DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

come now there has to be a thin surface of respect paid to secretaries of state so that when they lie about a cat on telly to justify scrapping the human right act you can have a go at them and it have some weight

Chakrabarti's been snuggling up to the Tories for ages now, idiot

Idiot = Liberal

"The only way out of a debt crisis is to deal with your debts. That means households - all of us - paying off the credit card and store card bills. It means banks getting their books in order."

From my local paper, gaun' yerself Emily!

Apparently the government have nixxed proposals to put some kind of financial education on the National Curriculum? That above post in italics is why. You don't pay your fucking mortgage off in one lump sum at the expense of eating.

"Most hideous of LibDems" = "the ones most likely to take my seat", right?

Also stop telling the voters things like "we are the progressive party". Everyone says it now. Most of the electorate don't have any idea what it means, and assume you're bullshitting them.

xxp

No, you pay your fucking mortgage off in one lump sum at the expense of the taxpayer.

Chakrabarti's been snuggling up to the Tories for ages now, idiot

― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:29 (Yesterday) Permalink

More than snuggling (allegedly).

Cameron isn't that interested in winning the next election. If anyone pays attention to him then anaemic growth will stall as money gets destroyed in mass debt repayment, whacking growth just as the cuts bite.

What's he interested in then?

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/051214/memi06.htm

Oh wait that was years ago...

This is the latest one...

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/100927/cameron_rt-hon-david.htm

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Cameron isn't that interested in winning the next election. If anyone pays attention to him then anaemic growth will stall as money gets destroyed in mass debt repayment, whacking growth just as the cuts bite.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:52 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

eh?

that reminds me of deathdrone's poker logic tbh

It's a funny Tory who's not interested in winning an election

Apparently the government have nixxed proposals to put some kind of financial education on the National Curriculum?

this has been such a bugbear of mine over the three conferences

Of course Cameron is interested in winning the election, or at least not losing it. He may be increasingly disinterested in being popular, but being unpopular is different to losing elections.

That they're not going to get anywhere near eliminating the deficit in this parliament must surely be the elephant in the room at the conference. They've over-promised.

Looks like he could make a lot more money by losing office.

Given that their defect reduction plan relies on growth, discouraging consumer spending wouldn't be something I'd put at the top of the Agenda. Unless of course, now they've seen they can't get close to eliminating the deficit they think they can still use it whack labour with at the next election or they see a 10 year cost cutting plan as the only way to reconfigure Britain as a low tax, small public sector nightmare.

see a 10 year cost cutting plan as the only way to reconfigure Britain as a low tax, small public sector nightmare

Been the plan all along though hasn't it? The deficit has just let them get away with it.

'The prime minister has re-written the part of his conference speech which appeared to call on households to pay off their credit card and store card bills. His aides insist that this was due to "sloppy drafting" and the briefing-out of an unfinished speech. Mr Cameron will now say that: "The only way out of a debt crisis is to deal with your debts. That's why households - all of us - are paying off the credit card and store card bills." '

Primal Scream express disgust at Theresa May's use of their hit Rocks

Why would she do such a thing? First the feckin' cat and now this!

Prsumably the verses were edited out.

His aides insist that this was due to "sloppy drafting", and the briefing-out of an unfinished speech and their having listened to radio four this morning which said people were already doing it.

Well, that was underwhelming.

Why do the tories hate health and safety so much?

Was that the least triumphalist conference speech ever?

Why do the tories hate health and safety so much?

Costs businesses money innit.

another reason is it's one of the few effective tools that unions still have to improve working conditions - stress is a health and safety issue, so it gives a legal framework to challenge workload issues, bullying etc.

Yes, bureaucracy and red tape and all that. Tho Tory governments have been no less prone to bureaucracy and red tape than Labour ones.

'great british spirit' thing is like someone telling you to be resilient while they punch you in the head

'Sit still and grit your teeth while we fuck you over'. Only, after the Blitz the nation immediately demanded socialised government.

So, idk, maybe they're reviving the hoary ghost of John Bull and mutton-chop whiskers all round.

Funny, I read the last page of the churchill war memoir, it was basically "but we lost the election, so I went "you know what? Fuck the lot of yez" and I went home. The end."

The Daily Telegraph says Werritty was paid to work as Fox's parliamentary researcher.

The Independent says that Werritty personally organised a controversial visit by Fox to Sri Lanka.

The Daily Mail says Werritty tried to cover up his role in the controversial meeting Fox attended in Dubai.

The Times says Werritty was seen as the "go-to guy" for defence lobbyists.

The Sun says Liam Fox ignored warnings about his relationship with Adam Werritty.

"Let's just establish, first of all, what hasn't happened. Nothing illegal has happened. Dr Fox has made no commercial gain from this. There have been no breaches of national security and Dr Fox has actually apologised for the much smaller matters for which he was at fault. Frankly, there's quite a lot of insinuation, innuendo and smear involved in many of these allegations as reported. The adviser, as such, wasn't present in any of the official meetings and wasn't present when any national security issues were discussed. Dr Fox has apologised, as we know, for any apparent blurring between his professional responsibilities and his personal friendships and that should cover the matter."

I'm sure they've been looking for an excuse to hang Fox out to dry for a while now, he's been leaking his own complaints to the press and generally working against Cameron for a year or so.

That said, inviting your mate along to MINISTRY OF DEFENCE meetings = really not clever, but I'm sure Tory ministers have done dodgier shit in their time and will do so throughout this Parliament as well.

Unless Fox has been getting some kind of kickback we don't know about yet obviously.

i have a little bit of sympathy for the 'being unable to control your best mate who is being a self-promoting dick' aspect of the Fox story - but maybe that's because everything to do with the MoD and the defence industry fills me with so much ethical horror i can't remember how morals are supposed to work any more.

also, that deleted Chris Huhne tweet people were alluding to all over twitter yesterday, explained: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15233811

i have a little bit of sympathy for the 'being unable to control your best mate who is being a self-promoting dick' aspect of the Fox story - but maybe that's because everything to do with the MoD and the defence industry fills me with so much ethical horror i can't remember how morals are supposed to work any more.

idk. i went into my friend's studios a couple of days ago & was aware that if some studio-person found me there and i was all, oh no!, it's cool!, i'm here with my friend!, it would still probably not be okay because they'd have no reason to trade on my friend's say so. i think if you are like ... the defence secretary you should be able to tell your friend "you can't come to work with me today!"

also, it would be nice to have politicians who did not so blatantly think themselves above the rules.

The allegations are hugely damaging at face value. There does seem to have been an unnecessary undercurrent of innuendo to some of the reporting, though.

I've heard "I have done nothing wrong" a million times, and "I have done nothing illegal" precisely never.

Top Telegraph reader comments on Boris's article saying how hard it is to fly into London:

Well that's one way of looking at it...if you want to stay in denial.

Reality is Chinese, the Japanese and the remaining few yanks who can afford holidays have expressed their reluctance to continue visiting England as tourists, if they have to land in one of the London airports, not because of inadequate slots, but because they don't like the 'multicultural' hellhole that is now London experience.

When they come to England, they come to see ENGLAND, its ENGLISH heritage and culture and hear ENGLISH. Fact. This is on record as you well know.

Cut taxes. Stop immigration. Get out of the EU.

We won't need an extra airport anymore.

Here's a clue Boris. Stop letting people into the country.

You know those people that suddenly now need to be housed and use up all available ground space. The developers struggling to build to meet demand and concreting over as much of this lovely country as they can.

There are plenty of unused airport runways in this country that could be adapted and used. But they aren't. Why not? because they aren't near enough to London!

Oh shit yeah what this country needs right now less of is demand for work, re that last comment.

glad i can come to ilx for my newspaper website comment needs.

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