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remember when the imac came out and everyone was shocked that it didnt have a floppy drive?

max, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone running Leopard on an AppleTV?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

max, its too soon for this

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

TOO SOON

max, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i like this new air thing, i just don't like the price

DG, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeh, it'd be a neat thing at £799 or something.

stet, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

For what I would use it for (i.e. a more portable companion to my MBP) none of that bothers me apart from the glossy screen and the cost of the SSD.

Ed, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link

does the remote disk software work between other macs i.e. not just imac to macbook air but imac to macbook?

and was there any mention of wireless time machine back-ups for non time capsule users?

also apple tv still £200 in the UK????

czn, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

£269 for 160gb model.

stet, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Any predictions on when the iPhone will get a more serious update?

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

when this list is a bit longer.

Ed, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

so appletv is still 40 gb huh

s1ocki, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

so is this a thumbs down on the macbook air?

gbx, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Hated it

G00blar, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

do they still even make 40 gig disk or are they just clearing the warehouse

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

so is this a thumbs down on the macbook air?

-- gbx, Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yes

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

It's essentially designed to be an $1800 extra computer.

G00blar, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

O, you can't change the battery, either!

stet, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @cnn.com comments --


JJL
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There is no Mac envy from PC users; why would we envy a system that we can't do anything on, except what Apple tells us what we can do? Rather the frustration comes from the fact that Apple has so many users who are willing tools to whatever lunacy Jobs is willing to spew. Notice that PC users have no problem whatsoever going after Gates or Microsoft when it's warranted. Go ahead and feel content with your Mac; I'll feel equally content with my PC, knowing it can do hundreds (if not thousands) of things a Mac can't. less

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

so is this a thumbs down on the macbook air?

In it's current form, yes. My problem with it is that it's still too much like a regular laptop and a relatively safe product. I would have been much more excited if it was a 12" screen with a 80GB SSD drive only and more like a iPod/iPhone with a bigger screen and keyboard. Something that's more like a satellite computer to your main computer than an independent entity.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

when this list is a bit longer.

But isn't that like 95% of the US population??

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear Steve - I would like an iPhone with that 60GB SSD. k thx bye

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Ed doesn't live in america

gbx, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

That list for the rest of the world is a hell of a lot better, it would be presented in map form for a start. A lot of that 3G coverage is very centralised in those metros, doesn't cover a lot of suburbs.

Ed, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

We'll see SSD standard by 2011

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

OTM.

BTW 5 hr battery life is 'productivity' battery life five hours with wireless on, whatever that means.

Ed, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Sounds like typical "word mail and safari" usage pattern

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

A lot of that 3G coverage is very centralised in those metros, doesn't cover a lot of suburbs.

Ah, ok.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha, they played Belle & Sebastian during the keynote.

stet, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link

What is this new computer actually for?

laxalt, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

pickin up hoochies at starbucks

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

aspirational mass transit dick-waving

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

The pointlessness of this computer, and its price tag, is something else

laxalt, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

but it fits in a file folder

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

only manilla ones though

sanskrit, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Something that's more like a satellite computer to your main computer than an independent entity.

http://laptop.org/laptop/

+ xClient.
m.

msp, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

1.6ghz processor

is this really a problem? The 2GB of RAM will do photoshop, etc.

no wired networking

I have never used the ethernet port on my MacBook in more than a year of travelling/different offices, etc. this is a non-issue for the target market now and it will be even more of a non-issue in 12 months.

mono speaker

who buys a small portable for its built-in speakers?

no line in

that sucks.

no firewire

regrettable, but it's a physically large port. had to go, I suspect. Apple have been quietly shuffling away from FW for a couple of years now.

And I don't like glossy screens, but I suppose that's not "crippled".

i'd prefer a matte screen, but you _very_ quickly stop noticing glossy screens are glossy. Not looking at you here at all (I'm sure you and Ed have your reasons), but I do think a lot of the anti-glossy sentiment is anti-neophyte/anti-PC/anti-marketing snobbery from people who've never used a glossy screen for any length of time. seriously, they're fine.

caek, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 10:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I still don't like it though.

Now this is something I can get behind: http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/?sr=hotnews

caek, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 10:11 (sixteen years ago) link

My gripe with the glossy is it makes the laptop less functional, get the wrong light behind you and the screen is harder to see. I was working on my MBP outdoors in the mniddle of 9th Av. last week and although it was difficult to see the screen because of the sun, it was not impossible, I doubt I cul have done that with the glossy. 5 hr battery life. i want to be able to work outdoors. I quite like glossy in some situations. When sony first started soing it it wasa big wow especially on televisions, it just annoys me a little that there is no alternative on laptops.

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Stay in Britain. Sunshine not a problem here.

I did work on my MacBook in the back garden a little last summer. Had to sit with the sun in front/to the side, but it was possible. But you're right that you'd have a better shot at seeing the screen with an MBP with bright sun behind you.

caek, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link

A choice is all, I'd much rather watch a movie on the glossy with the curtains closed.

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

time capsule really looks like the business. you can use it like a normal hard drive too. (any word on whether you can mount it remotely? like a kind of personal idisk?)

i guess they're still selling airport extreme base station as a diskless, non-time-machinable alternative. i wonder how much longer it will live.

btw cozen there are plenty of backup programs that will use your current airport disk as a backup target. there's no real need to use time machine - it's not actually that much better than other stuff.

many questions for me about apple tv. they say you can watch it anywhere - on your ipod, on your hdtv, on your computer. and it's all managed through itunes. what happens when you download an HD movie and want to watch it on your ipod? either alternative seems insane - that it transfers the entire HD movie to your ipod (your ipod would fill up very quickly), or that it does an h.264 transcode of the entire thing (would take forever, non?)

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link

xp, yes, a choice would be nice. I'm sure there are economies of scale at play with the decision not to offer one though, since most people would presumably opt for glossy.

caek, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link

another question - if you transfer a movie you rented to your ipod and started watching it, but then waited, say, 48 hours to sync it with itunes again, how would your itunes know you had started watching it??

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link

you can only watch it on one device at a time, so it disappears on iTunes when you move it to iPod.

stet, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

better not accidentally hit play while it's on your computer then i guess? otherwise you're locked into 1) only watching it on your computer and 2) watching the whole thing within the next 24 hours?

i've seen on other fora a pretty convincing argument that 24 hours is the exact time window to guarantee frustration, i.e. get home from work , fire up apple tv, start watching something that you have to interrupt for whatever reason, think you'll get back to it tomorrow, and realise that it expires at 7pm rather than midnight. even an extra hour would make a difference.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you can still transfer it to another device within the 24 hours, it will just time out on that device when the 24hrs is up.

OTM about 24hrs being frustrating.

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i have a question about time capsule and wifi in general...is all that fast enough? How much longer does it take to back up 1TB over wifi then it would firewire?

dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

They say 802.11n is 160 Mbps or faster, not used it so don't know what the real world speed is, firewire is 400Mbps or 800Mbps theoretical and a lot of drives get close to this. Even Apple say your first backup will take 'overnight', subsequent backups are changes only so will be quicker.

Ed, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

thanks tracer, I'll look into those

czn, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link


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