Being glad someone died /= "criticism", fyi.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
how is it inappropriate to point out that steve jobs isn't davinci?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
i mean maybe if steve jobs actually invented a bunch of shit instead of just marketing it to people
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
steve jobs was jesus in that case
― omar little, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, I still don't get why RIP threads are supposed to be these special sacrosanct places.
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
(Also, don't see where TamTam said that he was glad Jobs is dead.)
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
sean parker: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150348392138293
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
(I do see TamTam being generally snarky about Jobs's death.)
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
steve jobs never gave a dime to charity except for 250k to the dems to fund lobbyists so his "suicide factories" in asia could remain up. now he's literally in hell, where he can never again yell at another lackey for bringing him his soy latte in the wrong type of container. this is a net good for the world
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
Back when it was two guys in a garage, Jobs was most certainly inventing shit.
― Aimless, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
Because there is all the time and all the space in the world to criticize somebody,and while a RIP thread isn't quite equivalent to a wake, it's not the place to drag out grievances.
― Je55e, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
If not here, where? Should we revive some old Steve Jobs thread to make those points? This is the one where the conversation is happening.
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
My iPhone won't hard reset =(
― i'm not trolling btw (admrl), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
(Btw, thanks, Jon -- I guess I missed that post.)
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
Because people generally start RIP threads because they were affected by the subject for one reason or another. I mean, I get it being a public forum etc etc blah blah but I don't ever think its agl to shit on someone in a RIP thread and I'd never do it myself.
Next time I see a funeral in a public cemetery, I'm gonna run up and shout "HA! THAT GUY KINDA SUCKED ANYWAY". After I get chased down and beat to shit, I'll shrug and say, "what's the big deal? he didn't affect me personally".
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
Guys, we have a thread for this
Rolling 2011 Celeb Death Snark Safety Thread
― the ┬──┬ is the ┬──┬ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
you can always tell when j/v/c is hyperventilating by the presence of f-bombs in his posts
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
And yes, Jobs absolutely was inventing things, hands-on at first, and as a leader of Apple later. I don't recall Macbooks gathering dust on shelves in 1980 until Jobs figured out how to make them seem hip.
xp - John, this really feels like old-school "I don't get this obvious thing" jaymc stuff.
― Je55e, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, I'm being ridiculous of course, but still. Personally I don't see the appeal of shitting on an RIP thread started in good faith by someone who was generally affected by someone, no matter how trivially.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
didnt this dude just steal all his ideas from xerox anyway?
was going to 'troll' in the sense that i think his co. is a monstrosity but w/e
― my other display name is my facebook status (Lamp), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
Because people generally start RIP threads because they were affected by the subject for one reason or another
Is that really true? I don't recall if I've ever started an RIP thread, but if I have, it's b/c it was news and there was interesting stuff to talk about.
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
I'm glad there's this notion of me always like angrily pounding away, but I'm pretty chill here and holding my newborn son and not grieving. Just don't get the need to be snarky on a RIP thread. That's all. I'll let you guys be.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol at "this is a net good for the world". sort of awkward when you consider his 13 year old daughter.
― sonderborg, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
Frank Perdue RIP
― i'm not trolling btw (admrl), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
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He had a greater direct impact on more people than nearly everyone else who's had an RIP thread
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
saying its good is different from saying im glad
if people get to talk about what a great man he was, then i get to call him an asshole (and i backed it up more than the Great Man crowd)
Robert McNamara - RIP
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
You're right, I truly don't get how people can be so affected by a celebrity's death that snark and criticism and contrarian views are in any way bothersome. But people have said that they are indeed affected like that, so I'll drop it.
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
I mean fuck it, you can walk from one end of a street to the other and see 0 American presidents, 0 liberated countries, 0 cured diseases and 600 iphone ads xxp
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
he had a direct impact on millions of poor people he didn't help with his lack of giving money away
― iatee, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
Notice I said "generally" guys, but good job digging up old threads.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
just out of curiosity, do y'all shit on henry ford too while riding to work?
(edit for the mass transit minded: do y'all shit on george stephenson while riding to work?)
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
I see a bunch of american presidents every time I turn my trouser pocket inside out
― i'm not trolling btw (admrl), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
I've had American presidents in my pocket for two weeks of my whole life fwiw
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
henry ford created death machines, was a nazi
― iatee, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
Steve Jobs: not a nazi!
― (silby), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
qed
Steve Jobs is loved by fiscal conservatives
― i'm not trolling btw (admrl), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
I think there is good evidence that steve jobs is not a nazi, otoh the cult of apple is probably comparable to early stages of nazi era germany
― iatee, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
Occupy Steve Jobs
― i'm not trolling btw (admrl), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
hank ford was pretty philanthropic though
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
John, the thing is, "You knew it was a snake when you picked it up," isn't the point. We expect people to be assholes in RIP threads, but that doesn't excuse them or make it less appropriate to point out that they are being assholes.
being sad that this greedy megalomaniac died is what makes you an asshole imo
― my other display name is my facebook status (Lamp), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
Sent from my iPhone
― my other display name is my facebook status (Lamp)
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
fuck yeah IPHONE ADS
this changed my world for the better
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
"Burt Miller, 56, was on his way to a San Francisco Apple store to pick up some replacement parts when his wife called to tell him that Mr. Jobs had died. He said he was crushed. Mr. Miller, who works in construction, said he had followed the presentation of the new iPhone the day before and was convinced that Mr. Jobs had too. “I think he saw it and knew Apple was going to make it and he let go.”
Matt Richtel and Somini Sengupta contributed reporting."
― iatee, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link
steve jobs didn't invent shit, wozniak did all of the tech
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
maybe steve jobs invented the job title "UI designer"
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not *sad* but I'm not celebrating, either. I mean for Christ's sake, I thought it was disgusting when people were cheering when Osama Bin Laden was killed.
xp to Lamp
― Je55e, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
even he gave to charity, tho
― iatee, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:59 (twelve years ago) link
Granted, hating on Steve Jobs isn't quite on par with Alfred's classic shittiness on Bimble's thread, but still, it's pretty self-centered and self-important to think that your voice of dissent - in the form of repeating glaringly obvious fault of the deceased - must be heard when the corpse is hardly even cold yet. Death and cancer fucking suck, no matter who is dead. All I am pushing for is that people have a little class for a really short time and STFU in honor of a dead human being.
― Je55e, Thursday, 6 October 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link