"Something fishy's going on when unassuming swell-heads like these dabblers start releasing their worktapes. As cluttered and undistinguished as the MOR fusion and prog-rock it brings to the mind's ear, this album has none of the songful sweep of Remain in Light or the austere weirdness of Jon Hassell, and the vocal overlays only intensify its feckless aura. C+"
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 3 September 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link
That's rich. Xgau has never been more off point.
― original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 4 September 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Sunday, 4 September 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 4 September 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Sunday, 4 September 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 5 September 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 5 September 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 5 September 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
But I AM ugly.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 5 September 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link
It appears that Nonesuch will revisit the classic Brian Eno/David Byrne album, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts. But wait..there's definitely more. This will be an expanded version. I don't know about you but that was one of my favourite albums for quite a long time. In fact, I still listen to it from time to time, so you already know what a madman I'm going to be awaiting this one. Someone straitjacket me. My Life In the Bush of Ghosts arrives on March 28. Watch these pages for info as it becomes available.
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 10 February 2006 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 10 February 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link
"The CD contains remastered versions of the original album tracks (sans "Qu'ran", which was only available on the first issues of the album and removed for later pressings because of sampled parts from the Quran) plus previously unreleased bonus tracks:
1. America Is Waiting2. Mea Culpa3. Regiment4. Help Me Somebody5. The Jezebel Spirit6. Very, Very Hungry7. Moonlight in Glory8. The Carrier9. A Secret Life10. Come with Us11. Mountain of Needles
Bonus tracks:12. Pitch to Voltage13. Two Against Three14. Vocal Outtakes15. New Feet16. Defiant17. Number 8 Mix18. Solo Guitar with Tin Foil
When MLITBOG was originally released, a bootleg LP surfaced with some unreleased tracks (including the original version of "Jezebel Spirit" with Kathrin Kuhlman smaples) and alternative versions with weird titles. It's not sure if these tracks are featured on the new CD or if this is 'new' unreleased material."
― weekly handle change (haitch), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 10 February 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000E5N634.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
― telephone thing, Friday, 10 February 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 10 February 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 11 February 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― weekly handle change (haitch), Saturday, 11 February 2006 05:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 11 February 2006 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 11 February 2006 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 11 February 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 11 February 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 11 February 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 11 February 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
there were four non-album tracks on the original bootleg, including the Kuhlman version of 'jezebel spirit' (and I'd be surprised if that track is one of these new tracks). so there's lots of new stuff here, even for those who already have the lo-fidelity bootleg.
― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 12 February 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 12 February 2006 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, I've got both "Q'uran" and "Very, Very Hongro" on my version and it's not like the disc I have is some Holy Grail -- it's just the normal Sire edition. I was wondering if it might've had something to do--oh, I dunno--with the fact that it's 2006, there's a perceived war against Islam going on, and the likes of France and Denmark are being burned to the ground.
The thing about Bush of Ghosts is that it's exactly what the fanboys say it is and what the critics gripe about as well. Which is to say that it's this largely unprecedented fusion of musics and cultures while also being a tinny, unholy mashup that isn't the sum of its parts.
I'd argue that latter part of that probably wasn't intentional--there's no denying it does sound like it was thrown together by a couple of nerdy white guys who know their electronics a hell of a lot better than they do their African music--but the record is more about authenticity than it is authentic. I mean, fuck taking "Music in the World of Islam" or Dunya Yusin without permission -- the whole Bush of Ghosts concept was thieved from Jon Hassell!
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 12 February 2006 07:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 12 February 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Holger Czukay might have something to say about that.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Talking-heads.net has this info on that bootleg:
My Life in the Bush of Ghosts outtakes (45 min) (CD “Ghosts”)
Interview with Brian Eno - Mea Culpa - Into the Spirit Womb (orig version of “The Jezebel Spirit”) - Regiment - The Friends of Amos Tutuola - America is Waiting - The Carrier - Very Very Hungry - On the Way to Zagora - Les Hommes ne le Sauront Jamais - A Secret Life - Come With Us - Mountain of Needles
But there seems to be yet another version(scroll down) with these extra tracks (was that pink thing the cover of the first edition?) :
- Cunning Tendacy (sic)- interview- Iron Bed- Late But Not Serious- Lot (= Into the spirit womb = the jezebel spirit original)- The Carrier (about a minute longer, extra vocals in the middle)
(found these online, so they do exist) - I presume this second one is also a bootleg?
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
*cough*
I listened to this album over and over when it came out. Now I wouldn't exactly call it horrible, but I don't think it's very good. It mostly is of historical interest, without deserving any lost classic status. Also, I think this was a case where having heard Eno providing background on the source material in an interview contributed a lot to my enthusiasm for the record.
If you want to hear recitation of the Qur'an, it's not hard to find recordings. Putting a lame rhythm track underneath does not improve it (though I am a little sad it is being left off the album under pressure--see the Danish Muhammad Cartoon thread). I prefer solo recitation, rather than the sort of group recitation that appears on the samples on this album. (The latter really seems to be more about communal worship, while the solo recordings tend to have more artistry to them.)
Samira Tewfic is on this too, though I only properly discovered her in 1993/4. Now there's someone who needs to be reissued, seriously.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
http://kikka.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/images/enobyrne2.jpg
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Nick Holmes (nother), Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I tend to associate all those evangelist-sampling songs (stuff like Front 242) that were popular a little bit later with this record, not that there is necessarily a direct line of influence. (I'm sure you could find earlier examples.)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Shocklee/Bomb Squad, mentioned upthread.
Qur'an was taken off the record years ago, I doubt current events had anything to do with it.
Based on looking at Amazon, I believe it was taken off the second edition vinyl issue, put back on the first CD, and taken off again more recently. BTW, here's an odd tidbit for a little perspective, courtesy of an Amazon reviewer:
'I initially heard of it thanks to a recommendation by Pink Floyd's keyboardist Richard Wright, in a 1996 interview given to Record Collector Magazine.Mr. Wright (who incidentally also thinks highly of Remain in Light) describes his first reaction to the album, presumably on its initial release: "This knocked me sideways when I first heard it--full of drum loops, samples and soundscapes, stuff that we really take for granted now, but which was unheard of in all but the most progressive musical circles at the time."'
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 12 February 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
cunning tendacy = on the way to zagorairon bed = the friends of amos tutuolalate but not serious = les homes ne sauront jamaisinto the spirit womb = lot = the jezebel spirit (original)
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 12 February 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
For better or worse, Moby's Play.
― Deluxe (Damian), Sunday, 12 February 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link
like Ned hinted at, Hassell does not have the copyright on cross-cultural tape collage -- Czukay / Dammers' 'Canaxis' 1968, Richard Maxfield's 'Bacchanale', 1963, and James Tenney's 'Viet Flakes' 1967, all worth mentioning in reviews if you're going to get archival on us -- none of those are pop, though even there there's precedent in Czukay's 'Movies' from 1979.
Hassell overstates his case, he already had amazing solo records out & there's no confusion as to who was doing what, though yeah it would have been great if he'd been in on the sessions for this record.
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Nick Holmes (nother), Monday, 13 February 2006 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd venture that the difference between Harrison and Byrne in this case has more to do with the type of "recontextualization" they're interested in -- with Harrison it seems like it had more to do with experimentation and spirituality, with Byrne it seems to be more about anxiety and dislocation.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 27 April 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link
.... pretty please....?
― Pober Saltine, Thursday, 11 May 2006 06:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 11 May 2006 06:53 (seventeen years ago) link
How is this album a more "intelligent" use of world music elements?
-- Tim Ellison (thefriendlyfriendlybubbl...), April 26th, 2006.
This is only tangentially related, but Jon Pareles and David Lewiston (Nonesuch Explorer series dude) were just on Soundcheck on WNYC talking about what "world music" is and George Harrison figured heavily in the discussion. The really interesting bits, though, are the parts where Lewiston talks about his first trip to Bali to record gamelan music:
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episodes/2006/05/10
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WSwpm0N8yMA/T8TAFLnG1mI/AAAAAAAAANY/tEZrq_u-Wxw/s1600/scan0001.jpg
http://mywalloftapes.blogspot.com/2012/05/life.html
still hissy, mastered very quiet, but still, better fidelity than the Ghosts bootleg
― Milton Parker, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Unfortunately, that's gone.
I recently pulled this out again as I got interested in finding out how Eno was using his AMS DMX delay box to do the cut-up vocals on this (that's been unsuccessful).
But a few days ago, I found an interview from 1980 with Eno in which he talks about MLitBoG a bit -- and plays a few rough mixes he'd done of "America Is Waiting" (sans vocals, which he calls "Garbage Disco"), "Mea Culpa" (just the synth arpeggio and vocals), and a very early version of "The Carrier" (I think -- I get some of those tracks on the second side mixed up). Pretty interesting stuff:
http://ubu.com/sound/eno.html
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
oh, cool, think i've just heard an excerpt of that interview. thanks!
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Rough mixes supposedly from a cassette Byrne gave to a guy when he was living in Alphabet City in the late 70s/early 80s. By far the best quality boots I've heard of this material.
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1121
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
Holy shit, this sound pretty familiar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIas_yxduDw
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 October 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link
Admittedly late but what am I missing here, Josh? Is that supposed to be a groove Eno and Byrne appropriated?
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 31 March 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link
Kind of reminiscent of Regiment?
― PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 05:02 (seven years ago) link
No resemblance at all. A groove's a groove's a groove.
― Max Florian, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:54 (seven years ago) link
So this is being reissued again, on vinyl this time, with additional bonus tracks:
http://hhhhappy.com/my-life-in-the-bush-of-ghosts-set-for-vinyl-reissue-with-new-surprises/
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 September 2017 04:54 (six years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/aug/11/better-late-than-never-how-brian-eno-and-david-byrne-finally-laid-a-musical-ghost-to-rest
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
that's really interesting, thanks!
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link
The Rolling Stone article mentioned towards the end is fascinating as well: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/my-life-in-the-bush-of-ghosts-252823/
I was expecting "sampling isn't real music" but it's a lot more nuanced, and encapsulates all of the criticisms that were levelled at world music many years later. Eno and Byrne just brush it off in their article.
So, I guess people from the past weren't a bunch of stupid racists after all. It also reminds me that I haven't read anything at all by Marshall McLuhan. He was huge before I was born, but when I was young it was all No Logo and whatever else you were supposed to pretend to read to be hip. McLuhan was a bit old-hat back then. I learn from the internet that he wasn't a real Marshall. That was just his name.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link
I never thought that Pareles review was able to land a convincing blow. Like: "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts does make me wonder, though, how Byrne or Eno would react if Dunya Yusin spliced together a little of 'Animals' and a bit of 'The Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch,' then added her idea of a suitable backup. Does this global village have two-way traffic?"... Is he really suggesting he thinks they'd be upset? Seems like they would each have died to hear what that would have sounded like!
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
No Dunya Younes albums on Spotify
― curmudgeon, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR715ql1-Fk
― MaresNest, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
that is awesome
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link