Steve Jobs RIP 1955-2011

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I kind of wonder how the music industry compares to 1990 instead of 2000, because even without the consideration of online distribution and piracy, things were looking incredibly unsustainable by 1999.

( ) (mh), Friday, 7 October 2011 23:10 (ten years ago) link

like, I was considering taking an english teaching job in beijing, which would have paid about 4000 CNY a month. I think 4000 CNY is on the high end of starting salaries for fresh grads, unless you graduated from a top u. I think salaries of 1500-300 are more realistic for fresh grads? that is, if you can even find a job - china is graduating far more people than the job market can handle, is what I've been reading.

dayo, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:11 (ten years ago) link

total engineer behavior xxp

max, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:11 (ten years ago) link

in that article about working at the apple cafeteria, was a little blown away by the 6-figure+ engineers buying exactly $12 worth of soda to extract full value of their meal plan -- total 3rd world behavior, or at least starving college student behavior.

― Philip Nunez, Friday, October 7, 2011 4:09 PM (1 minute ago)

haha, you don't know many engineers, do you?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 7 October 2011 23:12 (ten years ago) link


citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 7 October 2011 23:12 (ten years ago) link

max, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:12 (ten years ago) link

I know a foxconn engineer that was so paranoid about bringing me inside the campus, that he brought our mac burgers OUTSIDE the building to eat.

cafe expose:

Philip Nunez, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:13 (ten years ago) link

I'm a software developer and one of my coworkers admitted that he's had to force himself to stop counting the number of steps to the cafeteria and the number of stoplights on the way to work. He used to know all those numbers off the top of his head.

Engineers: you may not have aspergers symptoms, but you are sure a hell of a lot likely to

( ) (mh), Friday, 7 October 2011 23:14 (ten years ago) link

So I guess Jobs's last public appearance was the Cupertino city council thing where he got approval for the new campus:

I suppose it works as a legacy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:16 (ten years ago) link

thanks! xp

stet, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:16 (ten years ago) link

I keep forgetting about Pixar as well, they've got a tribute up:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:17 (ten years ago) link

and this is just the big 4. smaller labels, retail chains, and mid-level artists have all taken huge hits to their incomes. this is not "reactionary whining" it is a fact.

k, no worries

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:26 (ten years ago) link

I'm friends with the author of that op-ed piece, and his FBook status update is "Received my first sincere, legitimate death threat today."

per metal injection (Eazy), Saturday, 8 October 2011 03:06 (ten years ago) link

I keep forgetting about Pixar as well, they've got a tribute up:

― Ned Raggett, Friday, October 7, 2011 7:17 PM

yo thanks for the heads up -- i hadn't seen that yet

markers, Saturday, 8 October 2011 03:16 (ten years ago) link

(sincerely hadn't seen that yet, surprisingly)

markers, Saturday, 8 October 2011 03:16 (ten years ago) link

love that picture too

markers, Saturday, 8 October 2011 03:16 (ten years ago) link

New Yorker readers trying to be funny in the comments section is soul-crushing

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 8 October 2011 04:09 (ten years ago) link

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een, Saturday, 8 October 2011 04:14 (ten years ago) link

Apple Talked to City's Police Days Before Steve Jobs's Death

Karen Gullo, ©2011 Bloomberg News

Oct. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Apple Inc. security officials met with police in Palo Alto, California, this week to notify them that Steve Jobs was close to death, a spokeswoman with the police department said.

Following the meeting, the police devised a plan to put patrols in the area around the former Apple chief executive officer's Palo Alto home once they heard from the company that he had died, according to Sandra Brown, the spokeswoman.

The Apple representatives told the police department there was "a possibility that it could happen this week," Brown said in a phone interview. "It's common sense for us to work together. If you think about who he was and his contribution to the world, people might come out in masses."

Jobs, who resigned as Apple's CEO on Aug. 24, died Oct. 5, the Cupertino, California-based company said. Jobs, 56, had been diagnosed in 2003 with a neuroendocrine tumor, a rare form of pancreatic cancer, and underwent a liver transplant in 2009. Apple unveiled the latest version of its iPhone, the product that accounts for almost half of the company's sales, on Oct. 4, the day before his death.

Steve Dowling, an Apple spokesman, declined to comment about the police meeting.

Jobs lived in a home that was modest, for a person of his means, on a public street open to pedestrians and traffic. The extra patrols were necessary for safety reasons, Brown said.

'"There are other people here in town, they have compounds and walls," said Brown. "He didn't want to have security around."

Apple was supposed to inform the police of Jobs's death before making a public announcement so the department could prepare, said Brown. Instead, police learned he had died when the company issued a press release at about 4:30 p.m. local time on Oct. 5.

As it turned out, Brown said, only about 40 people showed up around Jobs's home that day.

"Here's a guy who's a billionaire and lives in a regular neighborhood, not behind a gated estate with all the security guards," said Bruce Gee, a former Apple employee who drove up from his home a couple miles away. "On Halloween, people go trick or treating there like everyone else."

Mourners gathered at Apple stores around the world and took to the Internet and social media to express their grief.

At the San Francisco Apple store near Union Square, Steve Streza, 24, stood holding an iPad displaying Apple's homepage image of Jobs and the words "Steve Jobs: 1955-2011."

"Macs were the reason I got into product development," said Streza, a developer at who grew up with Mac computers. "If it weren't for Steve Jobs and Macs, my life would probably be in a completely different place right now."

Read more:

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 8 October 2011 12:34 (ten years ago) link

This is great. A smelly 18-year-old Jobs gets a job at Atari, and nobody can bear to work with him, but they don't want to lose him either so they create a nightshift. He's the only one who works it:

stet, Saturday, 8 October 2011 19:55 (ten years ago) link

saw lots of candles, flowers, little shrines (with actual apples, photos of Jobs, etc), hundreds of handwritten notes, & lots of weepy looking people in front of the apple store on 14th St in Manhattan last night

people need to get a grip

geeta, Saturday, 8 October 2011 20:38 (ten years ago) link

people be lovin their ipads i guess.

weird as somehow who has been using apple products since 1983/84 (still have a photo of me opening the box to my 1st apple iie) i should be first in line, but i dunno the deification of this complex dude seems deeply suspect.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 8 October 2011 20:55 (ten years ago) link

deification of anyone is always suspect imo

Like Iraq (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 October 2011 02:16 (ten years ago) link

I tried to convince you all but no.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 October 2011 03:23 (ten years ago) link

Talkin' about you or Steve Jobs?

Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 9 October 2011 03:25 (ten years ago) link

Me of course. *self-genuflects*

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:33 (ten years ago) link

surprising that it didn't leak out how close he was to death

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 9 October 2011 05:41 (ten years ago) link

sorta figured the answer was "pretty close" when he resigned, but one does not like to attract the Evil Eye by saying such things

,(.__.)/ (silby), Sunday, 9 October 2011 06:04 (ten years ago) link

i don't know if this is the right time and place to say so, but i heard from a friend who's friend worked as his pa for about 6 months (source was actual first name basis friends with the pa himself, so genuine 2nd gen silicon valley network info iirc) that he was extremely hard to work with.

on the other hand, osx, iphones, pixar, personal computers even... maybe i kinda don't care if he was hard to get along with. dude contributed some real genius to the world, and it's appreciated. RIP.

i hope the bioflick captures some of that dichotomy though, it would make the story more interesting. and frankly, genius-world-changers are kinda entitled to a bit of a pass on the social graces thing imho.

messiahwannabe, Sunday, 9 October 2011 07:38 (ten years ago) link

nah, he's rotting in hell next to mother theresa and pol pot

lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:26 (ten years ago) link

wired: "As a child of the sixties who was nurtured in Silicon Valley, his career merged the two strains in a way that reimagined business itself. And he did it as if he didn’t give a damn who he pissed off. He could bully underlings and corporate giants with the same contempt. But when he chose to charm, he was almost irresistible."

seriously, it's always nicer when our geniuses are personable, but... dude. toy story! ipods! etc etc

messiahwannabe, Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:28 (ten years ago) link

as opposed to hp toshiba etc?

more from wired: "Jobs also took LSD in those years, and would claim that those experiences affected his outlook permanently and positively"

him and bill gates both!

messiahwannabe, Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:34 (ten years ago) link

idk about you guys but isn't it kind of convenient that he died just when these wall street protests are making headlines?

Steve Jobs. Jobs Vets ET. Votes Jebs...hmmm

lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:35 (ten years ago) link

Apple Iphone

Help A Popin

Who is this mysterious A. Popin?

lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:38 (ten years ago) link

oh wait HELP A POPE IN

lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:39 (ten years ago) link

stop drinking

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:50 (ten years ago) link

don't you mean "drink different"

lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:53 (ten years ago) link

think different, stop using adverbs

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 9 October 2011 08:54 (ten years ago) link

It's amazing how sticky "Think Different" has been, for a shortish campaign in 97. You'd think it was hammered home for decades, like "Just Do It".

stet, Sunday, 9 October 2011 10:16 (ten years ago) link

since this is the thread where it's getting the most play, good overview of apple's environmental harms in china

In her letter, Beinecke reminded Cook of the large number of problems listed in the IPE report – problems which need urgent attention. Examples include factories “chronically out of compliance” with environmental regulations, with as many as 10 or more violations; factories discharging toxic metals such as copper and nickel at levels that breach international safety standards; factories ignoring the health concerns of local communities; and problems with disposal of hazardous waste.

She stressed that the IPE report and Apple’s own audits had reached the same conclusion. According to “Apple’s Supplier Responsibility 2011 Progress Report”, many suppliers were found to be in severe breach of environmental laws – 80 of 127 factories had not properly stored or handled hazardous chemicals; 41 did not recycle or dispose of hazardous waste properly or as required by law; 37 did not monitor and control air emissions, and more than 10 had wastewater problems; 63 did not have the permits required by government authorities, including approval of their environmental impact assessments.


Beinecke pointed out that a crucial and prominent failing in Apple’s existing policies is that they focus on auditing tier one – final assembly – suppliers. “Although this step in the supply chain is often labour-heavy, it seldom is where the largest environmental footprint in the supply chain lies,” she wrote in her letter to Cook. On the contrary, tier two and tier three suppliers, the companies that manufacture components such as printed circuit boards (PCBs), are where many of the environmental problems have been found.

One supplier, who preferred to remain anonymous, told National Business Daily that the high density PCBs used in iPhones and iPads require a lot of power and water to manufacture, as well as large quantities of chemicals for etching the laminate. The process results in large quantities of air and water pollution, and environmental violations can easily occur.

Apple's report is here:

2001: a based godyssey (dayo), Sunday, 9 October 2011 12:07 (ten years ago) link

b-b-but they look so SLEEK!

btw i have to admit that apple's coopting of einstein mandela etc etc for that campaign was pretty fucking gross

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 9 October 2011 12:11 (ten years ago) link

excerpt from a documentary about foxconn workers.

conditions at foxconn not quite as bad as the media made it out to be. but still heartbreaking. I can't quite bring myself to condemn foxconn. life is hard, terrible in China if you are poor.

2001: a based godyssey (dayo), Sunday, 9 October 2011 13:29 (ten years ago) link

lol, I assume that includes being rude to people and rejecting philanthropy

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 October 2011 00:32 (ten years ago) link

holding public philanthropy up as an absolute necessity kind of devalues the concept, dontcha think?

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Monday, 10 October 2011 00:47 (ten years ago) link

joeks bruv

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Monday, 10 October 2011 00:50 (ten years ago) link

twitter is a treat

Just signed up for a small race next year #LiveLikeSteve

Live like Steve "Ironman" Jobs

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Monday, 10 October 2011 00:51 (ten years ago) link

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