hey HMHB and Shellac are both cool bands I wonder why more people don't cover their songs - well I'm gonna do something about that
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
England keep his bones but make the rest of him into a ginsters pie and shoot it into the sun.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:36 (twelve years ago) link
but in a derogatory way
― mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 10:45 (twelve years ago) link
A ginster's pie-radise. Amirite?
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
I used to know this guy slightly when he was in Million Dead or some band before that, he was outstandingly pretentious.
― |III|||II|||I|I||| (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 October 2011 22:51 (Yesterday)
I know someone who was friends with him when he was in Million Dead, but they drifted apart as FT got more popular and more dickish and indeed pretentious to go with it. All things considered, he must be at unimaginable highs of pretentiousness nowadays.
― sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Friday, 21 October 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
I have both the CDs that Kneejerk (his band before Million Dead) did and they are not bad as wide-eyed Britisher imitations of Refused go but the lyrics are just this witless overreaching teenage jumble of pretend Situationism
like I say, an imitation of Refused
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 11:37 (twelve years ago) link
btw what's the deal w/ M@tt using the phrase "rockist git" in the title of this thread
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link
"rockist" is old-school shorthand for someone who believes a very particular tranche of music -- in this case "roots rock" -- is "real music", and that his own "realness" (despite class background) can be ensured by bad mimicry and the "correct" gestural tropes
"git" is accurately descriptive
― mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link
It's also a subtle play on the phrase 'rocket-powered ginsters'
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link
Just seen that video. Oh my god. Oh my dear god.
― dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link
BTW, this guy is apparently headlining Wembley Arena next year O_O
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link
this is another one of those dudes who i read about in kerrang (dont ask) like two years ago and i thought "well, this will never be a thing" and now it's apparently a thing and please england dont send him to america :'(
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
For a start, you can't bang on about "fuckin' rock'n'roll" and then pump out that kind of limp guitar pop.
― dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
my track record in guessing which horrible altrock dudes will actually become popular is just terrible. a record label should hire me as some kind of anti a&r man.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
You can be the people's a&r man and protect us from faux punk bro-folk.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfnv97Uz8-Y
― dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
The funniest thing about this is the bassline.. oompa loompa doompa dee doo
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
omg that shellac cover. mencap ima kill u.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
its bringing back memories of so many horrible open mic "JUST LET ME DRINK IN PEACE" nights circa 1999 to 2004. except it would have been a sensetive chumbawumba cover.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link
^ give him time on that one i guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWwdAtReCAQ
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
The straining, throaty, white male rock vocal is possibly my least favourite sound in the known universe. OP video is hilarious though and those lyrics even out-conservatived the intro. But the "Build Me Up Buttercup" cover was where it went from amusing to painful, not cool NickB
― Leonard Pine, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
Frank Turner, Elliott Smith And Nick Drake are all so amazing
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― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link
Hoping they've got Frank on suicide watch, just in case.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
― mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 11:57 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol thx Mark, it was more that it seemed an unusual turn of phrase for star ilxor "upper mississippi sh@kedown"
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
mimicry is contagious
― mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
upper mississippi sh@kedown tomorrow: "'Ere, what's this geezer up to? 'E's avin' a larf, innee?"
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
there is no fucking way i am listening to the Shellac or Foundations covers.
elephant in the room: this guy is clearly a stupendous choad, and yet he is a stupendous choad who is presumably getting v. paid and laid. i see his angle. we shd consider the tens of thousands of human beings, many of whom live and work amongst us, who think this is the soundtrack of their lifes.
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
like i am usually the first to pile on about the subjectivity of taste and the importance of context in listening to music, so why does this particular kind of thing make me wanna google sarin recipes?
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
Perhaps it's lyrics like
The ladies of London townGo flowing through these streets like waterRunning little streams down to the river.They wash the dirty ground, they sweep me off my feet,But like an English summer, they'll soon be gone forever.
― antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, well life is about love, lost minutes and lost evening. About fire in our bellies and about furtive little feelings. And the aching amplitudes that set our needles all a-flickering. And they help us with remembering that the only thing that's left to do is live. . After all of the loving and losing, after all the heroes and the pioneers. The only thing that's left to do is get another round in at the bar.
― antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
You've got a generation raised on the welfare state,Enjoyed all its benefits and did just great,But as soon as they were settled as the richest of the rich,They kicked away the ladder, told the rest of us that life's a bitch.
― antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
some lyrical platitudes can be alright tho? maybe it's platitudinousness thinking it's a manifesto that irritates
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
Oh yes these are most certainly manifestos.
Once an honest man could go from sunrise to its setWithout encountering agents of his state or governmentBut a sorry cloud of tyranny has fallen across the landBrought on by hollow men, who did not understandThat for centuries our forefather have fought and often diedTo keep themselves unto themselves, to fight the rising tideAnd that if in the smallest battles we surrender to the stateWe enter in a darkness whence we never shall escape
― antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
ah, it's like the Levellers never came into their inheritances and took up seats in the House of Lords
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
And that if in the smallest battles we surrender to the stateWe enter in a darkness whence we never shall escape
Conservative Party manifesto right there.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
I know what NV means. Normally I reserve disdain for artists but with Turner/Sheeran/Mumfords their passionate fans are actually more annoying for thinking this is any way profound and not ghastly and wrong.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
― antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:48 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
interesting definition of "us" here
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
A few things wrong with his history of the welfare state there.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
i blame his education
― mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
id never heard of him until today idk
― Vampyroteuthis Weeks (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
i hadn't heard of him until last night.
great days.
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
rockist git is a thoroughly unamerican pejorative it's like calling him an infernal bounder or sthing
― Vampyroteuthis Weeks (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFEa7pRO1o
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Infernal bounder would be taken as boosterism by any red blooded English person. Like, ah, gangsta for instance.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
if in the smallest battles we surrender to the stateWe enter in a darkness whence we never shall escape
so he sticks to the anarcho-syndicalist bits of the NHS, that's cool. This is my new most-hated music. Looking forward to my gf's tween daughter's inevitable move from her current Ed Sheeran fixation to this git. I accept that youth has to make its own mistakes.
Most I can say is that enjoy the awkwardness of the hmhb cover not coming off or making any sense to the audience, except one bloke at the back. Haven't punished self by watching shellac one yet.
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
For a start, you can't bang on about "fuckin' rock'n'roll" and then pump out that kind of limp guitar pop
Yeah, I thought of that Mr. Show sketch about the rap musical with no rap.
― David T. T-Pain? I guess? (CharlieS), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, October 21, 2011 6:39 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol i thought about asking if i was using it right! i mostly just wanted to convey that he was from the UK and get UK ppl to comment since i had never heard of this choad before and i figured he was a big deal over here...
basically i wanted stuff like that eton background and all that
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, October 21, 2011 8:20 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
oi mate....full stop.
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
you should just have called him a cunt in the thread title then we would have got it
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 21 October 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
ysi?
― Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link
just remembered, quite unprompted, that this guy existed and frankly it's ruined my weeked
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link
Dead? No.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Friday, 9 March 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link
Now a published author...
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The brand new memoir from the Sunday Times bestselling author of The Road Beneath My Feet.Taking 36 songs from his back catalogue, folk-punk icon Frank Turner explores his songwriting process. Find out the stories behind the songs forged in the hedonistic years of the mid-2000s North London scene, the ones perfected in Nashville studios, and everything in between. Some of these songs arrive fully-formed, as if they've always been there, some take graft and endless reworking to find 'the one'. In exploring them all, Turner reflects with eloquence, insight and self-deprecating wit on exactly what it is to be a songwriter.From love songs and break-up songs to political calls-to-arms; songs composed alone in a hotel room or in soundcheck with the Sleeping Souls, this brilliantly written memoir - featuring exclusive photos of handwritten lyrics and more - is a must-have book for FT fans and anyone curious about how to write music.
Taking 36 songs from his back catalogue, folk-punk icon Frank Turner explores his songwriting process. Find out the stories behind the songs forged in the hedonistic years of the mid-2000s North London scene, the ones perfected in Nashville studios, and everything in between. Some of these songs arrive fully-formed, as if they've always been there, some take graft and endless reworking to find 'the one'. In exploring them all, Turner reflects with eloquence, insight and self-deprecating wit on exactly what it is to be a songwriter.
From love songs and break-up songs to political calls-to-arms; songs composed alone in a hotel room or in soundcheck with the Sleeping Souls, this brilliantly written memoir - featuring exclusive photos of handwritten lyrics and more - is a must-have book for FT fans and anyone curious about how to write music.
― Lammy's Show (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link
... it is, of course, his second book.
― Lammy's Show (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link
who could have guessed that, of all the horrors of the last couple of weeks, it would be the reminder that frank turner exists that would push me over the edge into full-on existential crisis― for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 10:46 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link
the verdict is in on frank turner's live version of 'i still believe', folks
https://i.imgur.com/OXoD79Y.jpg
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 23 June 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
checks out
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 June 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
user sirgreendown pegged this eight years ago
I STILL BELIEVE...in music not made by black folks or people with vaginas.― SirGreendown, Friday, October 21, 2011 12:43 AM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 23 June 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link
_ who could have guessed that, of all the horrors of the last couple of weeks, it would be the reminder that frank turner exists that would push me over the edge into full-on existential crisis― for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 10:46 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink_
― turn me on and press my teabag (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 23 June 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link
sorry about that
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 23 June 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link