― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Um, I know it's been a few years, but Daniel are you done with the mundane crap yet? I find your's and Mickey Black Eyes' comments about the Brasil and Japan parellels really interesting, and I think France could also be added to these comparisons.
(I think i may have just made some connections about one of the reasons I like foreign or really cheesy styles so much)
I second Sister Disco's sideline.
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:01 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Monday, 6 October 2003 03:19 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, yeah I just recently purchased Bicho and Joia, and I quite frankly cannot believe how great they are!!!!!
Joia in particular is a fascinating record; a cycle of miniatures which are all really affecting and impeccably arranged. I've always been a fan of Caetano but it may very well be my discovery of this record which catapulted him into genius status. He has an amazing ear for pure sound - knows the way fundamentally simple instrumentation can create perfectly rich sound worlds. He knows what he's doing.
Bicho is totally cool! It's Caetano going funk and it's extremely great! I saw him live last year and He performed "Gente" from Bicho! It was great; he fuckin' rules!
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:25 (twenty years ago) link
"Gente" is a GREAT song
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 6 October 2003 03:28 (twenty years ago) link
Caetano Veloso - Livro, Domingo, Cores Nomes, Joia, Eu Nao Peco Desculpa( I've already got a few self-titled ones and cinema trans)
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 6 October 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
I stand by my callthat livro is the ninth bestalbum ever made
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 6 October 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link
I've also acquired Livro and Joia. The revival of this thread has been great as I have omitted to seek out Cores e Nomes, but shall rectify that asap. I agree with your call, A Nairn, about French music being added to the list. The chanson was the first sentimental music I ever admitted to liking and it works by dint of its being French.
It's funny to re-read Mickey's post on futurism above, after all this time. I wonder if his Blue Eyes had been blinded by Brasilia (Niemeyer and his sexy pavilion?). I'm not sure if the Japanese model quite applies to Brazil, but there is such freshness infused in the Brazilian aesthetic. Certainly not sure if the Thievery Corp is necessarily the answer to all our prayers.
― Daniel (dancity), Monday, 6 October 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link
― leigh (leigh), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison, Friday, 11 June 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link
It hasn't been dispatcehd yet though - is this a good place to start?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Erickson, Saturday, 12 June 2004 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway - HELP ME I CAN"T STOP LISTENING TO CAETANO VELOSO
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Saturday, 26 June 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 26 June 2004 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Sunday, 27 June 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― no opinion, Sunday, 27 June 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Sunday, 27 June 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I MUST KNOW IF ANYONE BOUGHT THE BOXSET ???
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 27 June 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― no opinion, Sunday, 27 June 2004 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 30 June 2006 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/v/veloso_caet_caetanove_101b.jpg
― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 30 June 2006 03:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 30 June 2006 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 30 June 2006 03:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― el juan (el juan), Friday, 30 June 2006 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 19 October 2006 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link
"Canto do Povo de um Lugar" from Jóia just keeps being the best piece of music I've ever heard. The cover of "Help" on the same album and "Tudo tudo tudo" are also fairly spectacular. Probably the only musician I venerate (I usually find that practice fucking ridiculous).
― jim, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh the last two tracks from Jóia are also brilliant. I really can't talk about Caetano enough.
― jim, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link
"Ce" reminds me in spirit of Gainsbourg's "Melody Nelson" record. Same grotty guitars (albeit much better produced)and similar vocal stylings.
― kwhitehead, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I love how Caetano's vocal gets thinner. There is real pathos in some of Ce, like minhas lágrimas, hearing the same man you've heard as a carefree youth all these years in his classic records starting to be somewhat damaged and aged.
― jim, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Search for the three minutes of cutesy happiness that is Um Canto de Afoxé!
― blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link
About Todo Caetano — I don't have the box set itself, but I've purchased some individual discs from it on Ebay. The mini-LP style repackaging is nice; some of the discs are remixed/remastered in a way that is usually quite sumptuous but tends to remove the bite from the drums (maybe a compression issue?), especially on the first (1967) and second (1969) eponymous albums. The '67 album also has a couple of tracks out of order.
I would search Muitos Carnivas (jolly & festive), Muito (quiet and pacifying) and of course the great Tropicalia: Panis et Circensis. The compilation I have is Antologia 67/03, which has a lot of great music and non-chronilogical sequencing that doesn't make a whole lot of sense; not a bad sampler, anyway.
― eatandoph, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow I didn't even know of the existence of Ce.
― Daniel Giraffe, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Man, I really kinda hate Ce now. But Caetano continues being the most important solo artist in my life. Listening to Cavaleiro a lot recently. Pop legend, knows so much (and shows it) about Brazilian music. Also is so conscious as he plays with the male/female role with Brazilian numbers.
― what U cry 4 (jim), Monday, 29 December 2008 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link
His singing here blows me away:
― Jazzbo, Monday, 29 December 2008 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 29 December 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
New Caetano album basically like a more mellow cê, assume it's the same band, very similar sound.
Only a few tracks on it I really like, A Base De Guantanamo probably the highlight for me, really repetitive mantra like chorus.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh and it's called Zii e zie: transambas.
Bit more Brazilian sounding, less based on rock rhythms, but the same production and reliance on electric guitar + electric bass & drum kit.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
that sounds amazing!
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
A friend played Bicho, Veloso's stab at a late seventies Boz Scaggs record, over and over after a few glasses of wine. Marvelous.
― I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 November 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah owned 'Bicho' for about 10 years or more, never felt "Boz Scaggs" but whatevs
awesome record
― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 7 November 2009 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Have missed him live a number of times in W. DC, but am planning on seeing him Saturday night. "zii e zie" which does use the same musicians as Ce is only being released in the US now.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 April 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I really enjoyed the show. He and his young 3-piece band performed for 1 hour and 45 minutes. They did a mixture of old and new songs. The stage was set up with a big hangglider sitting behind the drummer backlit with soft yellow light. Behind that was a large screen--on some songs they showed black and white footage of the Brazilian coast and it was as if you were hangliding. Another song featured a Havana Cuba streetscape with all the old cars that are still there. For many songs the screen wasn't used. Veloso switched between using one of those circular hollow electric guitars and an acoustic one, or without a guitar. He danced and jumped about and did various theatrical gestures with his hand. He did his 1971 song about his sister Maria Bethania and a bossa/samba-style acoustic cover of Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" that ended with a verse about all the lonely people from "Eleanor Rigby." For many songs the band rocked, especially the drummer, like a postpunk meets Fugazi ensemble, except Veloso was singing samba-rock melodies overtop. They had strobe lights flashing on some of the songs. There were lots of 40 something and up Brazilians in the crowd who got more lively for the older material--especially the encores.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 April 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I really wanted to go to this.
― you can beat my box any time (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 11 April 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
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Brazilian guitar legend Caetano Veloso will comes to the US for six shows this April. The first will be at NYC's Terminal 5 on Thurday, April 8th. Tickets are on AmEx presale now. General sale starts Friday, February 19th at noon.
Caetano's 41st album, Zii e Zie, which came out internationally last year, and will get a US release on March 23rd through Nonesuch (the label that's putting out huge Caetano fan & collaborator David Byrne's new record with Fatboy Slim, Here Lies Love). The album already won the 2009 Latin Grammy for Best Singer-Songwriter Album. Tracks from Zii e Zie are streaming here. All tour dates, videos, and album info and art are below...
"Zii e Zie" tracklist1 Perdeu (Lost)2 Sem Cais (No Dock)3 Por Quem? (For Whom?)4 Lobão Tem Razão (Lobão Is Right)s5 A Cor Amarela (The Color Yellow)6 A Base de Guantánamo (Guantánamo Base) 7 Falso Leblon (False Leblon)8 Incompatibilidade de Gênios (Incompatibility of Temperaments)9 Tarado ni Você (Horny for You)10 Menina da Ria (Girl from Ria)11 Ingenuidade (Innocence)
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Caetano Veloso - Você é linda
Caetano Veloso - Sonhos
Caetano Veloso Billie Jean
Caetano Veloso - 2010 Tour DatesMar 05 Buenos Aires - Argentina - Gran RexMar 06 Buenos Aires - Argentina - Gran RexMar 08 Assunção - Paraguai Mar 10 Montevidéu - Uruguai - Estádio Centenário Mar 13 Santigo - Chile - Teatro CaupolicánMar 15 Lima - Peru - Teatro San AugustínMar 19 Cidade do México - México - Auditório Nacional Mar 22 Guadalajara - México - Teatro DianaApr 08 New York, NY - Terminal 5Apr 10 Washington DC - Lisner AuditorimApr 12 Boston - Orpheum Theatre Apr 15 Los Angeles - The Greek TheatreApr 17 San Francisco - Masonic Apr 20 Miami - Fillmore at Jackie Gleason Theatre
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yeah
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 18:32 (nine months ago) link
does anybody know what the lyrics are to "Gilberto Misterioso"?
when i sing it to myself i normally go
gil hing gil hee gil ha jeenyo
― budo jeru, Thursday, 20 July 2023 01:40 (nine months ago) link
lol I have but am surprised you have as well! I guess Quarteto 1111 might come across the radars of psych diggers? Certainly frontman José Cid never stops mentioning his prog album showing up on some Japanese best of list
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, July 18, 2023 3:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
i can't really remember how i came across them but yeah it was probably on one of many "worldwide psych" benders. "os monstros sagrados" is a great track!
― budo jeru, Thursday, 20 July 2023 01:42 (nine months ago) link
Sol ré /// It's a play on musical notes (G is Sol, and Sol is also Sun in pt-br) and Ré (D and also backwards)Sol-ol /// Just aliteration on Sun again here
Gil engendra /// You prob know this is Gilberto Gil, but the rest is just a ref to a poem from Sousandrade, a wacky/weird modern poet – engendra means engender, to produce, spawn something. So, Gil produces...Em Gil rouxinol /// ... In(inside?) Gil nightingaleGil engendraEm Gil rouxinol
Great song. Reminds me of Red Crayola in a way, but Caetano goes all the way on these micro/minimal songs with full wordplay on other poetry/folksongs. Transa has something kinda similar to this as well.
― fpsa, Thursday, 20 July 2023 02:43 (nine months ago) link
you can also go deep here! http://lendocancao.blogspot.com/2019/09/gil-engendra-em-gil-rouxinol-gilberto.html
― fpsa, Thursday, 20 July 2023 02:46 (nine months ago) link
My cats went batshit for that song. Not a real rouxinol, guys!
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 July 2023 08:30 (nine months ago) link
right, okay, it's coming back to me (?)
i'm guessing gilberto gil must've been nicknamed "rouxinol" at some point
https://i.discogs.com/r9cCGopnifM_TeraxlczLibNIlbXaVi7z3q5vLk_x7U/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:586/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTU2NDc1/OTgtMTM5ODg4NDU0/MS02NTg3LmpwZWc.jpeg
― budo jeru, Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:20 (nine months ago) link
ok blogspot post leads to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt1yv-c8a54
― budo jeru, Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:28 (nine months ago) link
<3
― fpsa, Friday, 21 July 2023 00:59 (eight months ago) link
Seeing video clips of his current US tour and wishing I had been back in town to have seen him last night in dc area gig at Strathmore. They’re now saying this is his last US tour. Oh well, at least I have seen him a few times before .
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 14:18 (one week ago) link
When I saw that he was touring, I was bummed that he wasn't coming to Chicago. Or maybe he is and I somehow missed it?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 14:31 (one week ago) link
the show is great, saw him at BAM. HOWEVER!!! Historical revisionism now makes brazillians sing along to "You don't know me" but when he plays fucking Cajuina almost no one does!!! I mean, I love Transa – but people, for the love of god, there are other Caetano records lol.
― fpsa, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 14:53 (one week ago) link
i like both of those songs but it's much easier for me to sing the songs that are in a language i know how to speak ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 16:51 (one week ago) link
although i will cop to yogurting quite a bit to caetano's music, lol
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 16:52 (one week ago) link
I don’t think you missed a Chicago gig Josh, looks like it was just an east coast and west coast Veloso tour
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 17:32 (one week ago) link
budo jeru, I have no qualms with english-speaking fans - but BAM was packed with Brazilians tho!!! And my larger point is – Transa became in the last 25 years something of a OK Computer for regular listeners, and becomes really boring to see people hyping it to the extreme while completely disregarding the rest of a huge catalog. And Cajuína is a hit! From a even bigger successful record, Cinema Transcendental (a hit about suicide and the loss of a son, but still, such a pretty song)
― fpsa, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 20:55 (one week ago) link
(the listeners who disregard everything but Transa in the post above are again, BRA listeners. most US/Europe/Japan fans love Caetano all around mostly)
― fpsa, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 20:56 (one week ago) link
it's a pet peeve of mine, sorry. it happens with other artists as well – people who only love Tábua de Esmeralda but not all Jorge Ben, or people who love Racional Vol1 but don't listen to Tim Maia. It's similar to someone saying they love Dub but can't listen to Reggae - gtfo!!!
― fpsa, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:03 (one week ago) link
right. i mean, i have basically never heard anyone talk about Transa so i don't even know what it would be like to have your experience. i have heard Cinema Transcendental many times and, while i like it, respectfully i don't think it comes close to Transa. but that's a bit like saying this or that painting doesn't come close to the Sistine Chapel or something (sorry if i'm inadvertently adding to the hype)
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:20 (one week ago) link
haha no worries. I love Transa, it's one of a kind, but it's just 1 part of Caetano
Cinema Transcendental punches above the weight for me in several songs – Cajuina, the title track, Lua de São Jorge. I heard this songs in the radio, it's not that fair, I do love them a lot. It's a poppier/breezier side to Caetano for sure. I associate it with a general type of light MPB tracks for the early 80s that, in a larger sense, became what people associate with MPB as a 'genre' for a long time
― fpsa, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 22:41 (one week ago) link
btw, he was touring recently a show playing Transa in full again – so there's some hope he does that show here as well (but with a diff band – you almost need a hardcore/grind drummer for a track like Neolithic Man! true freak folk <3)
― fpsa, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 22:44 (one week ago) link