Bad Brains: RFI/D

No, man. But uhm got the orig "Rock for Light" today and it's so great I just gotta revive

In fact when this version of "Right Brogade" kicked in I actually yelled "OH YEAH!!!!". I am on my own. I'm putting off going out for this rec. No higher praise can actually be afforded a rock record. Give me a week and I may have to change my position pretty squarely.

roffle @ people criticizing production jobs on late 70s/early 80s hardcore records.

black dots is pretty tight, I thought it was just some cash-in shit but I love the raw, upfront sound. 4 guys in a room kicking ass.

the black dots version of "pay to cum" is my favorite version of that song

INCREDIBLE

http://www.spinner.com/2006/09/26/exclusive-watch-bad-brains-live-at-cbgb-1982-dvd/

wau wau wow

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So MTV this week in between commercials and early morning videos (between around 6 and 8 a.m. est) is showing footage of current Bad Braisn jamming and such. I think I recognize Dr. Know and Daryl Jennifer, but am not sure about the rest. Is that HR? They do not sound like the Bad Brains I saw back in the 79 to 85 era...

HR is still in the band but by all accounts his contribution to live performances now is reminiscent of Weekend At Bernie's

The utter shock of seeing them with regularity on MTV was completely erased for me by the noodling nature of the clips. I would think that anyone who has only heard about how great the Bad Brains are would see those clips and wonder what the big deal is.

Exactly right.

are these clips online?

http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2008/02/04/artist-of-the-week-bad-brains/

LOL

RFID?

that first clip kinda sounds like Stain-era Living Colour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHJ_a8ydUY
Bad Brains - Paranoid

now ever since '79 h.r.'s been poppin' his collar, poppin' poppin' his collar

check the backflip at the end

Fucking incredible. What a band. True innovators. One day, they'll be respected like the Stooges are now.

I've had Bad Brains forever but have never heard Rock For Light. Does anyone prefer RFL to the original and why?

rock for light is longer and has more great songs (including alot of which are on s/t) but has worse production than s/t and does have some shit songs. you can't really go wrong though, seeing as s/t is the single greatest fucking punk album ever.

My Bad Brains interview in Spin, 1987:

http://books.google.com/books?id=komIU8HDrboC&pg=PA83&dq=bad+brains+chuck+eddy&rview=1&cd=1#v=onepage&q=bad%20brains%20chuck%20eddy&f=false

the new darryl jennifer album sounds kinda incredible to me

Wow, did not know there was one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Live-Cbgb-1982-Region-NTSC/dp/B000GI3RKQ

Just buy this and see why they were so, so, very excellent

that is some valuable advice for people unaware that bad brains are so so very excellent

listening to black judas: kinda lol but yeah, good

this clip is gr8.. outside stage, chevrolet banner, fist-pumping 80s crowdgoers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53tUc4Ub2zQ

Was just going to mention the '87 Florida set, odd that it appeared today. Great great set, band's on fire.

Hitched the '89 UK tour. Was fun. Gabba of Chaos Uk wound up getting a lift from somewhere near Bristol to the top of the M5 in a truck with a racist driver. Bumped into him as he got out of the cab at hitching point.

Trying to think what the name of the Best of cd which seems to have pretty decent sound is. What's on my walkman comes from there, think it includes Rock For Light stuff.

I have listened to thousands of bands in my life. When people ask me what my favorite band is, I say that I have heard so much music I cannot really narrow down a list to one single favorite. However, if you held a gun to my head, the first thing out of my mouth would be the Bad Brains and I'd be okay with that.

I often said that the ROIR tape was the best hardcore album ever but "I Against I" was the best album ever. A little hyperbole, but not that much now that I think about it.

Those videos are great! The old one, the one from '87, just amazing!

I got to see the original lineup of the band a few times. The last was in Cleveland in 2002 I think, a reunion tour that had as support a new band featuring the original Faith No More Singer (he was a chef in Cleveland by then!) and HR spent the whole show in a rocking chair on the stage. Very bizarre but unsurprisingly so.

In the article in Spin that xhuxk posted above (some time ago), the photo they used is the one from the inside of the 'I Against I' vinyl. The skinheaded dude right under the drum kit is Raybeez from Warzone. He was doing security at that early show.

Many years later, he and I became friendly in New York and he did security for all the shows at The Ritz and Roseland. I caught the Bad Brains at the latter venue and he was up front. I went up to him and said "Man, it's like that photo" and he smiled, knowing what I was talking about, and said he wouldn't rather be anywhere but right there.

Unbelievably amazing band and a big part of my life.

Am I correct for feeling physically ill and actually offended that Bad Brains are *supporting* something called Slightly Stoopid:

http://www.greektheatrela.com/events/event_details.asp?id=1986

ugh i fucking hate that band

Slightly Stoopid b/w Bad Brains and the Dum Dum Girls.

Yeah, the fact that Rock For Light has been out of print in its proper form for 30+ years is a fucking crime. It's their best album IMO. (I have a German import CD from the early '90s that has the original mix.)

This is awesome news!

For the self-titled, they show cassette and CD options but you can't choose those for some reason. Guessing still hammering out the kinks, regardless I'm so glad this stuff will be getting out there again.

I notice none of the SST stuff, whose rights I guess will forever be in the hands of Mr. Ginn.

More titles will be added to the series as Bad Brains regains control of additional masters.

Perhaps they're in the process of wrangling those rights at the moment. I never really understand why it's such a struggle, certainly so much that the Huskers guys essentially gave up the fight - Meat Puppets and Dinosaur got their rights back, Sonic Youth reissued Sister via Geffen IIRC. I also don't understand why Ginn's reluctant to relinquish those tapes, since he appears to have no interest in exploiting them financially, or preserving SST's legacy.

I love these records, though Bad Brains' homophobia casts a long shadow over their music. When I interviewed Bob Mould over the summer and we discussed the early days of hardcore, he was quick to mention the "die faggots die" note they left after staying over at Grant's parents' house. He was still, justifiably, angry about it.

I am confused about the rights, tho, because I'm pretty sure some I Against I stuff was on that compilation they put out 15 years or so ago.

why it's such a struggle, certainly so much that the Huskers guys essentially gave up the fight - Meat Puppets and Dinosaur got their rights back, Sonic Youth reissued Sister via Geffen IIRC.

this isn't strictly true, i spoke with terry katzman before he died and they used the same lawyers, tried but there were specific things in the husker contracts that were worse than the meat puppets and dino contracts, didn't get into the specifics

also i think ginn knows mould is really well off and really wanted to shake him down

Sounds like exactly the kind of asshole Ginn would be. It makes me so mad that so much of the SST catalog is just sitting there, idle. Not that i want Ginn to profit off it while he continues to fuck over the artists, but that stuff should be getting lovingly reissued by someone.

man I wish I Against I could get the full treatment, remixed and dried out...decades of really *wanting* to hear this record and just always finding it unlistenable

I Against I is literally one of my favorite albums ever.
I cannot even fathom it being better.

I don't know it has a really cool energy, good tunes, but I can't stomach that metal sheen it has, the drum sound, weird choices for this band. I usually end up listening to the Quickness instead.

the weird sound is what I love

this is great news, obv

also, wtf were Ocasek and Jennifer thinking with that 1991 remix hack job?

I thought that was Rock
For Light. They did I Against I too?

sorry for confusion, RFL is the hack job, I Against I is the weirdo mix that I find endearing

Black Dots and The Youth Are Getting Restless are my go-to’s

Black Dots is fuckin amazing

I love the ROIR one and RFL (original) as well, but wow they sure arrived fully formed

all the accusations of homophobia are 100% otm and don't detract one iota from the power of this stuff for me, YMMV

Would love to hear not just remasters but remixes. Few great band have been shafted worse by unfortunate production choices.

*great bands

why it's such a struggle, certainly so much that the Huskers guys essentially gave up the fight - Meat Puppets and Dinosaur got their rights back, Sonic Youth reissued Sister via Geffen IIRC.

this isn't strictly true, i spoke with terry katzman before he died and they used the same lawyers, tried but there were specific things in the husker contracts that were worse than the meat puppets and dino contracts, didn't get into the specifics

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also i think ginn knows mould is really well off and really wanted to shake him down

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Oh, that makes a lot of sense, thanks UMS.

got a discogs notice that the Rock for Light reissue is up for pre-order now. grabbed since my non-messed copy has gone missing.