PINK FLOYD

make me a megamix of the love scene takes while you're at it (w/ jerry garcia's versions too)

Zabriski Point sessions rule

RE: Maple Leaf Gardens - Mind. Blown.

hmm don't think i've heard any of those 73 shows? sounds like they rule. the floyd toured a lot until they didn't!

So I picked up a couple of the remasters today, filling in a couple of the holes in my collection - The Final Cut, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, and Ummagumma. Now I just need Division Bell and Obscured by Clouds to finish things off.

Guys:

Famously, Syd popped in while they were making "Wish you were here", and at one point (allegedly), he picked up a guitar and said "righto, shall I add my bits now?"

What was wrong with saying "um, yeah OK, why not?"

Because by then he was 19 stone lunatic who couldn't string two chords together?

Dunno, there was that 1974 session in which at least one track, "John Lee Hooker", was basically 'competent' if not actually 'good'

I think he had good days and bad days and, by all accounts, the day he dropped into the WYWH sessions was, uh, not one of his better ones

Prescriptions drugs, eh? Can't live with 'em, uhhhhhhhhh, can't, uh, live without 'em.

John Lee Hooker is barely competent and certainly not the sound of someone they'd put on Wish You Were Here!

Yeah, what I mean is "Go on then Syd", and then not mix it in when it comes round to it, if no use.

Then again, I can imagine the sadness of seeing their mate fumbling around a guitar in the studio with no sign of that old 'magic', so, you know, fair enough...

Heard they were in tears when they realised it was actually Syd... though no doubt trying desperately not to show it, in a manful middle class English way

i can imagine syd showing up wrecking the whole story arc roger was gearing up too. a lot of 'dark side' is about syd losing it, and . . . if syd were involved in the next record, then they couldn't wish he could be there anymore. 'glad you're back!' is not quite as poetic an album title. "keep your cool, you erstwhile crazy diamond" isn't as poignant a thematic conceit either

Wish you were there

Missed opportunity or what?

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"And by the way, which one's Pink?"
"Why, that's me, sir!"

Right, I hae searched but I have not found. So, here is a tale:

My wife's mother was looking in an antiquey market at some Laurel and Hardy memorabilia, where she got on chatting to a bloke who was also looking. "You into this sort of stuff" he askes. "Well, it's more for my husband, he's a big fan. I like them, but I'm more into the modern stuff. Guns and Roses, Pink Floyd, that sort of thing" she replies. At which point the bloke looks a bit puzzled. "Pink Floyd? Um, that's us lot!" he clarifies. For it is Dave Gilmore.
"Ah, I didn't recognise you, sorry!"
"Well, I look a bit different from the old photos thesedays" he smiles.
"Ah, well, then again so do I" she says.

Anyway, when she told us this story, my wife looked very puzzled, and said that she'd never been told that story before! So, it must have been some years ago..

Would love to hear that in the U.K., all the Bill Murray stories are David Gilmour ones.

It would rule.

The day Syd dropped by the studio:

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Shaved eyebrows nagl, Syd

Are there any actual accounts of what his interactions with the band were, though? Everything I've ever read indicates he was there, wasn't recognized, and when they determined who it was they were heartbroken. I've never heard anything further, other than implied depressing small talk.

I think Mark Blake's book (the best book I've ever read on the Floyd, btw) goes into the encounter in some detail. Don't have my copy here with me, though.

my upcoming Pink Floyd bootleg/recontextualization
when is this going to be available on double LP at my local head shop

^^^ u&k

Guys (particularly tyler), what would you consider the essential bootlegs for someone ready to dive into those murky waters? I've followed your fairly typical Floyd arc (at least as far as people my age seem to do) - loved the shit out of them ages 14-17, then decided they were bloated shit from about 18-22, rediscovered how awesome they were for a couple years and OD'ed, then ignored them in favor of other music for the past decade. Now I think I'm ready to delve into the bootlegs.

I'd go for The BBC Archives for the post-Syd/pre-Dark Side era, and Animal Instincts (the Oakland show) for latter day angry and falling apart Floyd. I'm slightly irrational about the Oakland show; it was the first Floyd boot I ever found, a three lp set called A Great Set. Awesome cover, though not safe for work.

not even that much of an expert on floyd bootlegs - i'd say just dive in. yeah, those bbc live shows are amazing (that's basically what I linked to above). seek out some of the pre-dark side dark side shows, where they're trying out arrangements of that material. i have a manchester 74 show that i like for the early versions of animals tracks, but that might be made redundant by the live wembley stuff being put out officially. for syd era, what syd wants has some wonderful tracks, but there are others covering that period too.

Okay, thanks!

Now I think I'm ready to delve into the bootlegs.

Three Different Ones to start with...

Brain Damage Podcast: http://braindamage.libsyn.com/
Mostly bootlegs, rare tracks, and ephemera. He's been posting a lot of Waters' recent live Wall shows, but if you dig backwards there's lots of good stuff. I've been using his show as a bootleg preview. The "Floyd's Worst Moments" show is a fun one - battles with power outages, rainstorms, and Waters' psychodrama.

Harvested: http://www.harvested.org/
Bootleg group that releases definitive (complete show, speed-corrected, and mastered) versions oF the more well-known bootlegs out there. There's no audio downloads from the site, but if you search "Harvested" + their HRV release number you're bound to find it on a torrent, slsk, etc. site.

Yeeshkul: http://www.yeeshkul.com/
Torrent site of every Pink Floyd bootleg live recording known to exist. The guys on that site know more about live Pink Floyd than the band does.

Excellent, thanks!

just remember that pink floyd rules

The BBC shows are the first ones to look for. I've seen them under different names, but Meddled (1971-09-30) is probably the best. The Massed Gadgets of Auximenies (1969-04-14), Animal Instincts (1977-05-03), and Interstellar Fillmore (1970-04-29) would be the next ones.

Other faves: Who Was Trained Not To Spit On The Fan?, Interstellar Zappadrive (Zappa guests on guitar for a 20 minute "Interstellar Overdrive")

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Also, the Gilmourish site http://www.gilmourish.com/ - is a incredibly detailed reverse engineering of every guitar/amp/effect Gilmour used from 1968 onwards. It's also a very good guitar instruction/equipment review site. Worth reading if you play.

"atom heart mother"" suite is one of the greatest prog epics there is. lord this band rules

The BBC shows are the first ones to look for. I've seen them under different names, but Meddled (1971-09-30) is probably the best.

I think I prefer the one where they played "Atom Heart Mother", Paris Theatre, 1970 sometime.

Listening to MEDDLED right now and it's pretty damn good. Hard to pick a favorite between those two. I really love the stripped-down "Atom Heart Mother" with just the band minus the bells and whistles from the Paris Theatre show (same year). But really, why choose? Love both equally.

Pawing through http://www.gilmourish.com/ and just giggling at the overwhelming amount of information and obsessive detail this goes into. Highly recommended.

Listening to MEDDLED right now and it's pretty damn good. Hard to pick a favorite between those two. I really love the stripped-down "Atom Heart Mother" with just the band minus the bells and whistles from the Paris Theatre show (same year)

... the one I've heard has got the choir + brass section + everything? So that's a different Paris Theatre show!

"atom heart mother"" suite is one of the greatest prog epics there is. lord this band rules

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:45 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is pink floyd prog? i mean...they are...in a way? but not in a way? i guess i never knew how to place them in relation to prog, they certainly have some of the elements of prog, but at the same time they tend away from instrumental flourish and more towards huge expansive mood...

tbh, the floyd has never seemed as chopsy to me as other prog bands -- king crimson, yes, etc. like rick wright is not a flashy player by any means. none of 'em are, i guess.

Rick "Turkish Delight" Wright. They are certainly not a "chops" band.

I must be thinking of another show then. I know I've heard one that's minus the choir and horns and I really dug it. Must be from that period, but not sure when. Will check around.

As for prog-ness of The Floyd, for all the tricks and effects, none of it ever felt like i was showing off, y'know? Gilmour is a pretty understated player, at least in terms of the notes being played. Sure, he loved to put the sound right into outer space, but all of the notes belonged exactly where they were. No unnecessary scales.

Our own difficult listening hour listened to Pipers... for the first time this morning. His thoughts:

this stuff is ridiculous though

SITTING ON A BUTTERCUP
SWIMMING IN THE STARRY SKY

what a stupid decade

...
he agrees that pink floyd rules, though, right?

Mono Piper...-INTENSE (and rules)

^this. Just heard it for the first time the other day, and it trounces the stereo version. Trounces, I say!

yeah, i'd say that's my go-to example for the mono beating stereo in the 60s argument. even w/ the beatles, i don't care that much, but piper is just so much better.

Also was the only version directly mastered/overseen by Syd, yes?

yeah i think that's right.
everything just sounds so much more alive on the mono mix.