Classic or dud : Jane's Addiction

Another point is the production on Shocking which I find a little flat - I don't feel that Jerden and Champagne were able to get the best out of the musicians or the Jane's sound at this point, although having said that, I do dig the rawer edge and the more incendiary drum sound.

Whereas on Ritual, the guys at the controls were able to set them for the heart of the sun and that's where the music takes me. As for the first few tracks, I dunno man... from the lead-in narrative, I'm hooked and that buzzsaw Navarro riff. Jesus. Then there's that pop-bass on No One's.. Oh mama. The album is littered with winning creative decisions. Y'know, sometimes in fact, Obvious is my favourite track off Ritual though I'm not sure why. Do you get thet?

Out of curiosity, anyone know about the new Jane's material? From what I can gather of the websites out there, they are in the studio working with fucking Paul Oakenfold! Where the hell is Jerden when you need him?

Where I deviate from the fan party line is that I think _Nothing's Shocking_ and _Ritual De Lo Habitual_ are equal; _NS_ is more consistent, but _RdlH_ has better songs on it. If I wanted to listen to an entire album, I'd grab _NS_. If I wanted to play selected songs, I'd grab _RdlH_.

OK, so it's not the Academy but it's not a bad compromise.

Better get on the blower to the ticket agencies pronto then...

Hello.

uh, Neil Young? The only thing Jane's brought together were fratboys and fratgirls.

Verdict - Dud. They lie too much for truthseekers and are too pretentious to create something communal. And the junk culture stuff I have no use for.

Exception: Jane Says. Momentarily, the dream is alive. Especially when Dave Navarro isn't around.

Classic. Shocking is only nearly classic, but Ritual is beyond classic.

provided you skip "Been Caught Stealing."

Are you mad? (Mind you, the song always sounded better live.)

I don't know much about Farrell as a person/ality. Why is he punchable?

Completely dud. Their brains are fried to the max. They look like shit. They're music is just plain bonkers like Zappa's: tries to be funny but fails miserably. I suspect they tried to do the sock thing but they couldn't find any baby socks...

And to think I'm reading the Brendan Mullen oral biography now. I still really don't understand why I even bothered to buy the book, even though I am not as hostile towards them as I once was. That said, PF seems to be such a dick. I also can't believe the "they are incredibly seminal, paved the way for the rest" bullshit line. I mean, maybe they were (in reality) but I refuse to believe it anyway.

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Classic
Classic
Classic

My little sister came over the other day to rip all my Jane's Addiction CDs. Her quip: "Yeah, I've really wanted to listen to Jane's Addiction lately, but couldn't bring myself to buy them." They belong to a different era, and stick out like a sore thumb in this one. But we listened to Nothings Shocking, and it still pushed my wig back with its bombastic excellence.

Kids who could never see eye to eye on anything - long hair in front vs. hair long in back, dead milkmen vs. led zeppelin, goth chicks and smiths fans, our u.s. equivalents of ravey davey and also student grant could all sing along

Jane's pretty much united the smoking section at my high school.

Classic.

Just Because.

i like them a lot but they definitely shone in a particular time and place. it resonates a lot less now, but the succession of 'three days' and 'then she did...' is still pretty mindblowing.

I saw Satellite Party (Perry's new band) supporting Velvet Revolver on Thursday night. Never heard anything by them before, they were... ok. They did two JA songs - Stop! and Mountain Song - which got the biggest applause of the night.

It was a little bit sad though. I think maybe half of the people there knew who Perry Farrell was, half of them didn't care. People were just talking and drinking and paying no attention to this man who gave me one of the greatest nights of my life - Jane's Addiction live in a club in London in about 1987

I find JA kind of annoying, but I missed out on them at the time they were around, hence missing out on their cultural context, which a lot of the above comments talk about.

also, i once saw my dad flipping channels, and the "been caught stealing" video was on. He muttered, "obscene son of a bitch..." under his breath before changing the channel.

yeah, now (this day and age) really isn't a particularly appropriate time to be considering this question somehow

Flipped my lid over "Jane Says" again which I played while running last week, and also heard in a small bar (pub) just after the World Cup.

UGH @ this band

Mostly dud. I liked the second half of Ritual where Farrell's awful lyrics and singing kind of disappear beneath the jam session when it came out, but they were so omnipresent at the time I might just have been looking for a silver lining to make listening to that album less annoying. The "hits" are all uniformly terrible.

"then she did" is one of the great all time sublime epic jams. i've been playing it on the juke box every time i hit the pool hall. i don't lose when it's on

they had their moments.

"pets" was played somewhere last week.
brought back some memories.
good song.

Pets, yeah. That one was pretty good. Wasn't that a side project after JA though?

The "hits" songs are all uniformly terrible.

Porno for Pyros
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i think it's been mentioned 10 x in this thread, but the second half of ritual makes all the other silliness associated with this band almost worth it.

Ritual and Nothing's Shocking are awesome.

Perry Ferrell is a dick.

Back once more:

...it was confirmed on Dave Navarro's blog Tuesday that the entire lineup would reunite Thursday for a full show at La Cita Bar in downtown Los Angeles. The night is hosted by Shepard Fairey, who will break away from maniacally screenprinting Obama posters and T-shirts for the evening.

Eric A's been back with them this time around. Too little, too late. (His solo album's all right enough.)

http://xiola.org/

2.25.09

i got my hands on some digital pics of jane's addiction's boxset cabinet of curiosities coming out april 21st and a track list. the packaging looks cool as shit. from the pics you can see quite a bit went into packaging. there is one main booklet, four individual sleeves highly decorated. it's gonna be four discs, 3 audio, one dvd.

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unofficial track list

DISC [1]
0.CD
1.JANE SAYS (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [UNRELEASED]
2.PIGS IN ZEN (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SCREAM - THE COMPILATION]
3.MOUNTAIN SONG (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [OST: DUDES]
4.HAD A DAD (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]
5.I WOULD FOR YOU (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]
6.IDIOT'S RULE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
7.CLASSIC GIRL [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
8.UP THE BEACH [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
9.SUFFER SOME [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
10.THANK YOU BOYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
11.SUMMERTIME ROLLS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
12.CITY [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
13.OCEAN SIZE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
14.STOP [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
15.STANDING IN THE SHOWER?THINKING [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
16.AIN'T NO RIGHT [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
17.THREE DAYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]

DISC [2]
0.CD
1.TED, JUST ADMIT IT [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]
2.MACEO [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]
3.NO ONE'S LEAVING [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]
4.MY TIME (REHEARSAL) [UNRELEASED]
5.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (12"" REMIX) [SINGLE]
6.RIPPLE [DEDICATED]
7.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER, WHITEY [PROMO] *JANE'S ADDICTION & BODY COUNT
8.L.A. MEDLEY (LIVE) [SINGLE]
9.KETTLE WHISTLE (LIVE) [VARIETY ARTS CENTER(7/10/1987)]
10.WHOLE LOTTA LOVE (LIVE) [SACRAMENTO (7/8/1987)]
11.1970 (LIVE) [SEATTLE (12/11/1987)]
12.BOBHAUS (LIVE) [SEATTLE (3/29/1989)]
13.JUST BECAUSE (ACOUSTIC) [UNRELEASED]
14.SUFFER SOME (LIVE) [SINGLE]
15.THE PRICE I PAY (LIVE) [SINGLE]

DISC [3]
0.CD
1.DRUM INTRO [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
2.UP THE BEACH (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]
3.WHORES (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
4.1% (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
5.NO ONE'S LEAVING (LIVE) [SINGLE]
6.AIN'T NO RIGHT (LIVE) [SINGLE]
7.THEN SHE DID (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
8.HAD A DAD (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
9.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
10.THREE DAYS (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]
11.MOUNTAIN SONG (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
12.STOP! (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]
13.SUMMERTIME ROLLS (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
14.OCEAN SIZE (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]

DISC [4]
0.DVD
1.MOUNTAIN SONG (UNEDITED) [SOUL KISS]
2.CITY [SOUL KISS]
3.HAD A DAD [PROMO CLIP]
4.MOUNTAIN SONG [PROMO CLIP]
5.STOP! [PROMO CLIP]
6.AIN'T NO RIGHT [PROMO CLIP]
7.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING [PROMO CLIP]
8.CLASSIC GIRL [PROMO CLIP]
9.OCEAN SIZE [PROMO CLIP]
10.JANES SAYS [PROMO CLIP]
11.WHORES [LIVE - ITALY]
12.THREE DAYS [LIVE - ITALY]
13.THEN SHE DID [LIVE - ITALY]
14.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER WHITEY (LIVE) [UNRELEASED]

Hmm. Well that I'll get.

otoh i understand people putting out these tricked-out sets and everything because how else are you going to get anyone to spend any money on music. but even people who don't live in city apartments don't have like endless amounts of display space for all this stuff, do they? i literally would have no place to put that thing. (yes ok i could buy it, rip it and throw away the box. but jeez.)

gimme the dvd, the rest i can take or leave. even the shittiest janes youtube clips are pretty enthralling.

Got the advance of this box in this morning's mail. I was at the show included on Disc 3, so am pretty excited to dig into that, but the demos and such on the first two discs look pretty compelling too.

Oh, now I have to buy that.

BTW, I always thought it was: "One night I met a poet."

Yeah I'm definitely getting this.

Yeah, it seems pretty clearly to be "One night I met a poet." I was listening to that song not two days ago and had absolutely no confusion about the lyric...

It's very distinctly that and not anything else, although Raggett's suggestion is superiorl.

superior.

Superiorlol. And I still prefer it.

I was at the show included on Disc 3

Okay so I hate you (I remember being pissed I had to miss that show -- that and the Pet Shop Boys in March 1991 are my two greatest 'argh if only' regrets from UCLA days, I think. I did see Jane's about a month or so later at the Universal with NIN opening, though, so there's that.)

Oh shit, this band.

I believe he played on Exquisite Corpse by Warpaint

A guy is know is buddies with Josh, I'll ask if he ever played on a Warpaint EP (in case it comes up)

Exquisite Corpse iirc

Warpaint fans are subculture called juggalos

Stella added so much to that band

this is reminding me that i read a Rolling Stone (?) profile of Josh K after he'd been dumped from the RHCP - it was quite affecting actually, a young guy trying to navigate difficult emotional territory - can't remember if it mentioned Warpaint?

Very specific Venn diagram intersection here:

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Definitely paints a unique picture.

California JNSAYS Patriots

Been Caught Deflating

Tom, Just Admit It...

Pig(sk)in Zen

Three Plays

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Nerdy I know, I think recordings of Jane's from that 90/91 period that are taken from further away really suit the setting, I like the way you can hear the music bouncing around the auditorium a little on the right channel.

I see Janes are touring the UK soon but no word on whether Navarro is back or not

I see they are playing Glasgow Barrowlands, tempted to make a trip, last saw them there *cough* 32 years ago

The new Porno For Pyros song isn’t really anything special, but is probably the best thing I’ve heard from Perry in a very long time.

“We’re from LA and we can’t be stopped” amen

encouraging signs of Navarro being back in the fold

would be glad to see a legacy-burnishing final act from the OG lineup

new music could go either way but would always be interested to hear something with Avery and Navarro on board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGzFMUX-w7U

man Mike Watt. God bless that man