Steve Jobs RIP 1955-2011

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btw this is v good if it is actually substantive:

http://www.triplepundit.com/2011/04/apple-intel-cease-conflict-minerals/

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 06:45 (twelve years ago) link

trent reznor: http://twitter.com/#!/trent_reznor/status/121788588986859521

markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 06:58 (twelve years ago) link

Damn. Says a lot about how much of the world he changed that BBC obit didn't even get round to mentioning Pixar, the company that swallowed Disney.

He basically saved Pixar from going bust right at the start and was still quite involved with them afaik.

kinder, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link

tamtam makes a reasonable point about how it's strange a lot of people think like they know him but for me at least that's mostly due to the keynotes. e.g. i'm not sure i've ever seen bill gates speak for more than a couple of sentences. i think i followed pretty much every keynote from his return to apple until a couple of years ago.

also here's 81 anecdotes about steve jobs from the mac launch era http://www.folklore.org/ProjectView.py?project=Macintosh&characters=Steve%20Jobs&detail=medium. great site.

caek, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

I believe that Pixar DVD cases are made in China tho, and its films are advertised. XP

stet, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:07 (twelve years ago) link

also nextstep was amazing and completely insane and at least half the the reason all of your OS X macs are so pleasant to use.

still lols at nextcube

caek, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:09 (twelve years ago) link

Not long before Steve Jobs’ second coming to Apple in 1996 he was giving a talk to The Stanford Graduate School of Business’ High Tech Club at the home of a student. For three hours he sat in the lotus position on the floor in front of the living-room fireplace answering questions good-naturedly. Afterwards, the host, a young MBA candidate named Steve Jurvetson, asked the legendary figure to autograph his Macintosh keyboard which had already been signed by Apple cofounder Steve Woznyak.
Steve Jobs said he’d do it, but only if first he could remove all the unnecessary keys that his successors had added in a foolish effort to make the Mac more like a Microsoft-Intel PC. He despised the long row of so-called function keys (like “F1”) and the cluster of navigational arrow keys which were clunky alternatives to the more intuitive process of using a mouse to explore menus and icons. So Jobs pulled his car keys out of his pocket and began scooping into the computer keyboard, violently disgorging all the keys that offended him. “I’m changing the world one keyboard at a time”, he said with a straight face. Only then when he had mutilated the apparatus, did he take a pen and scribble his autograph on it.

(just as a side note - here's that very keyboard - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/841771/ - Jurvetson's photos are nearly always interesting)

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:22 (twelve years ago) link

i heard that if hitler were alive today he would use some apple products

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:23 (twelve years ago) link

Kinda nice:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6162/6216694440_0937aa3c97_b.jpg

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:35 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that is nice

markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:35 (twelve years ago) link

looks like the agile development strategy at my old work

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://yfrog.com/z/h8spqpknj

stet, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:47 (twelve years ago) link

that @gen1usbart4l3s is doing some hardcore mourning for this jobs bloke

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:49 (twelve years ago) link

http://t.co/A6hQBMqM

stet, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:52 (twelve years ago) link

Steve Jobs is the greatest entrepreneur who ever lived. He took his company from two guys in a garage to the highest valued company on the planet - I don't see how that will ever be surpassed. There are a handful of other business figures who can truly be considered "celebrities" - Bill Gates, Donald Trump, maybe Warren Buffet - but none that so many people felt a personal connection to. The products and services he conceived and helped bring about are a daily part of our lives.

The news of his passing will hit many people harder than that of major political figures or entertainers. It wouldn't surprise me if the Apple flagship stores are covered with flowers and notes running halfway up the glass by this evening (hope the renovations are finished at NYC/5th Ave).

Lee626, Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link

lol he would have loved this use of comic sans

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/10/infinate-jobs-mourn619.jpg

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link

dunno who Lee626 is but i sb'd u anyway

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

lol i forgot about sb ffs

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

xxp, more a marker felt guy iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0SVBCJqLs

caek, Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

xp I expect to be sb'd because of my musical tastes, but not because I recognise SJ for who he really was. How many of us learned of his death on an iPhone?

Lee626, Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

I read about it on a Samsung Galaxy S that wouldn't look the way it did without the iPhone I guess, so um yeah

StanM, Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:10 (twelve years ago) link

messiahphone

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

max that brian lam post was great, thanks for linking. lol at

He replied, "You're just doing your job." And he said it in the kindest way possible. Which made me feel better and worse.

caek, Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

gonna watch pirates of silicon valley this weekend i think

caek, Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

Is there something in this "they called it 4S = for Steve" rumor?

StanM, Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

We can’t say for sure that Steve would still be alive and making lives better were it not for the alternative therapy, but the statistics suggest it very strongly.
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2011/10/05/a-lesson-in-treating-illness/

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

there is zero public information about the alternative or conventional treatment he had, other than a liver transplant.

caek, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

Massive article on Jobs' life at The Register -

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/06/steve_jobs_bio_1/

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

part one (11 pages)

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

126 footnotes

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

so sorry I lolled at this :-(

http://i53.tinypic.com/nz0g49.png

StanM, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:18 (twelve years ago) link

They sure didn't write that on an iPad. xp

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:18 (twelve years ago) link

idgi xp

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

the iPhone camera used to have this weird bug - there's a whole iPhone Cubism flickr group and everything

StanM, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

ah

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

e.g. http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuniochi/2987523875/in/pool-878850@N22/

StanM, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

ooer that is weird

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/SCoJ0.png

(╯° □ °)╯did ✈ ▌▌ (cozen), Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

Uh, you're seriously undercutting the fact that he shrunk computers down from the size of a whole room to something you can put on a desk (and now, in your pocket).

Without Apple rescuing PARC's work on WIMP GUIs from obscurity computers today might look pretty different, and obviously you can't sit on a bus without being within 4 seats of someone pawing at an iPhone, but the above is not really true imo.

The Altair 8800 predated the Apple I, but it doesn't look much like an 80s microcomputer. Think the Commodore PET and possibly the TRS-80 were in development before the world had seen a finished Apple I though. And in Europe throughout the 80s, where nobody could afford Apple, home micros based more on the PET model than on Apple (at least until the 16-bit era brought mice and GUIs into teenage bedrooms) did extremely well.

Feel similarly abt the posts abt "home recording on a computer exists solely bcz of Apple" (because of ProTools' decision to work only with G5 hard disks and Apple buying out Logic?) - given the Atari ST's ubiquity in recording studios in the 80s/90s, before Macs had any studio-level music software, that was probably another revolution that was going to happen anyway

Anyhow, dude was a v shrewd entrepreneur who obviously changed the face of the modern tech-gadget market, and RIP anyone who dies of cancer when they should have so much of their life still ahead of them, of course. Don't want to be a hater, just don't agree that this guy singlehandedly invented everything in computing after 1960. Carry on...

how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link

Atari was obv a big mac competitor in the music world...being very similar plus having the MIDI ports, and was more ubiquitous in the UK then it ever was in the US, but Macs with studio level software predate pro-tools. Look at the roots of Digidesign and see things like Sound Designer and Audiomedia cards. Did Atari's ever get advanced enough to handle sample processing, which predated direct to disc recording? And direct to disc's arrival when Vision turned into Studio Vision and later Performer into Digital Performer? Macs dominated the studio world before they bought Logic, due to Digidesign, but had and still have major competitors in the PC world. Especially with audio mastering.

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

just don't agree that this guy singlehandedly invented everything in computing after 1960.

Yeah, the truth lies somewhere between here and "lol he just made really good ads for toys wtf u care abt doggie"

But the difference he made is really huge. Didn't nec. invent, but totally changed: the desktop computer, gui computing, networked computing (plus the web was invented on a Jobs machine), web programming, digital music (despite starting at the back), the music industry, cell phones, digital photography and tablet computing. Oh, and computer animation while he was at it.

If someone thinks this was all just snappy ads w/dancing people, they high

stet, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link

Counter point to the Skeptoid link above: http://www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link

He wouldn't have meant anything if Al Gore hadn't invented ~the internet~ tho

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.somethingawful.com/u/elpintogrande/oct11/steve_jobs2.gif

ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'd say there's an interesting narrative that certain industries which used GUI's' due to the necessity of the work, even before Macs became ubiquitous, were less tied to Apple the brand. In the music world you had things like Fairlight's with light pens. In CAD and drafting, people were using Mice on PC's well before Windows took over the PC interface world, and those are industries that didn't require using a Mac. For years and years the only people I knew in creative fields who deliberately chose a PC over a Mac were because of architectural and drafting options.

At some point the software certainly drives the hardware, like in Audio Mastering which I still see as predominantly PC, I think because of Steinberg and Sony making the preferred software and making it for PCs. (Steinberg's software was on the Mac as well but it wasn't as good). Same thing with Autocad. I think you have certain professions where the software is installed on a studio machine that's used for that one purpose, so it never mattered how useful or friendly it is for anything else.

But in desktop publishing...forget about it. Apple and Aldus and Adobe changed that world, wiped out entire industries and is still predominant. And in a lot of cases you get "creatives" who were drawn to Macs because they were easier to use and more beautiful and thats where the tools were. By the time the tools were the same on both sides, they were entrenched Apple users. Where the technical experts were, you have people not using Macs for two reasons...they weren't powerful enough or they were too expensive. For years all the design work was done on Macintosh computers but the computers that did the processing at the end were often workstations from Silicon Graphics or Sun or beefed up PCs. Same with animation and film. It wasn't until relatively recently that Macs, or really any "home" computer, were powerful enough to do this stuff.

I think publishing kept Apple in business. Even in the darkest days of the company, when the computers sucked and were too expensive and nobody was buying them for their kids or their homes, advertising and printing and publishing was still 99% Macintosh. At that point though, I think it was a lot of "creatives" who were designers first, computer people second(or third...or not at all) and even if you told them Quark looked and acted the same on a PC as on a Mac, they were not going to switch to Windows.

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

And I think people who make fun of NeXT computers often don't understand the workstation market, that it existed, and that it was dying.

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:59 (twelve years ago) link


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