Steve Jobs RIP 1955-2011

Uh, you're seriously undercutting the fact that he shrunk computers down from the size of a whole room to something you can put on a desk (and now, in your pocket).

1. Most computers and gadgets have not been made by the same dude for most of the time that computer gadgets have existed.
2. The dude died at 56 of fucking pancreatic cancer. This is something worth being upset about.

i dunno, man -- we go thru this in pretty much every RIP thread -- some ppl care about stuff others of us don't care about

i think it's pretty obvious why steve jobs was an idol to a lot of ppl, and when an idol of yours dies, it can be emotional for a bit there, even if the person is mega rich

that's why i noted that this is deeply sad for his family, silby

possible age gap thing going on here though. I am guessing that people who became adults before computers became ubiquitous are more greatly affected than those for whom the pre-computer age ended before they hit high school - just a guess tho I don't mean that in a "you whippersnappers" way or anything

ffs you chowderheads. toys? the guy basically gave us the computers we are using to dismiss him RIGHT NOW, even if they're running windows and even if he did rip the bulk off it off the parc guys.

I make music, CAD. Apple's technology impacts what I do every damn day. For the better.

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i use the phone every day and i can otm this post!

it's just a little weird that ppl feel so strongly about a guy whose job was making computers and gadgets that were a bit nicer than everyone else's computers and gadgets!

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:15 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

computers are pretty fucking amazing, they have changed the world A LOT, this guy had a hand in inventing and popularizing many of the things that we consider to just be inherent computerness, the whole story is on some level a testament to the power of mind

man nytimes story + ad seeming incongruous atm

http://i.imgur.com/qE6dD.png

aero's comments going sadly unnoticed here, but yeah, dude's products literally changed the way a major, major industry conducts its work.

RIP, no one should die of cancer this young and leave behind such a young family.

amateurist also totally otm

i don't think we need to start objectively outlining which CEOs are worth caring about and which aren't

when the CEO of exxon mobil dies i'm not really going to give a shit, even tho i use a car and a stove -- i don't think this is hard to grasp

ice cr?m and aero relentlessly otm here and i have never been an apple dude at all. this is just history we're talking.

yeah idk arguing about this just seems like nagl. Obviously everybody has some threshold for when a death affects them; if we were sad about everyone who died we'd all be sad all the time.

idk I also feel like, can we not use the death of a famous person to take the moral high ground here? especially when we are all posting from computers that are made in china?

Like, people can record an entire, releasable album on a fucking iPad. That's pretty major. The existence of ProTools made possible editing choices that Les Paul could only dream of when he ordered that 8-track machine from Ampex.

Cheap labour is why there's a burgeoning middle class in so many developing countries. In places like India and China it's now possible for more people to achieve a relatively decent standard of living. I'm not attributing this to Jobs btw. And before I get attacked, understand that this is merely a counterpoint; there's no black & white when it comes to the effects of industry in developing countries.

no moral high ground. it's a complex legacy because there is an inventor/visionary piece and there's a major, important business piece too. i don't think there's a problem with noting them both.

ffs, a dude died, he did a lot of awesome shit, he also did some of this bad shit

possible age gap thing going on here though. I am guessing that people who became adults before computers became ubiquitous are more greatly affected than those for whom the pre-computer age ended before they hit high school - just a guess tho I don't mean that in a "you whippersnappers" way or anything

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, October 5, 2011

OTM, also coming of age pre/post ipod

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/05/stay-hungry-stay-foolish/ <-- good speech (I skimmed it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

oh it's been quoted itt, nm xp

btw also PIXAR

4 real

i am old enough to remember not having computers in middle school - at home or at school - and i feel bad that jobs died because he was an amazing businessman, but even though i own three macs, two iphones, an ipod and an ipad i find it hard to say i couldn't live w/o this stuff

that counts for at least like, 50,000 underpaid chinese workers

http://i.imgur.com/KWjuG.png

Not long before Steve Jobs’ second coming to Apple in 1996 he was giving a talk to The Stanford Graduate School of Business’ High Tech Club at the home of a student. For three hours he sat in the lotus position on the floor in front of the living-room fireplace answering questions good-naturedly. Afterwards, the host, a young MBA candidate named Steve Jurvetson, asked the legendary figure to autograph his Macintosh keyboard which had already been signed by Apple cofounder Steve Woznyak.

Steve Jobs said he’d do it, but only if first he could remove all the unnecessary keys that his successors had added in a foolish effort to make the Mac more like a Microsoft-Intel PC. He despised the long row of so-called function keys (like “F1”) and the cluster of navigational arrow keys which were clunky alternatives to the more intuitive process of using a mouse to explore menus and icons. So Jobs pulled his car keys out of his pocket and began scooping into the computer keyboard, violently disgorging all the keys that offended him. “I’m changing the world one keyboard at a time”, he said with a straight face. Only then when he had mutilated the apparatus, did he take a pen and scribble his autograph on it.

stories like this always remind me of the zen assholes thread.

I am old enough to remember not having computers AT ALL, and I cannot imagine living a life without them.

speaking of ceo/founder deaths, i have to admit that when glen "taco" bell died in 2010 i shed a tear.

kinda miffed that steve jobs gets his own thread but the guy who invented doritos only gets a threadbump.

also anyone saying they could "live without computers" should just put their money where their mouth is and grow a ted kaczynski beard already

notice i didn't say "computers"

i still think you secretly want to grow that beard

i think i could live without doritos, if cool ranch could be transferred to another snack.

its more the concept of 'cool ranch' that im into

at my orientation on the first day of college they told us what buildings the unabomber was targeting

guys the dorito guy just ripped off cool ranch from the r&d department at pringles

does pringles have prior art they can show?

marco arment: http://www.marco.org/2011/10/05/steve-jobs-dies

who is markers arment

and markers... how is it that you haven't posted... you know

otm

can't believe sarah palin and steve jobs died on the same day--what are the odds

100%

guys sarah palin just stole her personality from the r&d department at omni consumer products

Yah, she ran on iOS 3.0, was really time for her to go.

obama: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/05/president-obama-passing-steve-jobs-he-changed-way-each-us-sees-world

http://i.imgur.com/aNrla.png

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