There's no straight-up "classic or dud" thread because everyone thinks she's classic.
Not everyone, apparently. From AMG's review of Promise:
was once again the personification of cool, laid-back singing, seldom extending or embellishing lyrics, registering emotion, or projecting her voice. This demeanor made her more desirable in the minds of many fans and was perhaps the ultimate misapplication of the notion of sophistication.
From AMG's review of Stronger Than Pride:
After two LPs with little or no energy, Sade demonstrated some intensity and fire on her third release. . . . Not that she was suddenly singing in a soulful or bluesy manner; rather, Sade's dry and introspective tone now had a little more edge, and the lyrics were ironic as well as reflective.
AMG was also lukewarm on Diamond Life. To be fair, all three of these reviews were written by the same reviewer (Ron Wynn). Still, I'm surprised, since I've always thought that AMG seemed pretty generous to artists (maybe that's a complete misperception).
FWIW -- not much, I know -- I like Sade, but I don't think she's as great as most others here apparently do. De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
I know I'm gonna sound like some random googler, but, Sade? I love her. I mean, I really, really love her.
(Um, classic obv.)
― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 06:56 (sixteen years ago) link
That is a really rare contrarian POV for AMG.
― Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:31 (sixteen years ago) link
PS: Most classic for me of all her classic moments: "Every day is Christmas / And every night is New Year's Eve."
― Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:32 (sixteen years ago) link
live album is good
― chaki, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 08:04 (sixteen years ago) link
'By Your Side' is very soothing
― joedee, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Bimble, don't be so literal! I started this one in 2001:
Sade: Hologram or Dud?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link
If anyone's interested in what a Sade/Massive Attack Collabo might have sounded like, this is probably the closest thing to it -
Sade - "Love Is Stronger Than Pride (Mad Professor Mix)"
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sks22h
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link
There's also a shitty Neptunes remix of 'By your side' floating around
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link
It's on the single. I don't like it mainly because it changes the chord progression, rendering Sade's singing faintly ridiculous for anyone who loves the original..
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link
theres a vinyl 2x lp of a bunch of remixes of sade out there that includes that mad prof. mix. I saw it the other day at a record store
― deej, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link
It's OK. Don't spend a fortune on it, tho
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link
heres one from what.cd
sade - best of (the remixes)
01-sade-love_is_stronger_than_pride__mad_professor_mix 02-sade-give_it_up__kenny_larkin_rmx 03-sade-kiss_of_live__deep_mix 04-sade-feel_no_pain__nellie_hooper_mix 05-sade-turn_my_back_on_you__heffs_mix 06-sade-sweetest_taboo__extended_version 07-sade-i_never_thought_id_see_the_day__danny_tenaglias_musk_men_mix 08-sade-by_your_side__ben_watt_mix 09-sade-somebody_already_broke_my_heart__excursions_mix
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link
oh man im listening to that neptunes by your side and yes it is awful - talk abt completely missing the mark uhg
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess I should have said "Everyone thinks she's classic except for one AMG reviewer who doesn't post here anyway and is more on-the-fence than negative, anyway."
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I remember that Kenny Larkin remix of 'Give it Up' as being pretty good?
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link
You're in luck: http://turbocity.blogspot.com/2007/09/best-of-remixessade.html
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link
As much as I love Sade I don't understand how a live album could be worth having. I've been to one of her shows (at Madison Square Garden) and it was mindblowing, but aside from a conga flourish or two, the music itself seemed exactly the same as on record..
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM. Live DVDs on the other hand...
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link
the live DVDs are very nice. smoke some herb, watch it with your lady. the bomb.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
god, 'no ordinary love' is so fucking beautiful.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 31 August 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
YOUR LOVE IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
― dell, Sunday, 31 August 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link
was she really a junkie?
― dell, Sunday, 31 August 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
!!! surely not !!!
― I know, right?, Sunday, 31 August 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
no, i was reading some brit music magazine years ago and they more than hinted at her being into that shit
but maybe the british music press does that with any given random artist as easily as the rest of us sneeze when presented with a cotton swab tickling our nose hairs
― dell, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
nice
― I know, right?, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I know, right?
― dell, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
...
― I know, right?, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link
God you really hate it when people do that, don't you, I know, right?
― Bimble, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Sade is too excellent to go on.
― Abbott, Monday, 1 September 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Also she is way too beautiful to believe.
― Abbott, Monday, 1 September 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
ABBOTT BE SPEAKING THE TRUTH YO
I know I've made an ass out of myself here before, but Sade is the most attractive woman to have ever made music, ever. Why isn't she my wife? She's the creme de la creme.
― Sacriligiously Dead (Bimble), Sunday, 24 May 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
bought this guy yesterday at flea market:
http://www.discogs.com/Sade-Couldnt-Love-You-More/release/105842
― when an old mousketeer leaves the crease (donna rouge), Sunday, 24 May 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/11/24/PH2009112403079.jpg
FEB 8th. Stoked.
― lyrically launched salvo on a plethora of esteemed artist (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
dope cover imo
― lyrically launched salvo on a plethora of esteemed artist (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 06:02 (fourteen years ago) link
wooooahhhhhhhhh
― spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess this deserves its own thread, huh?
― i and iiiijjjj (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Sade - Soldier of Love
― i and iiiijjjj (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:18 (fourteen years ago) link
HOLY SHIT
― jØrdån (omar little), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
LOVE SADE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvcNtoHwd6Y
this is one of the best sade things ever
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
that whole live dvd, jeez
― saaberonixx (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
hmm i dunno titchy, that youtube sounds pretty cheap
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Saturday, 20 February 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link
actually best live cut is of 'smooth operator' -- crazy-ass coda
RT @ToureX: People are like afraid to say Sade's album is blah bc she's such an icon and so beloved. But it is. 9:57 AM Feb 19th from TweetDeck
I haven't heard the new one but I thought I'd post this just to show that some folks don't like the new one (or at least one person!)
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 February 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's just that one guy.
btw the best (and perhaps only good) sade remix is Tattoo (House Mix) (i think that's what it's actually called on the 12" vinyl, though on youtube it's "deep house vocal mix))
― messiahwannabe, Sunday, 21 February 2010 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link
nah tb perfecttly honest, I still haven't been won over by this album. Haven't given up on it though
― saaberonixx (baaderonixx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 09:58 (fourteen years ago) link
xp multiple ppl on this thread have expressed similar sentiments
― soft serve space age blap (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 February 2010 10:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i think ppl were expecting a more uptempo jamming joint & instead its pretty ballad-heavy.
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Sunday, 21 February 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I expected better programmed drum machines.
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 February 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the consensus is that Soldier of Love was a bit underwhelming?
No way.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link
Alfred otm
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link
i guess i'll pay whatever i have to when she tours
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link
absolutely the best arena show i've ever seen, definitely do so.
― adam, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link
haha I just knew Alfred would be into it
not for me
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:33 (one year ago) link
"Soldier of Love" (the song) ruled live. As did Sade on that last tour.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link
― corrs unplugged
Ha. Does anyone else think Diamond Life their weakest? Apart from the singles and Timmy Thomas cover it's hard to remember how the tracks go when I look at the listing.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link
I think Lovers Rock and Love Deluxe tower over the rest
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link
diamond life is so amazing it feels wrong to call it the weakest anything but it is my least favorite sade record yes
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link
I saw the Love Deluxe tour. Life-changing.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
I'm sure I've detailed it upthread somewhere but I saw her live at MSG and was up in the cheap seats with my friends, having just bought hot dogs and beer, when out of nowhere somebody in a hi-vis vest started handing out free floor tickets. We were agog. Eventually we were led down to the floor, where folding metal chairs had been set up in rows, and waiters wearing waistcoats were swanning around with trays of plastic champagne flutes with strawberries floating in them. Every time we stood up to dance we got yelled at by the people behind us. Well excuuuuuuuse me! Afterwards somebody was telling me that she's famous for leaving the building before the last notes of the encore have even finished playing. GOAT
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
Afterwards somebody was telling me that she's famous for leaving the building before the last notes of the encore have even finished playing
oh man what a power move, absolute queen.
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link
it's a huge ask for me to go to anything, i hate crowds and i live in the fucking wilderness and everything is sign-over-your-car-title expensive now etc, but if she ever makes a stop in l.a. and i still have a grand on my credit card i would at least make an attempt to get tickets and airfare.
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaD3SgPuccE
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
no reason, this simply rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ptJw8uWE0
"love is stronger than pride (mad professor remix)" (1992)
― "i'm grateful." (Austin), Saturday, 28 January 2023 01:47 (one year ago) link
Yes it does.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
oh def
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
what's the category above 'classic'
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
i always considered that like the blueprint, or the prototype... or maybe like the "pocket translator" level. like, right then: welcome to day one. this is where you sort out the standard definition. have a great time.
― "i'm grateful." (Austin), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
xp iconic
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link
happy 65th
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 23:20 (three months ago) link