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another question re: Criterion - Why Armageddon?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

they did armageddon for a number of reasons. first off, michael bay approached them and wanted to see if they wanted to do an edition of the movie. second, if you look at the criterion laserdisc selection, you see a number of mainstream action or disaster movies that just are not available to them on dvd, so they may very well have figured that having any action film is better than no action film in the collection. third, the extras give a unique prospective to how such a film was made... before any other dvd had the production extras available. fourth, they make a lot of money off of this so they can make other films on dvd that may not be as profitable or may even encur a loss.

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 05:19 (twenty years ago) link

criterion sometime uses transfers that were made for foreign dvd releases, as in some of the titles leased from studio canal in france

the relatively feature-less titles appeal to me more, but for sort of personal aesthetic reasons.

i think whether or not criterion has the best transfer of a given film depends on a lot of factors. they do high-quality digital transfers when they can (with some japanese titles, the japanese companies did the transfers which were not up to par) with the best elements they can get access to. sometimes another company will be able to trump them in one department or another, but it does seem as though criterion tries very hard to be the best, and rarely if ever settles for less, as they say.

yeah just think if no "armageddon" then no "haxan" etc

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago) link

i think that's important to note. i certainly had a "what the hell were they thinking?" reaction when i saw "armaggedon" in the criterion catalog. but i understand the need to do it--they do spend a lot of money bringing some fairly obscure films to DVD with excellent transfers, and I'm sure they don't sell in huge numbers.

the problem comes, i guess, when you view Criterion as, well, the "criterion" of good cinema released on dvd. it kind of brings down their prestige of having consistently excellent taste, and associatign a piece of crap like armaggedon to their good name does seem to tarnish their rep a bit, like by accepting it into their "collection," it deserves equal recognition alongside the rest of the films.

maybe it would be better for criterion to have seperate collections? a "masterworks" collection, "contemporary" collection, etc? this would probably cause just as many problems, though--where do you put "in the mood for love" for instance?

i guess we'll just have to suck it up & take it toungue-in-cheek: criterion did, after all, insert an essay into the "armaggedon" release written by one of michael bay's film school professors! it's hillarious that they didn't even bother to get someone to do a serious critique.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

all interesting answers. i wasnt really trying to be snobby about armageddon's inclusion. i have never seen it. i thought the answer would either be economics (as many of you say it is) or maybe that it is a really superlative example of genre filmmaking. I dont think Criterion's name is sullied by more contemporary films, and I would probably be more interested in questioning the inclusion of some Soderberg films more than Armageddon i guess.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

um....did anyone see this, by any chance?

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 4 March 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

Holy mother of christ! Even at the current high-bid it's a bargain!

First bid was $1.00!!!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Thursday, 4 March 2004 03:23 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, too bad i already have a good number of these. its running at like 5 bucks a dvd right now

todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 4 March 2004 03:33 (twenty years ago) link

Not bad. I too already own a hefty chunk of these (something like one-quarter of the collection), and though there are only scant few I'd turn down at this point, I have almost all the ones I really really want.

Hey! How'd they get their Scenes from a Marriage so damned early?!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 March 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

sweet mother of god, I'm selling my car!

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 4 March 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

Jay -- how about, in an act of christian kindness, you buy the whole set for me. To show my gratitude, I will bequeath to you:

Armageddon
The Rock
The Unbearable Lightness of Being

You agree? Great!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

It's official - M is being pulled OOP for a remaster. And the Samurai Trilogy is being offered now as a boxset at a discounted price.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

" it kind of brings down their prestige of having consistently excellent taste, and associatign a piece of crap like armaggedon to their good name does seem to tarnish their rep a bit, like by accepting it into their "collection," it deserves equal recognition alongside the rest of the films."

no one's forcing you to buy it!

welcome to the real world of ECONOMICS

besides, there are worse films

!!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

sorry dude, didn't realize "armageddon" was a life-changing movie for you. and you're right, there are worse films--but i won't name them, because you probably like those too.

and i wouldn't be interested in film and art if I was all the interested in the "real" world.

go back to your economics class.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 4 March 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link

"Jay -- how about, in an act of christian kindness, you buy the whole set for me. To show my gratitude, I will bequeath to you:
Armageddon
The Rock
The Unbearable Lightness of Being

You agree? Great!"

Sure, Buddha, no problem! But you have to add ten copies of "Salo" and we'll have a deal!

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 4 March 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago) link

Even better Complete Criterion collection on ebay (this one even includes the Out-Of-Prints, even "Salo")

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3391356288&category=617

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

Criterion updated their "Coming Soon" page--

http://criterionco.com/asp/coming_soon.asp

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

Damn you! That update's over a week old. I really thought that new stuff was added.

(Yes, I am a Criterion obsessive.)

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

I was having a bit of 3 Women/Rules of the Game/Pickup on South Street inspired ennui for what the rest of the year will bring -- like, what of what I was supposed to look forward to for the year '04 is left?

Then I remembered the impending Eisenstein silents box and it passed.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 7 March 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

Any word on Criterion releasing work by any more avant-garde/experimental filmmakers? the brakhage one seemed to have gone over well.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

See the first answer.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 8 March 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

jay why was your post so belligerent? i hardly attacked you, i just suggested that to make ends meet criterion had to make decisions, decisions which won't always appeal to you, but that's life.

i also don't know where i applauded 'armageddon', i merely suggested that there are worse films that could have been included. perhaps this is some kind of heresy?

!!!! (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

also you're missing a word in this sentence--

"and i wouldn't be interested in film and art if I was all the interested in the "real" world."


so i don't know what you are trying to say.

!!!! (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago) link

replace the first "the" with "that". sorry, i don't have time to proofread everything i write.

and i still find your post more belligerent than mine. it's bad enough to have to be an apologist about my taste in cinema among the average person, but on a site called "i love film"? jesus....

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
http://www.janusfilms.com/janusani.gif

The Janus Box: 47 Criterions + 2 more movies and 3 documentaries for $600

a.b. (alanbanana), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Me Wantee! (altough I'd end up w/several doubles)

Getting back to speculation and wishlists, I wouldn't mind Criterion picking up some of the recently orphaned Janus/Fox Lorber titles (mainly Two English Girls and My Life To Live). Also would like some 80s Godard, Mexican Bunuel and Fellini's Casanova. Pretty please.

Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
janus box now under $500 at deepdiscountdvd with coupon code SUPERSALE

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 10 November 2006 08:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i understand on one level how that's a pretty good deal, but it still seems like way too much up front.

also:

new criterion collection company blog, "on five"

http://www.criterionco.com/blog/

if anyone does a better job than me of finding an rss feed, please share.

andrew s (andrew s), Sunday, 12 November 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

movie streaming now offered at their online site

doesn't look very promising yet

warmsherry, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Hooray for El Norte finally coming out.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

amazon.ca has a lot of criterions on sale this week

Night and the City 16.99
Rashomon 18.99
The Lady Vanishes 2-Disc Set 17.99
39 Steps 16.99
Au Hasard Balthazar 18.99
Il Posto 19.99
The Complete Mr. Arkadin 29.99
The Complete Monterey Pop Festival 28.99

all prices canadian

abanana, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for the heads-up- just ordered Rashomon, Night and the City, and The 39 Steps.

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Seattle's downtown Barnes & Noble (7th & Pine) has a 50%-off sale going on (including multi-disc/box sets). I don't normally set foot in there, but I walked out with 'Wings of Desire', and the "Essential Art House"(i.e. no-frills) editions of 'Ikiru' & 'The 39 Steps'.

Chooglin'alCarbon, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Criterion newsletter just mentioned 50% off sale through the B&N web site (also in-store). All titles except preorders that come out after 11/23 through the 24th.

wmlynch, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

........and rinse, recycle, repeat. Just walked out of B&N today (side note: ungodly amounts of attractive women there on Sunday nights) and they had the 50% off sale in session

Problem was, I don't remember Sanjuro being $40! I couldn't find a damn thing for any less ffs...Amazon, especially with Prime, still reigns supreme

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 November 2011 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

800 criterions free on hulu for the wknd apparently?

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 14 February 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Just saw that on FB -- good move by them.

HuffPo Sideboob/Underboob Bureau Chief (WilliamC), Thursday, 14 February 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

holy shit, where to start

http://www.hulu.com/movies/criterion

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Flash sale:
http://www.criterion.com/sale

LinkedIn Beef (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

I ordered Videodrome on blu-ray and they accidentally sent me the wrong film, so I get to keep both!

Has anyone seen "Brand Upon The Brain!"? Looks very interesting, judging from the case.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

one of Guy Maddin's better features, yeah

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 October 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

excellent!

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Monday, 7 October 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Criterion is leaving Hulu as of November and starting a streaming service with TCM
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/4032-introducing-filmstruck

Hulu's curation was terrible, I'm down with this.

Night after night, for more than twenty years, the programming team at Turner Classic Movies has been exploring the world of film in a smart, adventurous way. They have stuck to their mission, consistently shining a light on the classics, delighting us with their themes, surprising us with their discoveries, and earning our trust. So when they asked us to team up with them to launch FilmStruck, a new subscription streaming service designed for people who love independent, art-house, and international cinema, we were honored and thrilled. Combining Turner’s programming experience with Criterion’s library of films and supplemental content made all the sense in the world.

FilmStruck will be launching this fall on desktop and mobile devices, and internet-connected television platforms. A service built from the start with nothing but movies in mind, it will feature films from many major studios and independent distributors alongside a broad and constantly rotating selection of Criterion films, complete with the commentaries and rich supplemental content that Criterion viewers have come to expect. Carefully curated and always changing, it should be a cinema lover’s dream.

FilmStruck subscribers will also be eligible to sign up for the Criterion Channel, a premium service that will be all Criterion’s own. Once we’re up and running, the Criterion Channel will not only offer continual access to our library of more than 1,100 films, along with their special features, it will also give us the chance to approach the Criterion mission in a whole new way. After thirty years of focusing exclusively on one film or cycle of films at a time, we will now be able to feature a steady stream of original content that runs across filmographies, genres, time periods, and themes. We’ll reach outside our library to include films from major studios and independent rights holders. We’ll tap into our community of filmmakers and experts to act as guest curators and highlight archival discoveries not available on disc or anywhere else. It won’t replace our Blu-rays, but it will definitely add a new dimension to the Criterion experience.

Sometimes it feels like Criterion lives at a crossroads of classic and contemporary cinema. New filmmakers we admire are passing through our offices all the time, mostly drawn by their respect for the classic filmmakers whose work we are privileged to attend to. One of the most exciting things about the Criterion Channel is that it will give us a chance to capture that energy for our audience, to champion and show more films by filmmakers working today, not just the few we have rights to publish on disc. We’ll bring you carefully selected contemporary films that you might not find anywhere else, including streaming premieres, and we’ll invite those filmmakers to champion the classics they love, as they have been doing on our top-ten lists for years—but now the movies will be available for subscribers to watch right on our channel.

The Criterion offering on Hulu will still be available into the month of November, but after that, FilmStruck and the Criterion Channel will be our exclusive streaming home. Feel free to let us know in the comments what you most want from our new streaming service, and be sure to visit FilmStruck.com to sign up for updates and a free trial offer as soon as the the service launches. It’s going to be an exciting new adventure for Criterion, and we hope you’ll make the journey with us.

ulysses, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

not following those threads with this username, my bad.

ulysses, Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

http://betaportal.filmstruck.com/sign-up-now/

Won't let me sign up, though

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

me neither. Super exciting tho'!

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

More info:
http://filmstruck.com/pdf/filmstruck-announcement.pdf
apparently launching in the fall; still no word on how it connects (i presume an app? Hopefully starting with PS4 and iOS and tivo...) or pricing

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Sunday, 18 September 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

On October 19, the Criterion Collection and Turner Classic Movies will launch a subscription streaming service built by people who love movies for people who love movies. It will be unlike anything out there, with thematic programming, introductions, special features, and much more. FilmStruck, the primary service, programmed by the team at TCM, will feature a rotating selection of Criterion titles alongside movies licensed from sources around the world. A premium option for FilmStruck subscribers, the Criterion Channel will be our home base in the streaming space, programmed and produced by the Criterion team, where we can take our mission to a whole new level.

Criterion Channel subscribers will have unlimited access to the largest selection of Criterion titles ever available on a streaming service—all the time. Our own ever-expanding streaming library includes many of the best-known classics in the Criterion Collection, along with hundreds of rare films you won’t find in any other medium, but we’ll also be featuring full Criterion special editions of titles licensed from major studios as well as out-of-print titles and films that have never been available to us on home video. We’ve worked hard to make the Criterion Channel a worthwhile addition for our core Criterion Blu-ray and DVD customers and regular FilmStruck subscribers alike by creating original, channel-exclusive content, director profiles, live events, guest-curated series, and a programming rotation where there will be something new happening just about every night of the week.

We’ve had a great five years at Hulu, but the opportunity to build our own channel with the help of the incredible team at TCM is a dream come true for our company. FilmStruck will be the exclusive streaming home of the Criterion Collection as of November 11, when our library will be leaving Hulu. The monthly cost of FilmStruck and the Criterion Channel together will be $10.99, but you can sign up for the FilmStruck newsletter to receive a free two-week trial offer when the services go live.

We have talked (and debated) for years about the best way to bring some sort of subscription plan to our viewers, and with FilmStruck and the Criterion Channel, we believe we’ve finally found it. The first week on the channel, we’re bringing back the out-of-print commentary from The Silence of the Lambs. Catch a double feature on Friday nights. Find a short with a feature on Tuesdays. The possibilities are endless, and we’ve just begun to explore them. It’s been thirty-three years since Criterion published its first special edition laserdisc and nearly twenty since the dawn of DVD. The launch of FilmStruck and the Criterion Channel marks another exciting beginning for us. We are as committed as ever to publishing the world’s greatest films in definitive Blu-ray and DVD editions, but we think these new services are going to add a whole new dimension to the Criterion experience, and we hope you’ll give them a try.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

Muthafuckin' flash sale on the site. Goddamnit.

Hey, Criterion, if I give you my pay schedule, would you be willing to maybe work with me a little? Totally make it worth your while.

People Have No Idea The Support (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

(Also almost simultaneously got an email about a Scream Factory flash sale, for the more lowbrow among us.)

People Have No Idea The Support (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

Open letter to Criterion. Interesting issue:

http://imgur.com/a/xvAoL

Evan, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Give me Ran back in print, or give me death

Dominique, Monday, 28 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

just get the studiocanal version

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

I heard it is from a worse transfer -- is that not the case?

Dominique, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film5/blu-ray_reviews_71/ran_blu-ray.htm

both the lionsgate and uk blu-rays look ok to me, much better than the criterion dvd. uk 4k version probably has more accurate colors.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Anyone With An L.A. Public Library Card Can Stream The Criterion Collection

http://laist.com/2017/07/13/criterion_lapl.php

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 July 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

why not just borrow the discs?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

subway

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

when FWWM is on CC this fall, Lynch will be able to say "don't watch my movie on the subway"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Technically off topic but heads up on a solid Kino sale featuring a number of films likely to appeal to Criterion heads (planning to go ham on the Fritz Lang myself): https://www.kinolorber.com/list/view/code/junesale19

Morrie Antoilette (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 June 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link

Some tempting stuff on there - never came across Woman in the Moon before, looks interesting. Also tempted by The Vampires.

One Eye Open, Friday, 14 June 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link

(Hint: both of those films are in the Lang box set that's on sale.)

Morrie Antoilette (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 June 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

(Oops, my bad, that is not true of Les Vampires obvs.)

Morrie Antoilette (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 June 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

Everything I want is “Ships to USA and Canada only” gah

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 14 June 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link


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