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Everton, money?

(On the matter of names, I'm pretty sure that Jack McBean isn't remotely Scottish and his parents just decided to give him their idea of what a Scottish name would be.)

http://www.boyfrombrazil.co.uk/2011/10/remember-the-name-george-green/

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

whatever happened to Danny Gosling?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 3 October 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

I like that article xp and it's churlish to criticise what is, after all, a pretty excellent exclusive - but gosh, it's hard work to read. Every sentence has mangled syntax or missing commas; it takes a couple of goes to work out what's being said.

I guess I'm saying well done ILF, you lot are a breeze to read and I don't usually notice.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, George Green - I'm a fan already.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

TOP SCHOOLBOY SIGNINGS

Michael Woods & Tom Taiwo, Leeds to Chelsea, £5m, both aged 16, 2007
Jermaine Pennant, Notts County to Arsenal, £2m, aged 15, 1999
John Bostock, Crystal Palace to Tottenham, £2m, aged 16, 2008
Dean Parrett, QPR to Tottenham, £2m, aged 15, 2007
John Cofie, Burnley to Manchester United, £1m, aged 14, 2009
Scott Sinclair, Bristol Rovers to Chelsea, £1m, aged 16, 2005

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 08:06 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Chelsea have agreed to pay a staggering £2million to make an MK Dons youth-team player the most expensive 14-year-old in football.

Teenage sensation Oluwaseyi Ojo is viewed as one of the hottest prospects in English football, with Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City all having tracked the youngster.

But Chelsea have won the race to sign the midfielder after making three offers for Ojo while he was playing for England Under 16s against Northern Ireland at Chesterfield on Wednesday.

The teenager was introduced as a half-time substitute and made an impact after two minutes, setting up Mason Bennett's second as England secured a 3-1 win.

The impressive cameo sparked an incredible series of bids from Chelsea during the game. Knowing that scouts from the country's other top clubs were also at the game, they made three bids in 45 minutes. MK Dons rejected the opening two offers before agreeing a package understood to be worth an initial £1.5million, plus another £500,000 in add-ons.

On paper it is not hard to see why Chelsea have paid a record fee paid for the 14-year-old - who joined the League One club in 2007.
Despite his tender age, Ojo has already been invited to train with Karl Robinson’s first team. Furthermore, he made his debut for the Dons’ Under-18 team aged just 13 and is already a fixture for the Under-16’s.

Chelsea’s youth coaches will take a closer look at Ojo upon his arrival at the club’s Cobham HQ before deciding which age group he should begin his Blues education.

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

i was pleasantly surprised to see he cited xavi iniesta and cesc as his ideals/idols

nakhchivan, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Derby County's new 15-year-old wonderkid Mason Bennett was prevented from making his debut because club officials were wary that he had to be up early for school the next morning.

Bennett - who is being tracked by Manchester City - looks set to make his first-team bow this weekend at Middlesbrough after being sidelined for the trip to Reading on Tuesday.

Clough said: 'It won't be a problem this weekend, because he's breaking up for half-term next week.'

Bennett was born on the day England beat Scotland at Euro 96 and will beat Derby's previous record holder Lee Holmes as the youngest player in their history by 169 days if he plays on Saturday.

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/xO9O7.png

omg best name ever

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

Led by Chelsea’s superb box-to-box enforcer Ruben Loftus-Cheek, this current crop of England starlets has real depth. Arsenal’s Jordan Brown, MK Dons’ Oluwaseyi Ojo and Aston Villa’s Dan Crowley all made impressions off the bench, showing a real swagger and style with the ball.

Manager Kenny Swain has a huge pool of talent to choose from, and will likely rotate his whole squad next time out against Wales. Expect more prospects to show themselves, including Alex Iwobi, a teenage Arsenal forward, and the nephew of Nigerian legend Jay-Jay Okocha.

The future is looking good.

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2051541/Former-Chelsea-starlet-Taiwo-I-let-down.html

La Masia isnt the be all and end all, if you look at the technically gifted players they produce how many good defenders have come out of it?

- Martin, Belfast, 21/10/2011 10:48

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

re: McBean -- Galaxy started a lot of youth this past weekend losing @ Houston

Perhaps the only bright spot of the match for the Galaxy involved a 16-year-old striker. Jack McBean, who hails from nearby Newport Beach, Calif., scored his first goal of the season as he made his MLS debut.

bomb.gif (dan m), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

"Our academy is absolutely essential to us," said Parish. "For one thing, it helps us establish real deep roots in the community in which we play."

Palace have a tradition of promoting local heroes. Gary Issott, the academy chief, said: "London is hugely populated so we can draw on a good pool of players. And the demographics of our area works in our favour."

Moses went to school in South Norwood after arriving in this country from Nigeria and Zaha settled in the area having moved from the Ivory Coast.

Issott added: "A lot of African lads end up here, you just wait for them to walk through Heathrow or Gatwick."

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZT10xoWHXBI

I had no idea Cruijff's grandson, 17 year old Jessua Andrea Angoy Cruijff, plays for the Latics! o_O

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-snap-up-prodigy-Charlie-Jackson-at-age-just-five-article830799.html

He would barely reach Wayne ­Rooney’s midriff, but football mad Charlie Jackson has been snapped up by Manchester United, aged five.

Old Trafford scouts spotted his incredible soccer skills when he was just three but had to wait until he was old enough to join their development centre.

Charlie now trains with top-rated youngsters almost all a year older than him. And coaches are tipping him as a future superstar.

Parents Andy and Claire, both 38, said they could not be happier he has joined the Reds, even though the family are all fans of bitter rivals Manchester City.

Accountant Andy said: “His idols are Joe Hart and Mario Balotelli and at first he was mortified that he was having to train with United, but he seems to be getting over that bit now. He loves it.

“It’s an amazing opportunity. Everywhere we go people notice him because of his ­football talent. People just stand and watch him. They can’t believe he’s only five because he’s so good.”

Charlie, who lives with his parents and older brother Jake, 12, in Denton, Greater Manchester, was spotted by United while playing at a local soccer scheme called Footytotz.

Andy said he has no long-term goals for his son. He added: “There’s no pressure, but it would be nice if he plays for City one day.”

Number None, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

i thought clubs in england arent allowed to sign anyone till 9? is this a case of 'man utd have an unofficial u5 kids group in the local kids leagues, before he can sign in 4 years time' or did the rules change?

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

theo walcott

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

wayne rooney

Number None, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/18/article-2088046-0F829DE400000578-915_468x312.jpg

Chelsea have signed three brothers from the Luton youth squad for a five-figure sum each.

Twins Rio and Cole Dasilva, 12, as well as 13-year-old sibling Jay have joined the Chelsea academy after five years at Luton.

mizzell, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

fuckin rio fuckin cole wtf

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Rio, Cole and Jay Dasilva: proper made-up footballer names tbh

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

not a specific player but

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/sports/soccer/soccers-all-year-model-forces-high-school-players-to-choose.html

this is big news in the states, given the sheer number of kids playing the game

dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

That's interesting. It accords with my own diagnosis that I've banged on about here before, that the US basically doesn't work hard enough at sport, and when it does work hard it does so completely haphazardly. Which is fine where you're the dominant league, competing only with yourself or maybe internationally with Lithuania or the Dominican Republic; but it's not a competitive approach for soccer.

The thing is that the American approach to sports in general looks far more attractive, sitting here, so in one sense this is a shame, a professional career replacing a college education as the aspiration. On the other hand, how good might Landon Donovan have been if he'd been hothoused? Where might Clint Dempsey be now?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

“It’s awkward,” Enna said. “You look at LeBron James — he played for his high school and went pro. Why do we have to give it up?”

The opposition to this seems to half think that these kids are going to drop out of school? Whereas it just amounts to a v. well run after/out-of-school class, like getting high grade guitar lessons from a specialist guitar teacher.

Also it is great pointing to the likes of LeBron in the article but you have to wonder how many great atheletes America has missed out on by connecting it so severely with the education system, one that most critics could point to a Wire S4-esque situation of failure for a lot of kids.

I just read The Art of Fielding and ok, it is purposefully a literary novel about smart people but it makes it seem like half a college baseball team is working off genius. Whereas if I offered half a professional football team in this country that 500 page novel - about sports - to read, they'd look at me like i was asking them to do quantum physics. While it seems like European football is too busy preparing youngsters of potential to become footballers and nothing else, America doesn't seem to prepare them to become footballers unless they do it themselves, too busy going to college and whatever. A middle ground is needed.

Considering the CRAZY figure of how many people play football in America, it should produce more than 2 players worth exporting a year. I wonder how much of this failure is based on it being the 5th most popular sport. If basketball had such a worldwide hysteria and similar training systems, would America be as dominant as it is today? Or would they just bow their heads, understand they need to do it what is increasingly being called the 'Stoke City' method?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

For advocates of the previous system, however — in which the Development Academy’s schedule typically broke for the scholastic season and players were free to join their school squads — the sacrifices required by this shift are too great. Dan Woog, the boys soccer coach at Staples High School in Westport, Conn., recalled the night his team won a league championship several years ago and a group of players showed up at a diner afterward with their championship medals around their necks.

Suddenly, the other customers in the diner — a majority of them Westport residents — stood up and spontaneously gave the players a standing ovation. The players beamed.

“They’re going to remember that the rest of their lives,” Woog said. “They felt like kings. That’s not going to happen in the academy.”

No, if they go to the academy they will be properly trained atheletes going for worldwide prestige, untold millions and the opportunity to become Americas first true soccer star. But you know, that one time as a teenager...

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

the point is the current system is rooted in communities and it allows a bunch of kids who have no chance of becoming professionals to be in the spotlight for a while.
doesn't matter how many kids play soccer, without a culture in the usa that follows and obsesses over it, i don't think it will produce great players. so many american players are immigrants or the children of immigrants and therefore have exposure to a soccer-obsessed culture.
interesting to read foreign opinions on us sport culture, but i have never thought that americans don't work hard enough on sports and i am pretty sure the art of fielding has absolutely noting to do with actual baseball.

mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

also don't believe for a second that usa wouldn't dominate in basketball if other countries were crazy for it. more likely (to me) that usa would dominate soccer if it was the most popular sport here.

mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah it doesnt seem like it even cares to be an accurate baseball novel. good read tho.

even now america most probably has enough people in it that obsess over football as a midsized european country albeit spread out over a landmass the size of Europe. If Portugal or Denmark or Croatia can produce the likes of Suker or the Laudrups or Figo, I don't think America are pulling their weight for their current soccer-culture, let alone American sporting culture.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Can't wait til China puts together an uber-team to put the NBA in its place

Number None, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

also don't believe for a second that usa wouldn't dominate in basketball if other countries were crazy for it. more likely (to me) that usa would dominate soccer if it was the most popular sport here.

― mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:43 (4 minutes ago)

This was regarding how they develop, fyi. In Brazil or Spain their college equiv. would be playing professionally and against the best, possibly at an international level for the three years someone would be at college learning Media Studies. It justs seems odd that you wouldn't encourage talented atheletes to be schooled to enhance their abilities the same way there are performing arts schools etc.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

trust me, the most talented atheletes spend plenty of time getting coached and practicing in their college years. much much less time spent studying.

mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

oh i dont doubt that

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

not exactly ahead of the game here as he's 17 and has already been spotted by a few bigger clubs and trained with Liverpool but this lad Joel Pohjanpalo is worth watching - a perfect hat-trick in two minutes in only his second senior game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHRquIsXkg

we are not bemused (onimo), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

There's a kid who's obviously got it imo. Nice to see some domestic Finnish footy too. Feel for these journeyman pros though tbh, suddenly reduced to fodder for this child on his way to bigger things.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

if ever he gets fat and useless, big joel pohjanpalo would be a great name for a big

i think the only suomi fitba ive seen was that clip from when roy hodgson was manager of their national team and an owl landed on the pitch

30th best league in Europe, apparently. Jari Litmanen's still going!

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

great 'when showboating goes wrong' example at the start of that vid.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

yes, and the failed showboater could maybe have stood in front of the free kick or covered the unmarked guy who crosses for the goal

we are not bemused (onimo), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

perkele!

Silky Slim (dan m), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

also recently found out a friend's husband was once a gk in the finnish 2nd division. semi-pro team but sounded like a hell of a good time from his stories.

Silky Slim (dan m), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

i sort of want to ask tuomas if he has heard of jari litmanen

two months pass...

AC Milan have paid over €500,000 for 14-year-old Hachim Mastour, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.

The attacking midfielder is reported to have been brought to the Italian giants’ attention by former San Siro manager Arrigo Sacchi.

The move from Reggiana has been confirmed by his agent Dario Paolillo, and the Serie A side’s vice-president, Adriano Galliani, believes the youngster needs to mature in a pressure-free environment.

Galliani went on record to say: “Mastour seems to have great qualities, but let’s not put too much pressure on him. Mastour is 14 years old. He's the future. But he’s still just a kid.”

According to reports, Milan have beaten Barcelona, Real Madrid and Inter to the youngster's signature.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

Full name Adryan Oliveira Tavares
Date of birth October 8, 1994 (age 17)

Scored a nice goal on his senior club debut last week. This video shows him mostly at the U-17 World Cup I think. To quote Ismael, "a kid who's obviously got it imo."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRZA4M-3Vio

boxall, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

THIS talented Irish player is set to take the football world by storm — after signing for Barcelona FC.

Zak Gilsenan, nine, from Castleknock, Dublin, has been snapped up by the Spanish giants after wowing scouts when he scored SEVEN goals in a trial.

The schoolboy saw off 400 other starlets to seal a place at the FCBEscola football academy — which has produced such famous stars as Xavi, Iniesta and Zak’s favourite player Lionel Messi.

Dad Stephen Gilsenan said the whole family will now up sticks and move to Spain to help the midfield ace follow his dream.

Stephen told the Irish Sun: “We were living in Australia when Zak was spotted by Spurs, who were running football camps over there.

Proud dad ... Stephen with Barcelona bound Zak
“We came home with the intention of letting Zak go to Spurs, but in the meantime we had a call from Barcelona. One of their former players saw him playing in Oz and recommended him to Barca.

“They offered Zak a trial in May and it was a great experience. It consisted of over 400 boys from all over the world. He was asked back in June when it was cut down to 90.

“Then in a match between the top 16 players, Zak just ran riot and scored seven goals. He was phenomenal. Then we heard back two weeks ago and they offered him a spot.”

Zak will be joined in Spain by Stephen, mum Claudia, brother Jamie and actress sister Danielle.

He will now come face-to-face with Ireland’s Galactico — Mayo lad John Joe Patrick Finn. In May we revealed how the youngster, whose dad is from Ballyhaunis, signed for the other Spanish giants, Real Madrid.

Seven goals ... Zak
Mining company worker Stephen said: “I know Zak is young to be doing this but kids are like a sponge at this age.

“People say we are mad but in Barcelona he will be educated in the best footballing techniques.

“All we can do is go and see how it develops. We know it’s ruthless over there. We don’t want him turned into a machine, we just want him to enjoy it. It’s his dream to play for Ireland.”

Number None, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link

estimate percent chance zak gilsenan displaces paul mcshane from the left wing position prior to ireland's 3-0 loss to macedonia in the 2022 world cup qualifiers

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

Then in a match between the top 16 players, Zak just ran riot and scored seven goals

Hm, I can't help picturing a father who can't believe his luck. If Zak were really all that he'd be all blasé, talking about workrate and stuff, not about how he thought the third wheel looked like it was going to be a lemon but then it clicked onto a cherry and I'd like to thank me mam, barcelona and god.

Zak's the new Jon Chard imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link


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