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i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum/

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

its reached easier at http://www.criterionforum.org fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from
www.pimpadelicwonderland.com

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (fifteen years ago) link

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Slacker!

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Didn't I see Casque d'Or on the Criterion rack the other day>

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder what will be spine #300.

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Rumor has it that a Godzilla announcement will be dropping next week, presumably in re: a massive set of the Toho material that's been on Filmstruck/Criterion Channel for some time.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:32 (two months ago) link

Also lots of speculation that they'll announce, tomorrow, the 1,000th spine number which people seem convinced will be Citizen Kane.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:40 (two months ago) link

To all of you patiently waiting for our October announcement, we're sorry for the delay. We will be announcing tomorrow—stay tuned!

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) July 16, 2019

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:16 (two months ago) link

Wong Kar-wai's birthday today - boxset?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:16 (two months ago) link

OCTOBER: Matewan; When We Where Kings; and Blu upgrades of Haxan and the Von Sternberg Silents box.

NO SPINE #1000 (YET)

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:19 (one month ago) link

haha wtf

flappy bird, Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:19 (one month ago) link

When We Where Kings has Soul Power as a bonus film.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:21 (one month ago) link

Whew, I'd been right on the verge of picking up Haxan on the assumption that no upgrade was on the horizon. The rare occasion when I've avoided getting punked by Criterion announcing a release that I've literally just bought.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:25 (one month ago) link

According to a poster on the Criterion Forum, #1000 should be announced next week (probably the Godzilla box).

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:27 (one month ago) link

Announcing our October lineup, featuring a wrenching drama about a pivotal struggle in the American labor movement & an Oscar-winning chronicle of one of Muhammad Ali’s greatest fights. Plus, 2 Blu-ray upgrades! Stay tuned for something big: next week we'll announce spine #1000! pic.twitter.com/MiejT2hjF7

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) July 18, 2019

flappy bird, Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:28 (one month ago) link

Oh no, there goes Tokyo...

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:29 (one month ago) link

Curious about the silent films of von Sternberg set... I love the Sternberg/Dietrich box set. Probably going to go get Don't Look Now and My Brilliant Career at B&N after work today.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 19 July 2019 16:41 (one month ago) link

They're gorgeous. Be sure to give the Alloy Orchestra score for The Last Command a good listen.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Friday, 19 July 2019 16:56 (one month ago) link

I love the gangster in Underworld that laughs at the lead guy, "Look! He actually likes to read!"

flappy bird, Friday, 19 July 2019 16:57 (one month ago) link

Even more extraordinary: a Larry Semon performance that *doesn't* make me want to kick him in the crotch.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Friday, 19 July 2019 16:59 (one month ago) link

Old Joy confirmed in latest newsletter.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:27 (one month ago) link

any Reichardt is good but that is by far my least favorite... so dated, such a product of the Bush 43 era, both characters are so pathetic...

Godzilla boxset all but confirmed as spine #1000, listing has showed up on blu ray/dvd sites

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:32 (one month ago) link

All hail the King! Announcing #1000: a monster edition! This October, we’re bringing you a collector’s set fit for the granddaddy of all movie monsters. Our landmark edition gathers for the first time all the Godzilla films from Japan’s Showa era! https://t.co/jwYyr01mPZ 🔥 pic.twitter.com/yZjyxCfJSq

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) July 25, 2019

flappy bird, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:27 (one month ago) link

Oh no, there goes Tokyo...

― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, July 18, 2019 11:29 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:35 (one month ago) link

Blu-ray only, I see.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:36 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Legitimately all-over-the-map November:

✨Announcing our NOVEMBER 2019 titles! ✨https://t.co/FoQh6x0IZp pic.twitter.com/4kVsThFzaW

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) August 15, 2019

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:35 (one month ago) link

Bette AND Betty!

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:36 (one month ago) link

RELEASE 👏 THE 👏 TASTE 👏 OF 👏 CHERRY 👏 4K 👏 RESTORATION

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:37 (one month ago) link

FTR, NOVEMBER: All About Eve; Now, Voyager; Betty Blue; Cold War; and The Daytrippers.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:38 (one month ago) link

Nice.

I just looked at the details for Häxan and saw the Blu and DVD will have different covers.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:42 (one month ago) link

RELEASE 👏 THE 👏 TASTE 👏 OF 👏 CHERRY 👏 4K 👏 RESTORATION

― flappy bird, Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:37 PM (one hour ago)

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 August 2019 18:48 (one month ago) link

Betty Blue we got a clue on, but Cold War and The Daytrippers feel like two of the most leftfield announcements this entire year.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 August 2019 18:49 (one month ago) link

Is Daytrippers particularly well-regarded? Because I never got the sense that it was (to the extent that I even recalled its existence). So if not, then...why?

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:56 (one month ago) link

where's Transit?

Simon H., Thursday, 15 August 2019 22:52 (one month ago) link

Is Daytrippers particularly well-regarded? Because I never got the sense that it was (to the extent that I even recalled its existence). So if not, then...why?

Debut film of a major talent?

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:08 (one month ago) link

Is Daytrippers particularly well-regarded? Because I never got the sense that it was (to the extent that I even recalled its existence). So if not, then...why?

Greg Mottola's first feature--surely this MUST be laying the ground for Superbad and Paul to join the collection?

I remember it vaguely as the sort of well-made Amerindie that got lost when Tarantino-wannabes took over Hollywood. But this can't be the best example of its time and place?

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:45 (one month ago) link

Probably not

Never heard of it before today

flappy bird, Friday, 16 August 2019 01:39 (one month ago) link

all I care about is the inevitable taste of fucking cherry upgrade
(and I say inevitable bc the IFC retro has a 4K restoration)

flappy bird, Friday, 16 August 2019 01:40 (one month ago) link

The Story of Temple Drake confirmed in latest newsletter.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:35 (two weeks ago) link

mmmmm, lurid

WmC, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

is there an Eclipse schedule? there hasn't been one since the Bergman Sweden set last summer

flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:57 (two weeks ago) link

C'mon, TCM...between Temple Drake and the expanded Forbidden Hollywood, surely you could do a landmark Pre-Code retrospective? Especially if Disney will license the surviving pre-1935 Fox titles....oh, yeah.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:02 (two weeks ago) link

I think Eclipse has run its course, what with the higher standards for masters and the better tools for restoration now being utilized.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

Plus the Criterion Channel is probably a more economically viable outlet for lesser-known foreign language titles. But I continue to wish for a Geza von Bolvary or a Maurice Tourneur En Europe Eclipse box.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 19:29 (two weeks ago) link

saw Streetwise tonight, really well made and striking documentary from 1984, proto-Kids but closer in spirit and generosity to Wiseman (save for occasional voiceover, which works well). had a Janus logo so I assume there'll be a CC release soon.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:37 (one week ago) link

I think it's coming as a bundle w/the new-ish sequel, TINY: The Life of Erin Blackwell.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:16 (six days ago) link

Greg Mottola's first feature--surely this MUST be laying the ground for Superbad and Paul to join the collection?

I remember it vaguely as the sort of well-made Amerindie that got lost when Tarantino-wannabes took over Hollywood. But this can't be the best example of its time and place?

― Anne Hedonia (j.lu)

It got excellent reviews at the time and I remember Woody Allen, Scorsese, a few others in those early internet days praising Mottola.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:20 (six days ago) link

does this mean Ben Stiller's mom (Anne Meara) is in the CC before he is?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:25 (six days ago) link

no, ben is in royal tennenbaums

na (NA), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:27 (six days ago) link

DECEMBER: Old Joy; Until The End Of The World; The Story of Temple Drake; and a Blu upgrade of Tunes of Glory.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:01 (yesterday) link

the 287-min cut of Until the End of the World, damn

omar little, Monday, 16 September 2019 17:09 (yesterday) link

better shorter!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:24 (yesterday) link

disagree, wish he'd release the 20-hour series edit he says he started with, want to live in this film

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 16 September 2019 17:41 (yesterday) link


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