TS Out Of The Past vs. Night Of The Hunter

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Heh - it was just the least movie-like movie I could come up with on a moment's notice. I suppose there might be some 'film' that's an unvarying shot of a still photo with no soundtrack that would be even less movie-ish, but yeah, it's still light flashing at 24 fps so it's not quite the same as actually looking at the still photo, etc. I was just (and here's the nitpicky part) pointing out that it's possible to make a movie that's entirely dependent on visuals, yet is about as 'unmovielike' as it can be, under our usual understanding of what movies are like.

Oilyrags, Saturday, 17 November 2007 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Even tho OOTP has Jane Greer in it, I would have to go for NOTH. Still, Jane Greer though...

Tom D., Saturday, 17 November 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Dadaismus, are you Howard Hughes?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 17 November 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Night Of The Hunter is great and all, but it does feel like a "first movie" to me, like Laughton tried to cram a bit too much stuff into one film. Add to that the fact that of course he never directed another movie and it ends up being more of a frustrating experience than anything else, so full of "what if?". Out Of The Past, meanwhile, is just perfect as it is, immaculately paced, everyone at the top of their game. Alfred is right when he calls it "the best kind of studio film", but I guess to me those are the best kinds of movies, period.

Anthony, I don't have much to add to the thread posted as far as Mitchum recs go, but definitley read Baby, I Don't Care by Lee Server - you don't even have to be that much into Mitchum, dude could make anything seem fascinating! But of course Bob is anyway, so it's all good.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 18 November 2007 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

The great thing about that bio is that he makes the real life anecdotes sound like scenes from Mitchum movies. Such as the story of Mitchum and his brother riding the rails cross-country and the brother being caught by a railroad bull. (Mitchum himself had been caught earlier and was put on a chain gang from which he escaped!) When the brother finally arrived at the sister's house in California, he walked dirty and disheveled into the bathroom, where Bob, lounging in a bubble bath, smoking a cigar and reading Hollywood Confidential and some other screen magazines, greeted him with the words "What kept you?"

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 19 November 2007 04:12 (sixteen years ago) link

The un(der)credited screenwriter on NOTH Frank Fenton seems to be a topic for further research.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 19 November 2007 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link

No, I meant OOTP

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 19 November 2007 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Out of the Past is maybe my fave American movie of that immediate postwar period. Lillian Gish has always annoyed me in TNotH.

jeez, croupier pointing his "all movies are movie-like" hard-on everywhere.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 November 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

The child actors in Hunter aren't particularly outstanding, are they?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 November 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Never thought so.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 19 November 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

The child actors in Hunter aren't particularly outstanding, are they?

Ha ha! My dad had a bit part in this flick.

Michael White, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 09:00 (sixteen years ago) link

They should have bumped him up to the main role.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link

The child actors in Hunter aren't particularly outstanding, are they?

I prefer their amateurism (especially in the film's hyper-fussy context) to creepy, polished Dakota Fanning school of kid performances. Of course, I prefer root canal to that also.

Eric H., Tuesday, 20 November 2007 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, if the kids were Shirley Temple types, the Preacher's plot would have been uncovered within five minutes.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Unless there is a typo, they got Stanley Cortez to DP when they did a TV remake in 1991.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Rewatched OOTP for the first time in awhile. Forgot all about Jose Rodriguez.

Is the black-coated enforcer, Paul Valentine, real good in anything else? This was his debut.

Besides Kirk Douglas, Rhonda Fleming and Dickie Moore are still living.

Mitchum and Jane Greer did a parody on SNL in '87, Out of Gas! You can see it if you have HuluPlus.

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 6 July 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

Jose Rodriguez = rowr

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 July 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link

Weird, I was just looking at the thread ten minute ago while searching through the Noir threads and was afraid I had accidentally revived it.

Speaking of Rhonda Fleming, I went back to the 8:00 at MoMa to see Tennessee's Partner and intending to see Slightly Scarlet today or tomorrow.

Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 July 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link

might get to SS tonight

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 6 July 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link

Want to see the other two today, Silver Lode and Sands of Iwo Jima, so may go to SS tomorrow.

Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 July 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

Is there a way to win?
Well, there's a way to lose more slowly.

When I Get To The Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 April 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link

Dadaismus, are you Howard Hughes?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 17 November 2007 14:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

wrt Jane Greer, we're all Howard hughes.

Love both films but its OOTH. Not necessarily just bcz of Greer, more the script..

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 April 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link

ha

When I Get To The Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 April 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

i.e. Hillary Swank

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 September 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

tsk tsk

he really looked like himself from age 4 to 80

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 September 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Rewatched OOTP for the first time in awhile. Forgot all about Jose Rodriguez.

Is the black-coated enforcer, Paul Valentine, real good in anything else? This was his debut.

Besides Kirk Douglas, Rhonda Fleming and Dickie Moore are still living.

Mitchum and Jane Greer did a parody on SNL in '87, /Out of Gas/! You can see it if you have HuluPlus.


RIP, Dickie Moore. Just looked for the SNL parody, did not find. Looks like various seasons are missing, maybe?

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 September 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

I get the idea Jose Rodriguez is flirting with Mitchum and Douglas and waiting to see who takes the bait

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 September 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

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