Steve Jobs RIP 1955-2011

(Also, don't see where TamTam said that he was glad Jobs is dead.)

sean parker: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150348392138293

(I do see TamTam being generally snarky about Jobs's death.)

steve jobs never gave a dime to charity except for 250k to the dems to fund lobbyists so his "suicide factories" in asia could remain up. now he's literally in hell, where he can never again yell at another lackey for bringing him his soy latte in the wrong type of container. this is a net good for the world

Back when it was two guys in a garage, Jobs was most certainly inventing shit.

Because there is all the time and all the space in the world to criticize somebody,and while a RIP thread isn't quite equivalent to a wake, it's not the place to drag out grievances.

If not here, where? Should we revive some old Steve Jobs thread to make those points? This is the one where the conversation is happening.

My iPhone won't hard reset =(

(Btw, thanks, Jon -- I guess I missed that post.)

Sorry, I still don't get why RIP threads are supposed to be these special sacrosanct places.

Because people generally start RIP threads because they were affected by the subject for one reason or another. I mean, I get it being a public forum etc etc blah blah but I don't ever think its agl to shit on someone in a RIP thread and I'd never do it myself.

Next time I see a funeral in a public cemetery, I'm gonna run up and shout "HA! THAT GUY KINDA SUCKED ANYWAY". After I get chased down and beat to shit, I'll shrug and say, "what's the big deal? he didn't affect me personally".

Guys, we have a thread for this

Rolling 2011 Celeb Death Snark Safety Thread

you can always tell when j/v/c is hyperventilating by the presence of f-bombs in his posts

And yes, Jobs absolutely was inventing things, hands-on at first, and as a leader of Apple later. I don't recall Macbooks gathering dust on shelves in 1980 until Jobs figured out how to make them seem hip.

xp - John, this really feels like old-school "I don't get this obvious thing" jaymc stuff.

I mean, I'm being ridiculous of course, but still. Personally I don't see the appeal of shitting on an RIP thread started in good faith by someone who was generally affected by someone, no matter how trivially.

didnt this dude just steal all his ideas from xerox anyway?

was going to 'troll' in the sense that i think his co. is a monstrosity but w/e

Because people generally start RIP threads because they were affected by the subject for one reason or another

Is that really true? I don't recall if I've ever started an RIP thread, but if I have, it's b/c it was news and there was interesting stuff to talk about.

I'm glad there's this notion of me always like angrily pounding away, but I'm pretty chill here and holding my newborn son and not grieving. Just don't get the need to be snarky on a RIP thread. That's all. I'll let you guys be.

lol at "this is a net good for the world". sort of awkward when you consider his 13 year old daughter.

Frank Perdue RIP

how is it inappropriate to point out that steve jobs isn't davinci?

― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:36 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean maybe if steve jobs actually invented a bunch of shit instead of just marketing it to people

― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:37 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

He had a greater direct impact on more people than nearly everyone else who's had an RIP thread

saying its good is different from saying im glad

if people get to talk about what a great man he was, then i get to call him an asshole (and i backed it up more than the Great Man crowd)

Because people generally start RIP threads because they were affected by the subject for one reason or another. I mean, I get it being a public forum etc etc blah blah but I don't ever think its agl to shit on someone in a RIP thread and I'd never do it myself.

Robert McNamara - RIP

xp - John, this really feels like old-school "I don't get this obvious thing" jaymc stuff.

You're right, I truly don't get how people can be so affected by a celebrity's death that snark and criticism and contrarian views are in any way bothersome. But people have said that they are indeed affected like that, so I'll drop it.

I mean fuck it, you can walk from one end of a street to the other and see 0 American presidents, 0 liberated countries, 0 cured diseases and 600 iphone ads xxp

he had a direct impact on millions of poor people he didn't help with his lack of giving money away

Notice I said "generally" guys, but good job digging up old threads.

just out of curiosity, do y'all shit on henry ford too while riding to work?

(edit for the mass transit minded: do y'all shit on george stephenson while riding to work?)

I see a bunch of american presidents every time I turn my trouser pocket inside out

I've had American presidents in my pocket for two weeks of my whole life fwiw

henry ford created death machines, was a nazi

Steve Jobs: not a nazi!

qed

Steve Jobs is loved by fiscal conservatives

I think there is good evidence that steve jobs is not a nazi, otoh the cult of apple is probably comparable to early stages of nazi era germany

Occupy Steve Jobs

hank ford was pretty philanthropic though

John, the thing is, "You knew it was a snake when you picked it up," isn't the point. We expect people to be assholes in RIP threads, but that doesn't excuse them or make it less appropriate to point out that they are being assholes.

being sad that this greedy megalomaniac died is what makes you an asshole imo

Sent from my iPhone

― my other display name is my facebook status (Lamp)

fuck yeah IPHONE ADS

this changed my world for the better

"Burt Miller, 56, was on his way to a San Francisco Apple store to pick up some replacement parts when his wife called to tell him that Mr. Jobs had died. He said he was crushed. Mr. Miller, who works in construction, said he had followed the presentation of the new iPhone the day before and was convinced that Mr. Jobs had too. “I think he saw it and knew Apple was going to make it and he let go.”

Matt Richtel and Somini Sengupta contributed reporting."

steve jobs didn't invent shit, wozniak did all of the tech

maybe steve jobs invented the job title "UI designer"

I'm not *sad* but I'm not celebrating, either. I mean for Christ's sake, I thought it was disgusting when people were cheering when Osama Bin Laden was killed.

xp to Lamp

even he gave to charity, tho

Granted, hating on Steve Jobs isn't quite on par with Alfred's classic shittiness on Bimble's thread, but still, it's pretty self-centered and self-important to think that your voice of dissent - in the form of repeating glaringly obvious fault of the deceased - must be heard when the corpse is hardly even cold yet. Death and cancer fucking suck, no matter who is dead. All I am pushing for is that people have a little class for a really short time and STFU in honor of a dead human being.

what is this ethical principle that states that if you are obscenely rich you are obliged to memorialize yourself through grandiose displays of largesse?

yeah this thread would be really interesting if it was a bunch of people reposting "RIP" xp

fuck yeah IPHONE ADS

this changed my world for the better

― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:52 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not the point I was making

Actually, the traditional standard for many centuries was to distribute one's largesse quietly, with as little display as possible. Anonymously was always a good approach.

if I ever become obscenely wealthy I will discharge my fortune by anonymously erecting massive steel monoliths all across america

that's basically what steve jobs did, he just put an apple logo on em