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Now I think I'm ready to delve into the bootlegs.

Three Different Ones to start with...

Brain Damage Podcast: http://braindamage.libsyn.com/
Mostly bootlegs, rare tracks, and ephemera. He's been posting a lot of Waters' recent live Wall shows, but if you dig backwards there's lots of good stuff. I've been using his show as a bootleg preview. The "Floyd's Worst Moments" show is a fun one - battles with power outages, rainstorms, and Waters' psychodrama.

Harvested: http://www.harvested.org/
Bootleg group that releases definitive (complete show, speed-corrected, and mastered) versions oF the more well-known bootlegs out there. There's no audio downloads from the site, but if you search "Harvested" + their HRV release number you're bound to find it on a torrent, slsk, etc. site.

Yeeshkul: http://www.yeeshkul.com/
Torrent site of every Pink Floyd bootleg live recording known to exist. The guys on that site know more about live Pink Floyd than the band does.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Excellent, thanks!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

just remember that pink floyd rules

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

The BBC shows are the first ones to look for. I've seen them under different names, but Meddled (1971-09-30) is probably the best. The Massed Gadgets of Auximenies (1969-04-14), Animal Instincts (1977-05-03), and Interstellar Fillmore (1970-04-29) would be the next ones.

Other faves: Who Was Trained Not To Spit On The Fan?, Interstellar Zappadrive (Zappa guests on guitar for a 20 minute "Interstellar Overdrive")

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ezgu7yVHA8U/RyHitIchDGI/AAAAAAAAAFg/S-eNEYrRP5c/s1600-h/pffz-amougies.jpg

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Also, the Gilmourish site http://www.gilmourish.com/ - is a incredibly detailed reverse engineering of every guitar/amp/effect Gilmour used from 1968 onwards. It's also a very good guitar instruction/equipment review site. Worth reading if you play.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

"atom heart mother"" suite is one of the greatest prog epics there is. lord this band rules

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

The BBC shows are the first ones to look for. I've seen them under different names, but Meddled (1971-09-30) is probably the best.

I think I prefer the one where they played "Atom Heart Mother", Paris Theatre, 1970 sometime.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to MEDDLED right now and it's pretty damn good. Hard to pick a favorite between those two. I really love the stripped-down "Atom Heart Mother" with just the band minus the bells and whistles from the Paris Theatre show (same year). But really, why choose? Love both equally.

Matt M., Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Pawing through http://www.gilmourish.com/ and just giggling at the overwhelming amount of information and obsessive detail this goes into. Highly recommended.

Matt M., Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to MEDDLED right now and it's pretty damn good. Hard to pick a favorite between those two. I really love the stripped-down "Atom Heart Mother" with just the band minus the bells and whistles from the Paris Theatre show (same year)

... the one I've heard has got the choir + brass section + everything? So that's a different Paris Theatre show!

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

"atom heart mother"" suite is one of the greatest prog epics there is. lord this band rules

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:45 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is pink floyd prog? i mean...they are...in a way? but not in a way? i guess i never knew how to place them in relation to prog, they certainly have some of the elements of prog, but at the same time they tend away from instrumental flourish and more towards huge expansive mood...

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

tbh, the floyd has never seemed as chopsy to me as other prog bands -- king crimson, yes, etc. like rick wright is not a flashy player by any means. none of 'em are, i guess.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

Rick "Turkish Delight" Wright. They are certainly not a "chops" band.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

I must be thinking of another show then. I know I've heard one that's minus the choir and horns and I really dug it. Must be from that period, but not sure when. Will check around.

Matt M., Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

As for prog-ness of The Floyd, for all the tricks and effects, none of it ever felt like i was showing off, y'know? Gilmour is a pretty understated player, at least in terms of the notes being played. Sure, he loved to put the sound right into outer space, but all of the notes belonged exactly where they were. No unnecessary scales.

Matt M., Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

Our own difficult listening hour listened to Pipers... for the first time this morning. His thoughts:

this stuff is ridiculous though

SITTING ON A BUTTERCUP
SWIMMING IN THE STARRY SKY

what a stupid decade

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

...
he agrees that pink floyd rules, though, right?

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Mono Piper...-INTENSE (and rules)

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

^this. Just heard it for the first time the other day, and it trounces the stereo version. Trounces, I say!

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i'd say that's my go-to example for the mono beating stereo in the 60s argument. even w/ the beatles, i don't care that much, but piper is just so much better.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Also was the only version directly mastered/overseen by Syd, yes?

Matt M., Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i think that's right.
everything just sounds so much more alive on the mono mix.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah...but there's one moment...I always forget but will find it, where there's a transition in the stereo mix (the mix I grew up with ), that's like the effects change in PIL's Memories, where suddenly everything clears out and changes and it's just astonishing, and it's totally missing on the mono version, which I wasn't familiar with till a year or two ago.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

Is it the back-and-forth whooshing at the end of "Interstellar Overdrive"? That's about the only think I miss from the stereo version. Makes me dizzy.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

*thing

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

i actually think it's the aforementioned parts in flaming, where it goes from all the jingle jangle percussion and background vocals to a strummed guitar in the middle of the couplet. I'm listening to the stereo version on youtube now and it's not as pronounced as I remember.

Before "sitting on a unicorn". I'll have to listen to whatever stereo version I have at home.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

I listened to Ummagumma for the first time ever today. I really wish I hadn't let all of the horror stories about the studio side keep me away for so long, because the live side is a real treat.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, I forgot, Pink Floyd rules!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

I love The Narrow Way, really underrated and a big part of my "boot".

dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

might be unbelievable heresy, but i might prefer the live "Astronomy Domine" on ummagumma to the syd version. maybe!
pink floyd rules!

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

^that is sacrilege imo but the live side of ummagumma is dope.
Getting back to the soundtrack talk...the Floyd contributions to Zabriskie Point RULE.
Also: only original Floyd stuff on Spotify.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

lol i felt ~regrets~ as soon as i typed that. but i do love the live side!
dudes, the floyd opened with astronomy domine when i saw them in 94! and i was in the fucking parking lot!

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

True story: in like 2000, I checked Ummagumma out of my local library to finally hear it, but when I got home it had two copies of the stupid disc in it! Revolted I was, so I returned it unlistened.

Yeah, "The Narrow Way" is something I could really see myself returning to, not so much the rest of it. dan selzer you better at least post tracklistings when you are done! That will rule, much like the Floyd!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Also: only original Floyd stuff on Spotify.
Oh, besides Pulse, that is.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

No Grand Vizier's Garden Party for you Jon?

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

might be unbelievable heresy, but i might prefer the live "Astronomy Domine" on ummagumma to the syd version. maybe!

17 October, 1970. Pepperland Auditorium in San Rafael, CA. PF twice tries to open with "Astronomy Domine" but the auditorium power keeps blowing out and the band and audience is frustrated. When power is finally restored, they sound like the unholiest combination of Spacemen 3, Tangerine Dream, and Husker Du. Run for your lives!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykRgNwnOR0I

(apologies for sounding like a Deadhead with all the bootleg talk)

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

How weird: Rhapsody has tons of Floyd and Spotify almost none?

dlp9001, Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

Licensing is a bitch.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

so if i were to read a book about pink floyd (who rule), should it be pigs might fly or saucerful of secrets or something else entirely

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

I thought SAUCERFUL was a pretty great read. Most fans probably thought he spent too much time on "the stupid flower child early days before DARK SIDE MAAAAAAN" but I thought he got the balance pretty right. Not familiar with PIGS MIGHT FLY.

Matt M., Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:59 (twelve years ago) link

Pigs Might Fly rules.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 6 October 2011 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bigozine2.com/MP311/PFjungle/PFjungleFr.jpg
dunno if everyone already has this, but i don't! looks like it rules.
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=902

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

I dl'd Concertgebouw from some site a few months ago. It's fantastic.

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Broke down and picked up Meddle, Animals and Dark Side of the Moon. Fucking hell does Animals sound amazing.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Stopped yesterday and picked up a fuck-ton of these. Piper, Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, DSOM, The Wall, Wish You Were Here and Animals. Just started listening to The Wall here at work and it sounds incredible. The remaster has cleared up a lot of the song-to-song volume change problems from previous CD issues, so far as I can tell. And there's so much going on in the background of these songs that I've never really paid attention to before.

Since I haven't listened to them since their original releases, is there any reason for me to give Momentary Lapse and Division Bell another chance? I remember liking "Learning to Fly" and "Dogs of War" at the time, but the rest of them have completely left my memory.

Like, Waters's bass on the intro to "The Happiest Days of Our Lives" sounds so powerful and ominous it literally just sent a chill up my spine.

The transition from "Empty Spaces" to "Young Lust" is like 1000x cleaner now!

I know only DJP and I rep for The Wall, but damn. This sounds amazing. I want to go home and jam it all night on the big speakers now.

I'm about to go all Bimble here, I swear.

i wasn't overly fussed re the beatles reissues, but i can see myself stumping up the necessaries for the boxset of this lot at some time.

so, EMI have done 2 of their crown jewels in last 2 years

who is up for the big shareholder pleasing treatment next year i wonder ?

mark e, Friday, 7 October 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

'the wall' is amazing. never got the haters

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 7 October 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link


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