Beth Gibbons & Rustin' Man - Out Of Season

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If I'd got my arse in gear to nominate for the 00s poll, "mysteries" would have been my nomination. I don't think another song has affected me in quite the same way in recent years.

The rest of it, beyond "tom the model", I don't remember. I've played the first song a lot, and the rest very infrequently. Also, most of it feels like an Autumn album, so its erm...out of season.. at the moment.

I was thinking about this album earlier, actually. About time it had another play.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I still feel the love for this album, most definitely.

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
I'm redisovering this lately. Didn't do much the first time around, but it now sounds pretty great although so relentlessly bitter that i can only sip it in small doses.

Baaderonixx born in Xyxax (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

this is a really pretty record.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish they'd do a follow up.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been thinking about this album today (not playing it, just thinking about it) so its interesting to see this thread re-emerge.

Is it the drizzle and the damp, do you think?

Fantastic album. I think "mysteries" is still my favourite song of the 00s so far.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 9 January 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I love this album. One of the best of the 'new folk' thing, although it is rarely mentioned in that context.
I tend to play it with Mark Hollis' solo album. It has the same kind of feel: it puts flesh on the bare bones he created.

bham, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 10:22 (eighteen years ago) link

The album has been sitting in my desk for two years. It's there now. I played it 5-6 times two years ago when I got it, and not since. No track stands out in my memory at all, and I tend to like atmospheric trip-hoppy stuff a lot. (I got Juana Molina's Segundo at the same time, and have played it 100s of times, along with her later Tres. Same ballpark, much better game.)

Vornado, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Could anybody please YSI that 'Candy Says' cover/bonus track for a poor European? Thanks.

Ben (crispyben), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I disagree! Juana Molina is in a much different ballpark than "Out of Season" (I like both very much). Molina is woozy/dreamy/droney, whle Gibbons has the cabaret/pop element, and much stronger pipes, which determines a lot of what she does musically. Most of that album has very little to do with trip-hop.

When I heard Portishead were working on a new album, my first thought was that I'd much rather hear a new Gibbons solo album.

Then "Candy Says" cover sucks, though.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

so today i dug this out along with the Mark Hollis album.
did the all important ILM search only to find that I am not alone in putting these 2 albums together.
i suspect that out of season is going to get a lot of love during this week of late shifts.

mark e, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I just bought this over the weekend! It sounded great last night.

f. hazel, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

this is where i admit that i only just bought the old portishead albums last week.

mark e, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Amazing how people can buy albums which aren't out for another four weeks.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Amazing how people lack basic reading comprehension.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:44 (sixteen years ago) link

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Stevie T, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

To be honest that was a gaffe and a haffe.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 10:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Dingbod Gaffney's Gaffes.

Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The James Yorkston/Rustin Man album of a year or two ago is pretty good too. Again, a similar Talk Talk-ish feel.

bham, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I love this record but, for me, it's not a Spring or Summer record. It's a bit out of season for this. This is a classic late Autumn record. A chill in the air, a sweater, some crunchy leaves, etc.

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

exactly, I first heard this in November, in London, and nothing could be more perfect

akm, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I love this record. Anybody knows where to find a vinyl copy of it? Or has a spare copy I could get you rid of?

Moka, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

what a great album.
genuine shiver-up-the-spine moments throughout.

mark e, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

New solo album forthcoming:

http://pitchfork.com/news/51147-portisheads-beth-gibbons-to-release-new-solo-album-on-domino/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

let's hope for harris/webb involvement!

folsom country prism (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

psyyyyched

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

Great news! Probably means the Portishead album is still another five years away but hey, she hasn't an album that's less than great so hopefully this one will be too.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

Apparently Billy Gibbons is taking her place in Rustin Man.

henry s, Thursday, 13 June 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

Could be challops but 'Out of Season' has more replay value for me than any Portishead album.

Moka, Thursday, 13 June 2013 05:49 (ten years ago) link

i agree, and i'm v much looking forward to the new one

lex pretend, Thursday, 13 June 2013 07:02 (ten years ago) link

i'm with moka re 'out of season'

mark e, Thursday, 13 June 2013 07:16 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Found this on a vinyl bin for two dollars and bought it. Mint condition. Damn philistines it was barely played. Their loss, my win. This is a perfect album for this season (some pun could be done there but I'm too lazy to work it out).

It's been more than a decade. What say you ILM? Also what happened to that followup that was mentioned a couple of years ago?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 October 2015 08:53 (eight years ago) link

this is probably one of my favourite albums ever

lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 08:56 (eight years ago) link

I love Portishead but I said it two years ago; this one is the Beth Gibbons related record I keep coming back to. It received mixed reviews and it might have had low sales I suppose but I really want a followup. The best song on P3 is 'the rip' by far and it's indebted to this record... at least it sounds closer to this sound than the first two Portishead albums. I hope it's not the closest thing we ever get to out of season pt2.

I love you Beth Gibbons but you are incredibly effete. 4 albums in 20+ years!? If I had that voice I wouldn't stop collaborating everywhere.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 October 2015 09:08 (eight years ago) link

No way. Honestly I think the single most undervalued commodity in modern pop music is MYSTIQUE and Beth has it in spades. I don't want her diluting that by turning up on Father John Misty albums or whatever.

Matt DC, Friday, 30 October 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link

Did this come at some point with a live bonus disc pretty much playing the whole album or was that a boot? I want that.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Friday, 30 October 2015 13:02 (eight years ago) link

No way. Honestly I think the single most undervalued commodity in modern pop music is MYSTIQUE and Beth has it in spades. I don't want her diluting that by turning up on Father John Misty albums or whatever.

^^^^cosign x a million

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 30 October 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link

Hah why did you have to do such a nefarious pairing? I meant collabs like out of season or that black sabbath cover she did. They work because they are leftfield collabs with out of the spotlight artists, I'm not saying she collabs with father john misty, or gorillaz, or big boi. She could keep her mystique by releasing every now and then music with relatively unknown bands or artists with an inclination towards the avant garde.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 October 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

Specially with that voice of hers. At this rate of release she only has two more albums before she is too old to tune the same way she does.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 October 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

yeah I love this album. bought it when it came out when I was in London for a few weeks and listened to it nonstop.

akm, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

thus, it is in the quintessential english fall album for me

akm, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

classic all the way

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

this is probably one of my favourite albums ever

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Tell The BTLs to Fuck Off (wins), Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

I never expected a member of portishead and a member of talk talk to be snappy with a follow-up tho tbh

Tell The BTLs to Fuck Off (wins), Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

What are the other Talk Talk guys up to, Hollis aside?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

I can't find any signs of activity from any of them. Is Webb definitely involved with new gibbons album?

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

Not new but new to me (and not mentioned here):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-mc7D6hs5U

djh, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link

relistened to this tonight. i still remembered most songs as if they had been engraved in my brain though i hadn't listened to them for maybe ten years. i was a little disappointed, in my memory the music was stronger, the tunes were less obvious. sometimes it would be better not to revisit old albums, as it is almost impossible to relive the original enthusiasm.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

The only song I remember from the list of songs is "Tom the Model," which is the only one with a strong melody, iirc. I did see Gibbons and Webb and band live, but remember nil.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Not new but new to me (and not mentioned here):

― djh, Saturday, October 31, 2015 10:16 PM (Yesterday)

Hah why did you have to do such a nefarious pairing? I meant collabs like out of season or that black sabbath cover she did.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, October 30, 2015 5:51 PM (2 days ago)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 November 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

I'm actually laughing like fuck at that post and your response.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 12 January 2020 01:03 (four years ago) link

Yeah, classic excelsior

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 12 January 2020 09:04 (four years ago) link

I love his voice. "Drift Code" is easily the best album of the year for me.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 12 January 2020 09:25 (four years ago) link

I don't love his voice, but there's definitely some interesting tension between the big pop moments on this record--like, say, the chorus of Our Tomorrows, or the climax of The World's in Town--and the vehicle chosen to deliver those payoff moments, which plays a large part of what makes the album memorable for me

a thousand keening bullshit-detectors (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 January 2020 10:13 (four years ago) link

This hasn't really clicked for me until today. The Wyatt thing is clear but, if anything, it reminds me of a muted Super Furries or even Gorky's.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Sunday, 12 January 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

It took a while to make the first album, the second one seems to have come about a lot quicker: Clockdust, to be released in March!

willem, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link

Das Triadische Ballett on the cover! A very encouraging sign even if this is Bethless.

nashwan, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

Great news! Live dates too

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Listening to the new album now, feels more restrained but more confident than Drift Codes. Voice perhaps a bit stronger.

fetter, Friday, 20 March 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Clockdust has proved to be a lockdown staple for me, I prefer it to Drfit Code. Also being listening a lot to the first Orang album which has recently appeared on Spotify (or maybe I just couldn't find it before - Orang is not the most searchable name). Beth Gibbons appears on it, pre-Portishead (I think).

fetter, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

completely missed that coming out, so looking forward to giving it a listen.

akm, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

sheesh, i completely missed it too.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

finally getting to this. even on first impression, i have to agree with fetter: it feels more immediately unified and reassured than drift code — and i thought that album was fantastic. however, clockdust definitely seems like it's of a part with drift code; like he's been making these orchestral, vaguely folky recordings in private for the past two decades or so and what's on these albums is just what he's chosen to let the rest of the world hear. and who knows how many more of these easily digestible, endlessly rewarding fourty minute albums he seems to just have laying around, waiting to be assembled.

it's very comfortable music that is simultaneously mystifying in the most charming way.

thanks for the revive, fetter. probably would have passed me by otherwise.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 16 August 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

also "night in evening city" is absolutely perfect.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 16 August 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

after a few listens, i simultaneously love and hate how this ends with the psychedelic buzzing chorus of "man with a remedy." i want there to be something else after the song just falls apart. . . like a short reprise of "rubicon song" or something else that closes the deal more resoundingly. the way it ends as is very much feels like a cliffhanger.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 16 August 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

also "night in evening city" is absolutely perfect.

oh yeah, definitely. I've read he was in a "reggae band" before Talk Talk - you can almost hear it here.

fetter, Monday, 17 August 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

I've never heard an artist sound more like another artist (Robert Wyatt, voice obviously, but even melodic approach and overall aesthetic) and yet be SO FANTASTIC. I mean--I think even Mr. Wyatt would have to tip his hat.

I just found out he already has a second album out, so that's the listening docket for the evening. Very excited.

Soundslike, Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

agreed. you'll love clockdust. i like it even more than the first one.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 29 August 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

New album on the way, and a lovely first track has already appeared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldrx0eSqV-E

fetter, Friday, 9 February 2024 12:41 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

reminds me of sandy denny.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Monday, 25 March 2024 00:08 (three weeks ago) link

Good song.

sawdust lagoon, Monday, 25 March 2024 10:14 (three weeks ago) link


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