

I'm about 2/3rds of the way though this bio, and I don't think they really need to vilify Jobs to have him come off as manipulative, overly emotional, and mercurial. He's called all these things, and more, throughout the book. One of his exes flat-out claims that she thinks he had may have had narcissistic personality disorder!

Oh, it also quotes people soooo many times saying that he smelled bad

iStink #hereallweek

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/25/steve_jobs_and_barack_obama_the_angry_years.html

Jobs tried to focus on a positive policy idea, and let "any foreign student who earned an engineering degree" stay in the USA on a visa. Obama pointed out that Republicans had blocked the DREAM Act. "The president is very smart," Jobs tells Isaacson, "but he kept explaining to us reasons why things can't get done. It infuriates me."

Imagine telling the US president "I design computers and YOU are doing it all wrong"

sounds like every other garden variety silicon valley asshole I've ever met

I was gonna say, you don't seem to understand American businessmen AA

There's like a decent magazine interview's worth of direct quotes from Jobs in this book.

There are a couple of telling bits, though ...

Spoilers, I guess

Eg there's a bit where Jobs is near death and they want to put an oxygen mask on him. He was delirious but tried to pull the mask off, saying he hated the design and wanted to see five options to choose from. It's almost self parody and kinda proof how deep he held this stuff.

you just made that detail up right stet

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g33/GeneralissimoFurioso/burns.jpg

I keep reading Ive as I've, it's doing my head in. That said I'm only in as far as the start of chapter 1 because I have exams.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/25/steve_jobs_and_barack_obama_the_angry_years.html

Jobs tried to focus on a positive policy idea, and let "any foreign student who earned an engineering degree" stay in the USA on a visa. Obama pointed out that Republicans had blocked the DREAM Act. "The president is very smart," Jobs tells Isaacson, "but he kept explaining to us reasons why things can't get done. It infuriates me."
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The top comment on that article expands on what was actually said in the book and it puts a completely different slant on things.
(SPOILERS)

The relevant parts that Wiegel oddly left out of this opinion piece:

"Jobs sent Jarrett an email saying it was a bloated list and he had no intention of coming. In fact his health problems had flared anew by then, so he would not have been able to go in any case, as Doerr privately explained to the president."

That's the entire paragraph. Wiegel left off the last (important) line, and then he (Wiegel) wrongly implies that the Washington meeting went on as planned. It didn't. The very next paragraph in the book:

In February 2011, Doerr began making plans to host a small dinner for President Obama in Silicon Valley. He and Jobs, along with their wives, went to dinner at Evvia, a Greek restaurant in Palo Alto, to draw up a tight guest list. The dozen chosen tech titans included Google’s Eric Schmidt, Yahoo’s Carol Bartz, Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, Cisco’s John Chambers, Oracle’s Larry Ellison, Genentech’s Art Levinson, and Netflix’s Reed Hastings...

Jobs, sitting next to the president, kicked off the dinner by saying, “Regardless of our political persuasions, I want you to know that we’re here to do whatever you ask to help our country.” Despite that, the dinner initially became a litany of suggestions of what the president could do for the businesses there. Chambers, for example, pushed a proposal for a repatriation tax holiday that would allow major corporations to avoid tax payments on overseas profits if they brought them back to the United States for investment during a certain period. The president was annoyed, and so was Zuckerberg, who turned to Valerie Jarrett, sitting to his right, and whispered, “We should be talking about what’s important to the country. Why is he just talking about what’s good for him?”
Doerr was able to refocus the discussion by calling on everyone to suggest a list of action items. When Jobs’s turn came, he stressed the need for more trained engineers and suggested that any foreign students who earned an engineering degree in the United States should be given a visa to stay in the country. Obama said that could be done only in the context of the “Dream Act,” which would allow illegal aliens who arrived as minors and finished high school to become legal residents—something that the Republicans had blocked. Jobs found this an annoying example of how politics can lead to paralysis. “The president is very smart, but he kept explaining to us reasons why things can’t get done,” he recalled. “It infuriates me.”
Jobs went on to urge that a way be found to train more American engineers. Apple had 700,000 factory workers employed in China, he said, and that was because it needed 30,000 engineers on-site to support those workers. “You can’t find that many in America to hire,” he said. These factory engineers did not have to be PhDs or geniuses; they simply needed to have basic engineering skills for manufacturing. Tech schools, community colleges, or trade schools could train them. “If you could educate these engineers,” he said, “we could move more manufacturing plants here.” The argument made a strong impression on the president. Two or three times over the next month he told his aides, “We’ve got to find ways to train those 30,000 manufacturing engineers that Jobs told us about.”
Jobs was pleased that Obama followed up, and they talked by telephone a few times after the meeting. He offered to help create Obama’s political ads for the 2012 campaign. (He had made the same offer in 2008, but he’d become annoyed when Obama’s strategist David Axelrod wasn’t totally deferential.) “I think political advertising is terrible. I’d love to get Lee Clow out of retirement, and we can come up with great commercials for him,” Jobs told me a few weeks after the dinner. Jobs had been fighting pain all week, but the talk of politics energized him. “Every once in a while, a real ad pro gets involved, the way Hal Riney did with ‘It’s morning in America’ for Reagan’s reelection in 1984. So that’s what I’d like to do for Obama.”

And as for the "hook" about the "one-term presidency" comment? That's actually from earlier in 2010:

"...The meeting actually lasted forty-five minutes, and Jobs did not hold back. “You’re headed for a one-term presidency,” Jobs told Obama at the outset.
Jobs offered to put together a group of six or seven CEOs who could really explain the innovation challenges facing America, and the president accepted. So Jobs made a list of people for a Washington meeting to be held in December..."

Something a bit different in tone from what Wiegel wants to have happened.

I remember sometime soon after that dinner meeting Obama mentioned Jobs at a business summit. Paraphrase: "Steve Jobs mentioned the lack of an educated workforce as cause for Apple outsourcing to China, though I suspect cost also played a part in that decision..."

zing