Best debut novels?

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The Naked and the Dead, Norman Mailer

A Personal Matter, Oe Kenzaburo

silence dogood (catcher), Thursday, 18 January 2007 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link

A Personal Matter, Oe Kenzaburo

I just acquired this from my parents' bookshelf. Talk about it some more.

wmlynch (wlynch), Thursday, 18 January 2007 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

It's highly possible that Lautreamont wins, but then that's the dramatic teenager in me I guess, more than anything, and these are pretty good I think:

Charles Portis, 'Norwood'
Joe Brainard, 'I Remember'
Robert Walser, 'Jakob von Gunten'
Amos Tutuola, 'Palm Wine Drinkard'
Italo Calvino, 'Nest of Spiders'
Stephen Crane, 'Maggie: A Girl of the Streets'
Thomas Pynchon, 'V'

...Is 'Drowned World' Ballard's debut? -- if so, then that one too. I agree that D. Mitchell's debut is amazing, but am surprised none of the Brits have mentioned 'Wasp's Nest' yet.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Thursday, 18 January 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Did Brainard write anything other than the "I Remember" books? It would never have occurred to me to think of that as a "debut" (or a "novel").

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm fairly sure A Personal Matter wasn't Oe's debut. I think it was (maybe) the first of his novels to be translated to English?

Either way, it's terrific.

franny (frannyglass), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know Wasp's Nest do you mean Wasp Factory because that would be an excellent choice.

Edward Trifle (Ned Trifle IV), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

My choices would be The Mezzanine by Nicholson Baker and Lemprière's Dictionary by Lawrence Norfolk.

Edward Trifle (Ned Trifle IV), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You're right, "A Personal Matter" wasn't his Oe's first novel, oops.

Now that I think about it, it should have been obvious giving the novel's content.

The story is, in reference to wmlynch's request, the most aptly named story of all time. It recounts Oe's struggle with the ultra-masculine feelings that come from being young and successful with his impotence in the face of having a braindamaged child.

This is a struggle Oe takes us through in most of his work, and as he does, you get the feeling that writing is what he's doing to get himself through life, with little regard for the reader. I love him.

silence dogood (catcher), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I've not read any of Oe's other stuff, but he's clearly fantastic. The description of the hangover was one of the most physically harrowing things I've ever read.

I still have not read Mezzanine, even though I love Nicholson Baker. It makes me feel like a bad person.

franny (frannyglass), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah that Oe book sounds fantastic. I'll get around to reading it soon.

wmlynch (wlynch), Friday, 19 January 2007 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

x-p1: Ahh sorry yeah I meant 'Wasp's Factory'

x-p2: Joe Brainard has written a LOT, actually, almost all of it "little books." And yes it is def. a stretch to call it a novel -- well, OK it's actually *incorrect* to call it a novel but I just love his work a lot lot lot. If you ever find the 'Collected Writings' book that Kulchur released in the early '70s or the 'New Work' book on Black Sparrow around the same time, pick them up.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The Moviegoer

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Controlled Burn by Scott Wolven (granted, he hasn't written anything else yet...)

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom McCarthy, Remainder.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

stet (stet), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Harper Lee, To Kill A Mockingbird

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 21 January 2007 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

lot to check out! was portrait of the artist.. omitted on purpose?

some faves

Sarah Hall, Haweswater
Alasdair Gray, Lanark
Umberto Eco, The Name of the Rose
Sally Rooney, Conversations with Friends
B.S. Johnson, Travelling People
Flann O'brien, At Swim Two-Birds
Lisa Halliday, Asymmetry

devvvine, Thursday, 2 May 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

the last samurai >>>>

imago, Thursday, 2 May 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

is it time to admit that i found the last samuari pretty insufferable; expected to love it after all the talk i'd read on here

devvvine, Thursday, 2 May 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link

haha it is very annoying, but in a way that i love (and am)

imago, Thursday, 2 May 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link

loved when it would stray into the tangential stories, but man that kid..

should add sebald's vertigo as well

devvvine, Thursday, 2 May 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link

Hunger, Knut Hamsun

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 2 May 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

Marilynne Robinson – Housekeeping was a good call!

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 2 May 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link


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