taking sides: _fun house_ or _raw power_

anyhow, the debut is all about attitude, funhouse provides the noise, and raw power, by God, IS rock and roll in all of its obscene glory so it's my pick. (we're talking about the iggy mix, accept no substitutes here.) and it has "search & destroy" which makes me want to slay all before me so obviously it's the greatest song ever.

NO

"Bowies production is awful too."

NO

"Iggy's mix of Raw Power makes it close"

NO

"I feel that the Stooges didn't age well"

NO

"it's intial production (by Bowie) rendered it so tinny and comapritively lifeless"

NO

"Mildly catchy, mildly interesting, mildly annoying, too."

NO

"I prefer the Iggy mix of Raw Power"

NO

"raw power is the critic's choice and funhouse is for those who hate critics"

NO

"they never made a great album as all of their efforts have
something that fuck it up"

NO

"(we're talking about the iggy mix, accept no substitutes here.)"

NO

"S/T since it was produced by Cale and had neither noise nor
rock but instead attitude"

NO

"contains one unlistenable song in "L.A. Blues."

NO

"In my experience, I've converted more of the
unconverted via Raw Power than Funhouse (current score: 3 to 0,) and that kind of populist appeal probably counts for something"

NO

"RAW POWER still kicks a mighty big ass, but you've got to admit that there are some
comparitively weak tracks there"

NO

"the debut is horribly pale and weak in
comparison"

NO

"Rethink: I s'pose the true snobs' answer would be "the unreleased one."

NO

"arguin about these records is pointless.....they are all beautiful untouchable artworks.....each can be appreciated for hellish attitude...even all the unreleased stuff.....these guys were comin apart at the seams and who has come close to POP/WILLIAMSON/ASHETON?????? FUCKEN NOBODY!!!!"

Hahahahaha! OTM!

...and the gatefold snapshot.

That's bullshit. I mean, yeah, the rhythm guitar at the beginning of "Search and Destroy" starts off sounding like "Street Fighting Man," but, like on all the other more revved-up tracks on the album, it ends up being WAY more relentless and yakkety. That was called "punk."

His leads strike me as being very Jimmy Page-like, actually. Matter of fact, now that I think of it, the influence on his rhythm playing seems to have been "Train Kept a-Rollin'"/"Communication Breakdown" (check "Shake Appeal," "Death Trip," maybe even "Raw Power").

Give the guy some fucking credit.

....well, not at the time it wasn't.

I've never heard the Bowie mix.

thats what makes it so damn great!

Personally I get different things out of all three, but if I HAD to choose... Fun House it is.

Anyway, we jammed Raw Power at the COLLEGE PARTY last night.

Raw Power = pop!
Funhouse = noise!

Both great! But I would never play Funhouse at a party

"iggggyy!"

Raw Power is pretty great too, altho neither Bowie's nor Iggy's mix was completely satisfactory.

it would be a tightass pointscoring thing to say that iggy's raw power rules not because there's BASS but because you can hear the GLOCKENSPIEL...but really it's because of the BASS. grunge rock lives!!

i think fun house is better.

Funhouse would be absolutely fine to play at a party, what are you talking about?

if you wanna know why Raw Power is pretty crap, just listen to the 10x better outtakes from those sessions like "Gimme Some Skin" and "I Got A Right." Those two songs alone make Raw Power sound like the dogshit it is (sorry, but Bowie should be drawn + quartered for it). Not to mention "Scene of The Crime" and "Tight Pants" (which is a version of "Shake Appeal" that totally crushes the one on the album)

http://www.concertlivewire.com/jpegs/stooges/stooges4.jpg

'search and destroy' / 'gimme danger' >>>>>>> 'down on the street' / 'loose'

penetration' / 'raw power' = 'tv eye' / 'dirt'

'death trip' > 'fun house'

funhouse also has '1970', but raw power still wins on a countback

'1969' / 'i wanna be your dog' (possibly better than RP and a waaay better opening than FH)

'no fun' / 'ann' (holds its own, 'ann' being of particular note...)

'little doll' (maybe not as powerful and crazy as the other two albums outro's, but its real catchy

penetration' / 'raw power' = 'tv eye' / 'dirt'

you are insane. no, really.

"Raw power isnt even that hot an album"
NO

"Bowies production is awful too."

NO

"Iggy's mix of Raw Power makes it close"

NO

"I feel that the Stooges didn't age well"

NO

"it's intial production (by Bowie) rendered it so tinny and comapritively lifeless"

NO

"Mildly catchy, mildly interesting, mildly annoying, too."

NO

"I prefer the Iggy mix of Raw Power"

NO

"raw power is the critic's choice and funhouse is for those who hate critics"

NO

"they never made a great album as all of their efforts have
something that fuck it up"

NO

"(we're talking about the iggy mix, accept no substitutes here.)"

NO

"S/T since it was produced by Cale and had neither noise nor
rock but instead attitude"

NO

"contains one unlistenable song in "L.A. Blues."

NO

"In my experience, I've converted more of the
unconverted via Raw Power than Funhouse (current score: 3 to 0,) and that kind of populist appeal probably counts for something"

NO

"RAW POWER still kicks a mighty big ass, but you've got to admit that there are some
comparitively weak tracks there"

NO

"the debut is horribly pale and weak in
comparison"

NO

"Rethink: I s'pose the true snobs' answer would be "the unreleased one."

NO

"arguin about these records is pointless.....they are all beautiful untouchable artworks.....each can be appreciated for hellish attitude...even all the unreleased stuff.....these guys were comin apart at the seams and who has come close to POP/WILLIAMSON/ASHETON?????? FUCKEN NOBODY!!!!"

Hahahahaha! OTM!

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, September 3, 2004 8:34 PM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

The people in this thread who were seriously arguing in favor of Iggy's played-through-a-blown-out-answering-machine wannabe-Guitar-Wolf mix of Raw Power were collectively out of their fucking minds.

taking sides: the weirdness vs ready to die

fun house vs exile on main street

Ready to Die is actually a lot better than The Weirdness, and only partly because The Weirdness is the worst album Iggy's ever done. RtD stands on its own merits.

imo: raw power: bowie vs iggy mixes

Fun House

I like The Weirdness.

http://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/181796572_10164947181800431_4648346596775892712_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=vN0ZYp4cCk4AX_ynehV&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=f0fb9f942c486173dd8d0a576ff913b8&oe=60B2B6FB

Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre. Raw Power is pretty good.

WT...?

Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre. Raw Power is pretty good.

Pretty much. Raw Power has some good songs destroyed by inexplicable production choices.

Funhouse is probably “better,” but I’m less likely to throw it on.

(I also love Williamson’s gtr playing, as a matter of personal taste.)

no sax on raw power so fuck that album

Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre. Raw Power is pretty good.

― pomenitul, Sunday, 2 May 2021 

Correct

side 2 of Raw Power kinda drags for me but side 1 is one of the best side 1s ever

pomenitul otm. I don't dislike Raw Power, but it sounded and felt so self-conscious after Fun House, like they were trying to live up to or create or re-create some nebulous myth(s) about themselves...and with a guitarist who was uninterested in taking risks. And wrt the awful production, the drums on Fun House are popping all over the place, the source of that record's agitation; on Raw Power they're buried under a heavy blanket.

Is that a real cartoon or a photoshop?

Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre.

it is absolutely perfect that don gallucci played keyboards on the kingsmen's version of "louie louie" and went on to record the first american prog album (touch) before producing this

Fun House and Raw Power are two of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre.

I love both, though not sure either is the best Stooges record tbh

Tonight I'm listening to the disc from the Fun House box that has 14 takes of "TV Eye" in a row. Because fuck my downstairs neighbors.

RAW POWER

They’re both 5 stars records though