Thirded. Very cool to hear it live from the time in great sound
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 2 October 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/issues/1000x190/8b5c170414be9687b840d8794ab83241a97d80b0.jpg
This rules, but it's kinda weird to watch Rolling Stone turn into MOJO.
― Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 2 October 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
there's a pretty interesting article in the newest Stereophile about these remasters, and the lengths to which the engineering team had to go in order to make the live stuff listenable.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
Wish You Were Here featuring Stephane Grappelli (previously unreleased)
????!!!?!?!?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
What bugs me about the RS cover story -- which I quickly read today, so maybe I need to re-read -- is how the writer regurgitates the idea that the post-Syd/pre-DSotM albums are deeply flawed. He even disses Ummagumma. But that's my favorite period!
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
Considering the albums from this period were also reissued, it would be nice to read a new feature story that tears apart the popular history of Floyd by delving into said period, at least give it credence its own on right, rather than dismissing it as nothing more than transitional.
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
(...at least give it credence in its own right...)
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
No shit. That period was great, they just sang about gnomes less often.
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 3 October 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
i was bummed by the cover story. sick of hearing about their feud. i want to hear more about what it was like to trip in the middle of pompeii
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 October 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
^^That's closer to Mojo/Uncut territory.
It also rules.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 October 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
It's a pretty well known story. Grappelli was at Abbey Road for a different session and the band invited him in to play a little bit.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
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― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, October 2, 2011 6:13 PM (Yesterday)
About five or six years ago, Mojo did run a long feature story about PF from 1969 to 1972 and was subsequently expanded into a separate stand-alone "all Pink Floyd" issue. It's worth tracking down.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
Listened to Obscured By Clouds yesterday, having not heard it in a long while--there are some great atmospheric pieces on that one, especially the first track, which could have been a lot longer. One thing I like about the pre-dark side albums is that they tend to be a little scrappier, willing to try things that might not work, and production-wise, rougher around the edges. In short they sound like a band just playing some tunes, no big deal.
Also Obscured by Clouds has PF at it's most fun-lovin' and freewheelin':https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwDe7_bgjz4
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
Even on fucking Rhapsody, that live DSOTM is killing me. Can only imagine the CD on a decent stereo...
― dlp9001, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://i52.tinypic.com/dol3wy.jpg
The Wall on The Wall (East Side Gallery, Berlin)
― doug watson, Monday, 3 October 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
That's exactly why I love MORE and OBSCURED BY CLOUDS so much, but really anything from around that time showed a band that was willing to try new things, particularly live. Then DSOTM came out and all that came after, with increasing levels of complexity and studio dependence until all that was interesting and spontaneous was basically squeezed out of the works.
― Matt M., Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
OTOH, DSOTM, WYWH, & Animals RULE
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
Listened to Obscured By Clouds yesterday, having not heard it in a long while--there are some great atmospheric pieces on that one, especially the first track, which could have been a lot longer.
Try to track down any of the live shows from early 1973. PF was opening with "Obscured By Clouds/When You're In" and extending it out to 10+ minutes. Especially recommended is March 13, 1973 at Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto which takes it out to 15min.
Loving Wright's Moog solo vs. Gilmour's spaceship noises here. They in fact RULE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1coiKosd7fY
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
ive listened to this more than most things in the last 2 years:
http://i.imgur.com/kJ71s.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9U0Lv.jpg
http://vivalesbootlegs.blogspot.com/2010/02/pink-floyd-complete-zabriskie-point.html
highly recommended!!!!
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
fucking cool, I had never even thought to look for this stuff, even though Floyd has ruled in my life for so many years.
THANKS
(xp)
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. That boot has a big part in my upcoming Pink Floyd bootleg/recontextualization, in which I visit an alternate universe where Pink Floyd was a highly regarded but obscure psychedelic folk rock band from the late 60s. It will compile music from both official releases and bootlegs, it will have hand printed letterpress covers, and it will be called either "Another Pink World" or "Everything's Gone Pink". Dead serious about this. Still debating to do it as a simple comp or actually blend tracks together and add additional pastoral sound effects. It will rule.
The Red Queen Theme from those sessions kind of blew my mind, not because it's the greatest thing ever, but like, I thought I had heard most of their songs, you know?
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
i vote you actually blend tracks together and add additional pastoral sound effects
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
make me a megamix of the love scene takes while you're at it (w/ jerry garcia's versions too)
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
Zabriski Point sessions rule
― Euler, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
RE: Maple Leaf Gardens - Mind. Blown.
― Matt M., Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
hmm don't think i've heard any of those 73 shows? sounds like they rule. the floyd toured a lot until they didn't!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link
So I picked up a couple of the remasters today, filling in a couple of the holes in my collection - The Final Cut, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, and Ummagumma. Now I just need Division Bell and Obscured by Clouds to finish things off.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
Guys:
Famously, Syd popped in while they were making "Wish you were here", and at one point (allegedly), he picked up a guitar and said "righto, shall I add my bits now?"
What was wrong with saying "um, yeah OK, why not?"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:07 (twelve years ago) link
Because by then he was 19 stone lunatic who couldn't string two chords together?
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:16 (twelve years ago) link
Dunno, there was that 1974 session in which at least one track, "John Lee Hooker", was basically 'competent' if not actually 'good'
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:30 (twelve years ago) link
I think he had good days and bad days and, by all accounts, the day he dropped into the WYWH sessions was, uh, not one of his better ones
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:36 (twelve years ago) link
Prescriptions drugs, eh? Can't live with 'em, uhhhhhhhhh, can't, uh, live without 'em.
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link
John Lee Hooker is barely competent and certainly not the sound of someone they'd put on Wish You Were Here!
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, what I mean is "Go on then Syd", and then not mix it in when it comes round to it, if no use.
Then again, I can imagine the sadness of seeing their mate fumbling around a guitar in the studio with no sign of that old 'magic', so, you know, fair enough...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
Heard they were in tears when they realised it was actually Syd... though no doubt trying desperately not to show it, in a manful middle class English way
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:21 (twelve years ago) link
i can imagine syd showing up wrecking the whole story arc roger was gearing up too. a lot of 'dark side' is about syd losing it, and . . . if syd were involved in the next record, then they couldn't wish he could be there anymore. 'glad you're back!' is not quite as poetic an album title. "keep your cool, you erstwhile crazy diamond" isn't as poignant a thematic conceit either
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
Wish you were there
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
Missed opportunity or what?
http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-550633-1261555012.jpeg
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
"And by the way, which one's Pink?""Why, that's me, sir!"
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
Right, I hae searched but I have not found. So, here is a tale:
My wife's mother was looking in an antiquey market at some Laurel and Hardy memorabilia, where she got on chatting to a bloke who was also looking. "You into this sort of stuff" he askes. "Well, it's more for my husband, he's a big fan. I like them, but I'm more into the modern stuff. Guns and Roses, Pink Floyd, that sort of thing" she replies. At which point the bloke looks a bit puzzled. "Pink Floyd? Um, that's us lot!" he clarifies. For it is Dave Gilmore."Ah, I didn't recognise you, sorry!" "Well, I look a bit different from the old photos thesedays" he smiles."Ah, well, then again so do I" she says.
Anyway, when she told us this story, my wife looked very puzzled, and said that she'd never been told that story before! So, it must have been some years ago..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
Would love to hear that in the U.K., all the Bill Murray stories are David Gilmour ones.
It would rule.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
The day Syd dropped by the studio:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/2267049379_7e1db56284.jpg
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
Shaved eyebrows nagl, Syd
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
Are there any actual accounts of what his interactions with the band were, though? Everything I've ever read indicates he was there, wasn't recognized, and when they determined who it was they were heartbroken. I've never heard anything further, other than implied depressing small talk.
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
I think Mark Blake's book (the best book I've ever read on the Floyd, btw) goes into the encounter in some detail. Don't have my copy here with me, though.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
my upcoming Pink Floyd bootleg/recontextualizationwhen is this going to be available on double LP at my local head shop
― tylerw, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ u&k
Guys (particularly tyler), what would you consider the essential bootlegs for someone ready to dive into those murky waters? I've followed your fairly typical Floyd arc (at least as far as people my age seem to do) - loved the shit out of them ages 14-17, then decided they were bloated shit from about 18-22, rediscovered how awesome they were for a couple years and OD'ed, then ignored them in favor of other music for the past decade. Now I think I'm ready to delve into the bootlegs.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
I'd go for The BBC Archives for the post-Syd/pre-Dark Side era, and Animal Instincts (the Oakland show) for latter day angry and falling apart Floyd. I'm slightly irrational about the Oakland show; it was the first Floyd boot I ever found, a three lp set called A Great Set. Awesome cover, though not safe for work.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
not even that much of an expert on floyd bootlegs - i'd say just dive in. yeah, those bbc live shows are amazing (that's basically what I linked to above). seek out some of the pre-dark side dark side shows, where they're trying out arrangements of that material. i have a manchester 74 show that i like for the early versions of animals tracks, but that might be made redundant by the live wembley stuff being put out officially. for syd era, what syd wants has some wonderful tracks, but there are others covering that period too.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, thanks!
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link