Steve Jobs RIP 1955-2011

oh, sorry - it's old, but they're retweeting it.

have to take issue w/everyone h8ing on bills commencement speech, sure the one sentance everyones harping on is p boilerplate carpe diem but the other sentences surrounding it re the totality of death are well more real and otm than yr standard fare

My guess is that Bill Gates has a lot more skeletons in his closet he feels the need to make up for. Jobs always just seemed in it for the innovation. The money was gravy. The day-to-day operations of the company were of little concern. His passion was in r&d and pushing technology forward. Now you may not appreciate his idea of "forward," but I honestly don't believe he was sitting in his ceo suite rubbing his fingers together like Monty Burns cracking a smile at the poor Taiwanese workers that were piecing together iMacs.

love those guys (xp)

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The day-to-day operations of the company were of little concern.

as a ceo, he was responsible and accountable for every activity that his company undertook. this is rupert murdoch's line of defense btw!

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsmcs7jHVT1qapxtvo1_500.jpg

btw this is SUPER dated and sometimes almost avert-your-eyes hokey, but this was my introduction to all these dorks way back when. it's actually a pretty interesting look at dude's place in the industry after the ouster but before the whole iwhatever thing brought him back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jV3JdtaOGc

Basically saying the document looks forged?

"The day-to-day operations of the company were of little concern."

the cafeteria and the food they served when he came back to apple offended him, so the next day he fired them all, and now they make an awesome and cheap vegan burger -- this dude was hands-on when he wanted to be.

::sigh:: i know why ppl feel *emotional* about this but i won't be holding my breath for the next outpouring of grief for the ceo of a top 50 company in the fortune 500 and that tells me all i need to know.

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

what does it tell you?

I wonder if they were actually friends or just facebook friends

OK that's a good one: obviously the guy who donated 10 or 20 billion toward improving the world is hiding his dark side

what does it tell you?

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:08 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that people will believe whatever suits them

What a revelation!

man I just wanted to post "" in my facebook but it wouldn't let me

fuck you facebook

Fine. I've got one life, maybe 80 or so years to live it, and then I'm gone. Believing what I want to believe makes no fucking difference in how the world actually turns. xps

that people will believe whatever suits them

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:09 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark

idk, i have no problem separating steve jobs from the CEOs of exxon & wells fargo

^ this

this really doesn't have to be an either/or thing yall

FWIW, Foxconn also assembles PlayStations, Wiis, and computers for HP and Dell, so everyone that uses electronics is to blame.

or from bill gates, shit

the man was a great inventor who made a lot of people's lives easier & better -- the fact that he was mega rich seems immaterial to me

I feel how I felt when Kon Satoshi died, I don't think CEO-ness or mega-rich-ness enters into it.

idk I feel like I'm reminded of cheap labor in asia every time I use my laptop, every time I tie my shows, every time I put on a shirt. seems weird to harp on that itt.

jobs was CEO of a toy company that 10% or more of the first world uses. exxon CEOs manage a basic industrial resource that at least 50% of the world relies on. bad analogy.

it's just a little weird that ppl feel so strongly about a guy whose job was making computers and gadgets that were a bit nicer than everyone else's computers and gadgets!

I make music, CAD. Apple's technology impacts what I do every damn day. For the better.

Uh, you're seriously undercutting the fact that he shrunk computers down from the size of a whole room to something you can put on a desk (and now, in your pocket).

1. Most computers and gadgets have not been made by the same dude for most of the time that computer gadgets have existed.
2. The dude died at 56 of fucking pancreatic cancer. This is something worth being upset about.

i dunno, man -- we go thru this in pretty much every RIP thread -- some ppl care about stuff others of us don't care about

i think it's pretty obvious why steve jobs was an idol to a lot of ppl, and when an idol of yours dies, it can be emotional for a bit there, even if the person is mega rich

that's why i noted that this is deeply sad for his family, silby

possible age gap thing going on here though. I am guessing that people who became adults before computers became ubiquitous are more greatly affected than those for whom the pre-computer age ended before they hit high school - just a guess tho I don't mean that in a "you whippersnappers" way or anything

ffs you chowderheads. toys? the guy basically gave us the computers we are using to dismiss him RIGHT NOW, even if they're running windows and even if he did rip the bulk off it off the parc guys.

I make music, CAD. Apple's technology impacts what I do every damn day. For the better.

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i use the phone every day and i can otm this post!

it's just a little weird that ppl feel so strongly about a guy whose job was making computers and gadgets that were a bit nicer than everyone else's computers and gadgets!

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:15 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

computers are pretty fucking amazing, they have changed the world A LOT, this guy had a hand in inventing and popularizing many of the things that we consider to just be inherent computerness, the whole story is on some level a testament to the power of mind

man nytimes story + ad seeming incongruous atm

http://i.imgur.com/qE6dD.png

aero's comments going sadly unnoticed here, but yeah, dude's products literally changed the way a major, major industry conducts its work.

RIP, no one should die of cancer this young and leave behind such a young family.

amateurist also totally otm

i don't think we need to start objectively outlining which CEOs are worth caring about and which aren't

when the CEO of exxon mobil dies i'm not really going to give a shit, even tho i use a car and a stove -- i don't think this is hard to grasp

ice cr?m and aero relentlessly otm here and i have never been an apple dude at all. this is just history we're talking.

yeah idk arguing about this just seems like nagl. Obviously everybody has some threshold for when a death affects them; if we were sad about everyone who died we'd all be sad all the time.

idk I also feel like, can we not use the death of a famous person to take the moral high ground here? especially when we are all posting from computers that are made in china?

Like, people can record an entire, releasable album on a fucking iPad. That's pretty major. The existence of ProTools made possible editing choices that Les Paul could only dream of when he ordered that 8-track machine from Ampex.

Cheap labour is why there's a burgeoning middle class in so many developing countries. In places like India and China it's now possible for more people to achieve a relatively decent standard of living. I'm not attributing this to Jobs btw. And before I get attacked, understand that this is merely a counterpoint; there's no black & white when it comes to the effects of industry in developing countries.

no moral high ground. it's a complex legacy because there is an inventor/visionary piece and there's a major, important business piece too. i don't think there's a problem with noting them both.

ffs, a dude died, he did a lot of awesome shit, he also did some of this bad shit

possible age gap thing going on here though. I am guessing that people who became adults before computers became ubiquitous are more greatly affected than those for whom the pre-computer age ended before they hit high school - just a guess tho I don't mean that in a "you whippersnappers" way or anything

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, October 5, 2011

OTM, also coming of age pre/post ipod

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/05/stay-hungry-stay-foolish/ <-- good speech (I skimmed it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

oh it's been quoted itt, nm xp