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LeCoq is totally OTM.

I've been skiing for 19 yrs, and the only place I've seen the "Jonny Tsunami" stereotype about skiing break down was at my local hill, in rural Minnesota, where most of the locals were farm kids.

That being said: I fucking love it, and consider the years I spent bumming in CO among the best in my life. It's one of the reasons I'm psyched about moving back West -- even if it means that I have to hang out with dudes that listen to Widespread and Slipknot, and have pot leaf stickers on the back of their Subaru.

Also: alpine racing is the shit, fuck the haters.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

won't ski
-- RJG (RJ...) (webmail), Today 6:34 AM. (RJG) (later)

shocker

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i cant believe this hate for downhill skiing. its the best feeling in the world.

my advice would be to wait for snow on a mountain. the best way to learn to ski is to take a half day lesson then go to the top of a mountain and say to yourself 'well ive got to get to the bottom now'. you'll improve 1000% on that first run. i cant see much happening at an indoor slope for a beginner. plus, on a mountain mr rumpie can go off and play black diamonds while you learn on the friendly green slopes.

also, avoid snowplowing. it will fuck up your style for years.

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

dry slope skiing is v slow and more difficult because of it, nuless you are a beginner. its ok to learn on but i would have some lessons if youve never done it before. id een going to (hemel) dry ski slope for about 5 years before i ever went on snow, and then never went back.

went to sheffield "ski village" (hint: its a couple of slopes) the other day and it was impossbile to turn on the toothbrush stuff. but the view from the topwas so stunning that i would have paid 13 pound to do just that.

skiing is still expensive but i think its becoming more egalitarian. the kit and the lift passes, accommodation etc make it pricey from what i know, despite flight costs coming down - the only place non charter planes fly to from dopncaster airport is geneva! seems like everyone is goign skiing this year.

its classic to go just to drink gluhwein (sp?) in a shack up the mountain when yr cold and wet. or mozzarella panini in italy. doing anything halfway up a mountina, drinking beer etc, in that combination of baking/sweating, and being freezing, is classic

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd probably get to the bottom on my arse!

The green slopes do seem very very tame, hardly any incline at all. And snowplowing does look awfully ungainly.

I used to ice-skate (badly), I could stay on my feet and build up great speed but I could only stop with the aid of the barrier or by coming to a long, slow halt. That flash sideways stopping thing totally eluded me....

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

shocker yourself

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I still can't get my head around how difficult skiing could be! Stopping and turning, yeah, but other than that, isn't it just essentially standing there? And yes, Mr Rumpie goes bonkers when I suggest this.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, about as much as bicycling is "just sitting there".

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been skiing since I was 10 years old and love it quite a bit, but the best time to go is on a Monday/Tuesday in the spring when everything is half-price and all of the clods have gone home.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Skiing = just staying on your feet until you get to the bottom then stopping without the aid of your face/arse/innocent bystander/fence/wall/vehicle.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I can do that.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

describe skydiving, pls

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm basically too late to thread but what the hell: Gib is right, downhill skiing is for the posh UNLESS you live in the vicinity of ski country, in which case EVERYone skis much like everyone breathes, and it can be on the oldest and crappiest equipment, doesn't matter. My first pair of skis were $50 from a family friend, Rossignols so old they could almost have hung on a cabin wall, and I had to clean the fuck out of the bindings because someone thought they would be fun on sand dunes.

I haven't been skiing in too long.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Skydiving = getting over exiting a flying plane.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I still can't get my head around how difficult skiing could be! Stopping and turning, yeah, but other than that, isn't it just essentially standing there?

My jerk friends did this while I was job interviewing in Chicago, missing the fun: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31153


gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

the only place non charter planes fly to from dopncaster airport is geneva!

I'm sure that's not true - for one thing, I have friends who have flown Doncaster-Paris on non-charter flights.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Gib, did you read this? You might like.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/LimitedLiabilityGirl/Snowstruck.gif

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't! Is it good?

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

beer never tastes better than after skiing

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Very true.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i would love to try skiing.

ai lien (kold_krush), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Good? I don't remember. The writing is probably barely competent, but then that's not really the point. V interesting, sobering, makes you realize that snow safety isn't something just experts do, everyone who's going to be out in it should know how to look at conditions, at load, etc, and keep emotions out of it whether that's fatigue or adrenaline or what have you. Good stories, too.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

snow safety isn't something just experts do

Very true. At least 3-4 ppl died in and around Aspen last winter alone, if I recall correctly.

Avalanches are terrifying. Especially freaky when you look at something you skied the other day and there's a 5 foot crown on it.

(jargon watch! five foot crown = the avalanche sloughed a slab that was five feet deep.)

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Europe is ridiculously cheap. I skiied in Austria for a total of $12 Australian dollars ($9 US?) which included equipment hire, a parka and an all day pass. The Austrians, who were probably skiing in the freakin' womb, spent a good amount of time mocking my form though.

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

i think we should hang out!

ai lien (kold_krush), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man I want to ski in Europe. Some buddies of mine spent a season out there: season pass in Chamonix is something like $300. Compare to Jackson Hole or Aspen: $1800+. For mountains a billion times larger (bad snow, though).

Plus: Europe. Which is nice.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i completely agree

x-post

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought aspen was only $895. Maybe thats a weekday pass or something

x-post

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

"only"

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

skiing = classic
snowboarding = dud

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope. That'll get you a 2 day a week pass, IF you buy it before Sept.

Full pass = $1800. Or work for the Company.

xpost

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

lol i knew as i typed that it was wrong. its the only place someone flies to from doncaster. maybe easyjet or something. you cant fly to barcelona from doncaster yet, which invalidates all other destinations ;)

yikes $900 for a ski pass. ok skiing in europe is dead cheap then., i revise that.

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

skiing = classic
snowboarding = dud

Why can't we all just agree to live in peace and harmony and to despise bladers for the scum that they are.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, be nice. My siblings all snowboard, I'm the only skiing holdout in the family.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Bladers I said, bladers! I'm a boarder meself.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

snowboarding looks like so much fun but im told its ridiculously hard to learn. my skiing still needs a lot of work so im hesitant to start from the beginning with something new at this point. also, i dated a sponsered snowboarder who was pretty boring and not as cute as a snowboader should be so that turned me off the whole sport for a while.

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

SNOWLERBLADES

http://www.doglotion.com/images/gaper03/blades.JPG

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Snowboarding is cake to learn. The first three days are all concussions and sore ass, but after that you're as good as about 75% of the other gapers out there.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Good heavens. Please, not the teal, I'll do anything you say if you just MAKE THE TEAL STOP.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never skiied or snowboarded and don't have much interest in either, really. Winter is for being inside.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

on that same traumatizing ski trip mentioned above, my friend's boyfriend strapped me on to his snowboard. i fell over a few times, he laughed, and that was the end of my boarding career. i think i'm not cut out for winter sports.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Jay, I have a hunch that it's kind of like beating your head against the wall because it feels so good when you stop: I like to feel I've earned my fuzzy socks and fireside cocoa.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

A ringing endorsement.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

skiers/snowboarders: more attractive than than the general populace? defend/refute.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Obviously.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Serious.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Snowboarders: young and gormless, nasty dreadlocks, stupid clothes, overuse of "rad" and "dude". Skiers: old, too tanned, lurid one-piece outfits. Answer: no.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

gbx, pleasant plains and i went to aspen this time last year and got an unexpectedly great deal.

we bought 3 day passes as part of a package through the hotel we were staying at. it included ski hire and a full day lesson. Thing is we had paid the full price which was adjusted by our hotel booker when we arrived in Aspen. When we went to Buttermilk to pick up our passes, they credited our debit card again, I guess not realising we'd already been discounted. so they ended up paying us $5 to ski!

i snickered all the way down the mountain.

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicely done. Lessons are unbelievably expensive up there, too.


...this time last year...decent conditions, I think?

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

conditions? it was snowing too hard to land the night we arrivedin aspen but the rest of the 4 days was all blue skies and sunshine. the snow was still powdery on our third day (unlike australian mountains where its packed hard on most runs in only a few hours)which was nice. oh and we caught the last night of the x-games - the sled version motocross and snowboard/ski halfpipe. fun!

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

RIP Bill Johnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkdB42lN1AE

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

norwegian telemark ski maker, ca 1975 making a pair of skis from start to finish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPVqUbcjDY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

Ok im 7 mins in and already pretty astounded. Axe. Plane. Insight. Labor.

Hunt3r, Friday, 5 October 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've got skiing on the brand

Wolf Creek is already open!!

gbx, Friday, 19 October 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

brand awareness is pretty now

Hunt3r, Saturday, 20 October 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Btui73sl2U5/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

when you straightline the final 5 bumps and go checkless to the jump laaaaaay ouuuuut

lol/not lol: #whenintroubletuckfordouble

i pinged my utah buddy to ask wtf this guy was thinking and he responded totally flipping out- he was "20 feet away" and "it was F*ing scary I could not believe he didn't blow a knee he was damn lucky we had about 8ft of fresh snow and the base is super soft/ i'll say one thing the crowd went fullll send for him/ This was a +10,000 GNAR points -- it was the entire crowd was WTF...they saw him straightening that/ you should come out and watch this some year."

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link

I wish my knees were better at handling the bumps. Strength work needed before July.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 23:45 (five years ago) link

my alpines were in the shop, so i skied my 2001 Tuas (198/70/188 and soft) with rainey superloops last week, first time on tele in 4 years.

my quads, they were fucking crying. i was so so terrible. i fell at 1p and hit my head really hard (stars) in the bumps and quit for the day, because i was afraid i'd end up in another coma.

otoh, i feel like i never got actually good in bumps until age 49, the year i switched back to alpine from tele after over 20 yrs. suddenly, i felt so multi dimensionally capable of handling whatever they brought. it was ... weirdly epiphinal.

NB i am not good good at them, i am not a ripper at all. but i'm at least ok.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 23:52 (five years ago) link

So what you’re telling me is I should fin a reason to spend all of next February in Furano, learn to Tele and then I will be good at bumps on alpine.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 00:07 (five years ago) link

this is very much a brag probably but my buds and I just booked our first ever non-dirtbag ski trip now that we actually have jobs that can support such an extravagance (and are unmarried and childless). heading to portillo in August B) and boy am I going to need all that time to get back in shape for it

gbx, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

yeah, i was gonna ask how japanese skiing is, it looks pretty awesome and deep- how wet?

i don't think tele helped my bumps, but it did emphasize weight transfer A LOT and even more skiing through the soles of your feet. those things are pretty helpful. my utah bro just got scarpa maestrales and atomic shifts at stuff, i don't think tele is even done anymore

gbx that's like, fancy, nice! Congrats.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link

(shh we're actually staying in a shared bunkroom in a building apart from the main hotel but like we can still hang out at the pool and stuff)

gbx, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 00:49 (five years ago) link

youll make that bunkroom look good then

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:41 (five years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bty3SqAFe0k/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=jb7bhslzg6cp

I wont try to make this reasonable or approvable but corbets vines are gettin out of hand

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 01:44 (five years ago) link

that owns

gbx, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:07 (five years ago) link

Two separate pals just went to Hokkaido and by all accounts it's fuckin amazing. The snow is actually blower, which doesn't make sense to me

gbx, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:09 (five years ago) link

Hokkaido is pretty amazing and this a apparently a bad snow year, there was a lot of coverage on the news. Still 3m piles of snow by the roadside and trucks coming every night to take it out of the city.

The snow at Furano was the best very light powder and it fell the whole weekend I was there. Even Teine which is less than an hour from downtown Sapporo on transit was pretty good, at least the top of the resort where the word up courses are. The bottom was trash. Rusutsu, pretty good but it didn’t snow much whilst we were there.

I had a good long chat with a guy who ran a yakutori place in Furano. There’s lots of small local hills, he’d been to one with a 500yen ($5) lift ticket that day but his real passion is later in the season, taking his splitboard into the Taisetsuzan national park.

Next year we want to try Aomori and Akita. We hired a car this year, to stay off mountain at Rusutsu and it seems like a good thing to do is link a bunch of small resorts together in a trip.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 10:15 (five years ago) link

all those possibilities make me a little envious, but tbh the food shots i've seen are just as amazing. and i'm not a foodie. glad you seem to be thriving man

king/queens of corbets is NOW LIVE: https://www.jacksonhole.com/kings-queens-corbets.html .

the celebration vid from last year's makes it look like really a dangerous event that i just sorta approve, it looked like it was done in the right spirit, in the right way. at least it did on youtube. unlike maybe the redbull rampage which comes across as really exploitative? dunno, i'd should probly know more before opining on this.

i will never forget the layout front sommy guy on last year's corbets, and i just didn't think you could get more ridiculous without a wingsuit- until that bump freestyler at Deer Valley.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvwIz_QFZ4b/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=ft8gfntrahp0

closing time, eh?

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Did the Grand Traverse skimo race last weekend. 36+ miles from Crested Butte to Aspen. What a slog. I swore I’d never do it again immediately afterward but am already feeling the itch for next year. A couple of old-timers told me that your first year is really just a fact-finding mission, laying the groundwork for future efforts, and that makes sense to me now.

tobo73, Saturday, 3 April 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

sick

gbx, Friday, 17 September 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link


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