not programmatic per se but i feel like you just have to x years old/entrenched in underground rock to have been offended by SP -- to alt rock kids at the time it was like ok these new guys aren't as good as nirvana but they're better than stone temple pilots so let's give them a chance, annoying vocals and all
fwiw alex in nyc's "i would like to remind you that michael jackson still sucks" is hilarious to me too
― some dude, Friday, 14 October 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
lol this is otm & fair enough on all points, I'm probably pretty sensitive to charges of coming off old-dude because a lot of my peers listen to exactly nothing that's new and I look at them and think "how can you have become the blinkered person talking about how fuckin great music was when you were a teenager" - kinda take pride in not being that dude as far as my listening habits go. & part of why I hate sp so bad is like I consider some hated bands of today like my chemical romance considerably more listenable than Ol' Wheezy & His Style-Free Sidemen
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 14 October 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
smashing pumpkins were my favorite band in elementary, middle, and high school. like ned i'll stan for billy's solo record but not much beyond that.
but i actually listened to some of the songs from the tearygarden thing today and i thought one was pretty okay! he used to be a less terrible lyricist though
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
I'm also fascinated by how it's not just that some people like a band I always had a particular allergy to - it's, some people had life-changing experiences with a band whose music makes me reach for a glass of drano
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 14 October 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
it's not necessarily a good life
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2011 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah i loved adore when it came out and all my friends were like "this soft shit is terrible, what happened to mellon collie"
that experience informed a lot of my later attitudes, i'm sure.
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
I understand that sentiment; I feel that way about some other currently popular whiney-voiced indie bands my friends are really into. But I love early Pumpkins unreservedly.
― wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Friday, 14 October 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
("currently popular whiney-voiced indie bands" not meant to be a zing - lol)
lol I wondered whether it was just my narcissism that made me go "OOOH SNAP"
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 14 October 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
hope corgan hires mould
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 October 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
I would only go see the Pumpkins in 2011 if I could go with that guy from Ya Ho Wha 13 whose ecstatic FB comments I posted upthread.
― wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Friday, 14 October 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
Corgan blames state of music industry for Del Rey's 'SNL' appearance
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
This is my favorite line: "Don't call it rock 'n' roll. I was part of a generation that changed the world -- and it was taken over by poseurs."
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
okay Billy, I will not call "Party Rock Anthem" or "Super Bass" rock 'n' roll
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
to be fair, both members of LMFAO call themselves "rock 'n' roll" in Party Rock Anthem
― Sexess - Sexual Success Or; Successful Sex (crüt), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Basically all Billy Corgan did for his generation was bridge the gap between Nirvana and Third Eye Blind.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Despite all his rageHe's watching Lana Del Rey take the stage
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
that stings x-post
― Sexess - Sexual Success Or; Successful Sex (crüt), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
Corgan lost his hair for rock and roll, dudes!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
Despite all his rageHe's watching Lana Del Rey take the stageVideo Gaaaaaaaaames
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
the empty bodies stand at restcasualties of their own fleshvideo gaaaayyymes
― Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
he actually didn't call Lana Del Rey "rock and roll," if you carefully read that mini-story that was made for attention spans of an era in which alleged adult tastemakers listen to kiddie pop.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
stop defending billy corgan
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't appear that he accused anyone else of calling her such either
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't appear that anyone in this thread accused him of that referring to LDR with the "rock & roll" line, so maybe it's you who needs the lesson in careful reading
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
sorry. it's not like I've ever seen or heard LDR, or "Party Rock Anthem" or "Super bass."
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
well, they all suck more or less, but they're also not aimed at condescending old fossils whose attention spans are so "long" that they only show up on threads about acts that peaked before 1996, so don't worry about that, nobody's surprised
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
come meet me
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
and the pavement?
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
some dude, I think you peaked in utero
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
well of course, In Utero was the greatest album ever made by the generation that changed the world
― Sexess - Sexual Success Or; Successful Sex (crüt), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
i bought In Utero w/ my allowance money (my brother got Siamese Dream, to keep it on topic)
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
aw crut, sorry u took that bait. YOU KIDS MAKE THIS WORLD LOUSY
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
does this make morbs and whiney a wary alliance?
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
whiney and i are friends who are obnoxious to each other on the board, there's not much mutual respect or affection under the surface w/ me and morbz
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
well tbh you should come up and we'll all have beers
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
on what basis? I don't even see whiney's comments on this thread, and I have no love for the SmPumps.... they had some good moments. xxp
sd, I have no idea what you're like aside from a guy who enjoys throwin shit at me.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
I have no idea what you're like aside from a guy who enjoys throwin shit at everyone on the board
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
meh, not so. but why argue
I got to see a Mellon Collie-era show for free that was dece entertainment
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
well, you throw a lot of shit, you have to admit. the only reason i'm giving you any attitude right now is because you stomped into a random thread sneering at everyone in the most self-righteous way possible for allegedly misreading something when you yourself misread the thread. and the only reason nobody else bothered is because people are so used to you being a pompous windbag that your antics in this thread register pretty low on the morbs scale. ta!
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
pomp this, junior
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
i. said. ta.
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
o shit if you say 'ta' does that mean argument's over? no tag-backs?
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link
mookie's color commentary is getting weird. 'ta' is something dr. m always says when he's trying to have the last word, though.
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
oh, ok. ta. then.
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
curse you Billy Corgan, you're tearing us apart
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
Emptiness is loneliness and all.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
and Ned is empty, just like me.
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
Well I have felt a little lackluster.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
He used to be a little girl
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 March 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link