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Hmm. I've got "The Last Resort," the aforementioned Parr book of seaside vacations etc. and actually like it quite a bit. There's a forward that takes great pains to explain why it was controversial on first publication but that there is no condescension intended and if you look again you'll just see people making the best of a situation and enjoying themselves etc. etc.
I'm not sure if he's off the hook that easily though, since some pictures *seem* to be more grim than the forward wants to admit. But, I mean, it WAS grim, right?
Also, at that point, I don't think it was very punny at all. More like vignettes or portraits.

Yeah looking at the pictures now I don't think they're exactly affectionate, but they don't really seem critical or condescending of the *people* in them to me at least. But the forward really does protest too much.

it's interesting that he addressed it - i don't know that i knew the controversy was so overt. i think you should be able to document that kinda thing sure but i feel like those elements, the colour, the kind of head-on glare, the match of like 'brash' culture with hypersaturated imagery, it feels like it's going to evoke that potential reading. idk. it's funny thinking about them now because i'm looking for comparable touchstones, & thinking of roy andersson, visually, culturally, & mike leigh, tonally & in perspective, both working in movies. i think the photos not being affectionate, & not really locking into any kind of ... infectious or empathisable mood (you know, you aren't seeing the kids & getting a pang from their smiles) maybe means that they're coming across as 'a clinical study of the leisure pursuits of the working classes', which isn't "don't do that" but is sorta "who are you to judge".

ah but the UK has a special way of getting riled up, check the comments section:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040260/Maciej-Dakowicz-Cardiff-After-Dark-binge-drinking-images-turned-Britain-laughing-stock.html

hey schlump thanks man, that wasn't me getting cranky and reacting though because i took what you said before as a compliment but it was just playing on my mind.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/589591535/harold-feinstein-a-retrospective

TOP linked to some really technical but also interesting articles about lens design, this one is probably the most readable

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/01/cooking-with-glass

two others

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/08/lens-geneology-part-1

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/09/lens-genealogy-part-2

into the idea that this image has any kind of rigid, useful, technical purpose:

http://www.pbase.com/rcicala/image/131372155/large.jpg

instead of being like a fun wrapping paper design for lens enthusiasts

dazzle ships!

videos w/ Eugene Richards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR26B3Fws7w

http://lightbox.time.com/2011/03/14/war-becomes-personal-interview-with-eugene-richards-on-capturing-the-aftermath-of-the-iraq-war-at-home/

http://vimeo.com/21893848

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/reminiscence-stepping-through-the-ashes/

this is really, really cool - British documentary photographer/artist who puts her projects online in book form for free. I've never seen the software/website (Issus) she's using for this, but it's pretty awesome - full-screen on my iMac looks great.

http://ameliashepherd.com/silent-voice/

this is neat, http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/photobooth/2011/10/great-mistakes-vanessa-winship.html#entry-more

her black sea series is quite great too

http://www.vanessawinship.com/gallery.php?ProjectID=146

(there are two parts)

yet more great photography from eastern europe. what is it about the place?

great run on TOP today - think you would dig this site, schlump

http://www.katehutchinson.blogspot.com/

ha, TY. definitive moment: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YJrCrmitONQ/TWb-ybpxURI/AAAAAAAAChs/hnUGbCBov1Q/s1600/cats%2B3%2Bdone.jpg

i think that kind of series makes a better argument for the power of photo journals, more than the shots themselves; you get a really nice sense of place through the light & suggestions of routine, etc. still constantly enthralled by unchangingwindow.com for this.

since there was the martin parr discussion itt, which included a link to his meditation on what photographers tend to take photographs of, i find myself thinking about that a lot. partly because i think i got past a stage of taking those deadpan shots of things you walk past and would just want to straight up capture & uncomplicatedly relay - a funny thing on a street, a suggestive juxtaposition of mundane details or w/e - but then partly because i'm still wondering what it could be. like it does feel like you want to capture 'the space between things' somehow in a way that means something.

"space between things" is a very apt phrase, friedlander-esque

lens did a story on nina berman, she has some really great sets

http://www.ninaberman.com/

love megachurches

also, I have never seen this picture before, but goddamn it is moving (the interview, too):

(warning: graphic image)
http://www.salon.com/2007/03/10/berman_photo/

man if you don't check out lens every week then I just don't...

but I gotta link to this

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/24/from-out-of-the-dump-to-the-top-of-the-heap/

heartbreaking + uplifting at the same time. the best eye is sometimes fresh and green.

http://www.everybodystreet.com/

from that, discovered http://www.artcoup.com/

==== amivitale

know i was enthusing about it like four posts ago BUT i get all man if you don't check out [X] every week then I just don't... about unchanging window, & this seems like a kinda exemplary/typically great intro in case anyone isn't checking/hasn't seen, &c. sorta also joins up with: arguments in favour of digital photography, & the thing about what to take photographs of now; she gets something so profound & sensory from details

http://www.unchangingwindow.com/content/?p=15687

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/11/documerica-images-of-america-in-crisis-in-the-1970s/100190/

color film really has come a long way hasn't it? nevertheless love these color shifts and weird white balances

http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/north-korea-leader-kim-jong-il-dies-his-life-in-59-photos.html

http://www.americansuburbx.com/2011/07/garry-winogrand-class-time-with-garry.html

I just can't get enough of these pictures by Ed Panar: http://edpanarchive.tumblr.com/

they really grew on me as i scrolled
this was the first i really liked:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwp5i5XcBA1qehamgo1_500.jpg

http://www.life.com/hdgallery/23295/life-classic-eugene-smiths-country-doctor#index/0

yes

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/18/war-photographers-special-report

I should really stop reading about war photographers, it leaves me gutted every single time.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/17/red-rain-and-loss-in-tokyo/

really great and affecting post, the write-up is as good as the pictures

wow yeah that's awesome. feels skewed to say something technical rather than emotional after reading - because it is so affecting - but it's so well done. i love the photos arranged in fours, they look great.

this guy is awesome btw, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/nyregion/thecity/18abst.html

he is living my dream life (well, I hope he has health insurance)

DP: Can you imagine yourself doing anything other than photography? Is that what feeds you?

HI: I love drinking tea and talking with friends all day. I wish somebody would pay me for that.

DP: If you were not doing what you are doing now, what would you dream to do?

HI: It would be nice to be beautiful and just exist.

http://dianepernet.typepad.com/diane/2009/01/hiroyuki-ito.html

i feel like he has graduated to some next level photographic zen to which i do not have access

gonna go buy some ilford 3200 & see if it helps

I get to allot myself about an hour a day to pretend to be at one with the camera and the city, then I go back to work in my cubicle. It works ok. At least I get that health insurance that way.

looks like he's shooting neopan 400 and/or 1600 xp (just from looking at the tone of the pictures)

yeah i imagine so; i remember some of yours that iirc were pushed from 400 & were getting very stark. i am still not a developer but i guess you have a lil more leeway to go high contrast if you're in the darkroom. he's p out there in blacking out a lot of a shot.

ha:

I've heard his name before. He was an ex-photographer even before he died. Two thumbs down.

ha ha, this is amazing:

HI: I've heard his name before. He was an ex-photographer even before he died. Two thumbs down. For the same reason, Robert Frank and William Klein go down the toilet. These three are quitters. Look at Lee Friedlander or Daido Moriyama who still go out and take obnoxious amounts of bad pictures. They refuse to be canonized but keep shooting. They are, to me, more interesting. But I'll be honest. I love Cartier Bresson. I love Frank and Klein. Who doesn't?

Friedlander is truly the greatest. Loooooove Friedlander.

friedlander and eggleston do that trick of pointing a camera at the most banal thing possible and making it interesting, it's amazing

yeah i imagine so; i remember some of yours that iirc were pushed from 400 & were getting very stark. i am still not a developer but i guess you have a lil more leeway to go high contrast if you're in the darkroom. he's p out there in blacking out a lot of a shot.

― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:32 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

haha yeah - well, delta 3200 was technically designed to get as much shadow detail as possible in low-light situations. neopan 1600, some say, is actually only about 640 in true speed (people peg delta 3200 + tri-x 3200 at around 1000-1200) - I think fuji was aiming to get completely black shadows. dante stella calls it a 'film noir' film iirc

a moot point, since neopan 1600 is dead and 400 is rumored to be so. :(

i just bought a roll of 3200, i was not bullshitting, & it was $$$, but i'd totally forgotten the thing about neopan 1600 being discontinued, damn. i really came around to it when i p much used to just use those two kindsa film.

Neopan 400 seems to be readily available again. I suspect Fuji slowed or stopped production to dry up the relatively cheap supply out there and raise their prices.

Tri-X @ 1250-1600 in Diafine looks good, if you develop at home

pulling for fuji - knew they wouldn't pull neopan 400. my hope is that the devotion japanese camera users have to film will singlehandedly make sure that 35mm film is produced somewhere for the next, hopefully, 10 years. and hopefully, a roll of basic black and white 400 speed film will not exceed $10 a roll.

http://canopycanopycanopy.com/12/looking_fast

http://canopycanopycanopy.com/static/0000/7627/EgglestonField_clean.jpg

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/18/the-heart-of-the-matter-love/