Steve Jobs RIP 1955-2011

ppl bringing that argument never seem to advocate for the rights of the shareholders of any other company

I dont give a shit, personally. I also don't give a shit about Steve Jobs (aside from generic empathy; died too young is died too young). Just saying I can imagine it being a concern to those who do/did both of those things. I imagine if I were a profit-minded shareholder - and they all are - I would care, which is why this secrecy stuff was brought up *before* he died. Not to burst any bubbles, but Apple was a business. It's "think different" campaign was advertising, because when it came to the bottom line, it filled swimming pools with blood-soaked, coke-tainted cash like any other flush company. And to pretend a very famously public yet paradoxically secretive CEO/creative driver, uniquely linked to his product, with a mysterious illness who nonetheless stayed mum on the situation was like any other CEO/company is just a little silly. Dude was exceptional in many regards.

I agree with everything you said 510ck1, which is why I think that it's gonna be hilarious and sad if/when these suits start showing up

but maybe the stock price should drop a little first

In a chapter about the music Mr. Jobs most admired, he chided an unusual target: the singer and guitarist John Mayer. Mr. Jobs knew Mr. Mayer, who performed at an Apple product introduction in 2004. While Mr. Jobs spoke with admiration of Mr. Mayer’s guitar-playing, he told the author that the artist is “out of control” and could be “blowing it big time.” There’s no explanation in the book of what prompted Mr. Jobs’s concerns.

<3 <3 <3

The more I read about the man, the less I like him.

^^^

it's kind of like finding out the dark mysterious rebel you had a crush on is actually just a boring yuppie

And a somewhat typical CEO-style dick

maybe you guys are learning something about ... yourselves?

haha for a minute I was thinking "wait, what kind of dick does a CEO have"

Well-polished

The guy was pretty human

ya, finding out about his opinions on john mayer's career arc was just devastating

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/22/books/steve-jobs-by-walter-isaacson-review.html?_r=2

SOMEBODY has never actually PLAYED Angry Birds.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: October 22, 2011

An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated the premise of “Angry Birds,” a popular iPhone game. In the game, slingshots are used to launch birds to destroy pigs and their fortresses, not to shoot down the birds.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/05/technology/20111006_JOBS_READER-slide-DFIA/20111006_JOBS_READER-slide-DFIA-articleLarge.jpg

god he looks young there

GOSSIP and several lols:

Jobs then used a crude word for defecation to describe Android and other products outside of search.

"The words of cultural icons have a lot of power after death," veteran technology analyst Rob Enderle said. "This almost sounds like a spiritual leader declaring a jihad on Android as his dying wish."

After Google's Jan. 20 announcement that Page would replace Schmidt as CEO in April, Page called Jobs for some pointers. Jobs told Isaacson that his first instinct was to reject Page with a curt expletive, but he reconsidered as he recalled his times as a young entrepreneur listening to the advice of elder Silicon Valley statesmen including Bill Hewlett, co-founder of Hewlett-Packard Co.

the awesome condescension of the last one

In an unauthorized biography by Alan Deutschman, a college friend said that Jobs had even been a lover of folk singer Joan Baez, who was 41 at the time, and the attraction was largely because she had also been intimate with another '60s icon, Bob Dylan.

C'mon we've all been there, trying to fuck Bob Dylan by association

Come on guys, we've all tried to hook up with 40 year olds when we were young men for the perceived artistic cachet.

come on that's the ultimate music nerd move, you guys should be sympathetic

Will someone post a diagram showing exactly which women are 2, 4, 6 etc. shag degrees from Bob Dylan? I assume there are quite a few to choose from besides Joan....

if he was such a music nerd why did he decide to destroy music by inventing a computer the internet and an ipod

kill yr idols iirc

tbf bob dylan also decided to destroy music </open goal>

If he really cared about Joan Baez he would have taken a job as CEO of PBS.

TS: dating Joan Baez in the late 70s vs Edie Sedgwick in the late 70s

joan baez is almost an anagram of steve jobs

Zteve Jobs.

Zaean Job

in fact if you take the letters their names don't share you end up with ZEN Vs. AAs

hmm

where in either of those names do you see a v or a ., conrad

fair enough I was just thinking aloud

.s are free though and you could use the v from steve

TS: Music Nerds vs. Scrabble Nerds

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/25/sony-courting-aaron-sorkin-to-write-screenplay-for-steve-jobs-movie/

now could sorkin vilify steve jobs as much as he did mark zuckerberg is the question

did you notice the v in steve yet

pretty sure its a silent v

The ebook of the bio leaked and is number one on the what.cd top ten o_O

Interesting take:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/opinion/nocera-the-biographers-dilemma.html

I'm about 2/3rds of the way though this bio, and I don't think they really need to vilify Jobs to have him come off as manipulative, overly emotional, and mercurial. He's called all these things, and more, throughout the book. One of his exes flat-out claims that she thinks he had may have had narcissistic personality disorder!

Oh, it also quotes people soooo many times saying that he smelled bad

iStink #hereallweek

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/25/steve_jobs_and_barack_obama_the_angry_years.html

Jobs tried to focus on a positive policy idea, and let "any foreign student who earned an engineering degree" stay in the USA on a visa. Obama pointed out that Republicans had blocked the DREAM Act. "The president is very smart," Jobs tells Isaacson, "but he kept explaining to us reasons why things can't get done. It infuriates me."

Imagine telling the US president "I design computers and YOU are doing it all wrong"

sounds like every other garden variety silicon valley asshole I've ever met

I was gonna say, you don't seem to understand American businessmen AA

There's like a decent magazine interview's worth of direct quotes from Jobs in this book.

There are a couple of telling bits, though ...

Spoilers, I guess

Eg there's a bit where Jobs is near death and they want to put an oxygen mask on him. He was delirious but tried to pull the mask off, saying he hated the design and wanted to see five options to choose from. It's almost self parody and kinda proof how deep he held this stuff.

you just made that detail up right stet