How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Live?

Bartender OTM!

Sir, you did not honour the manure-fueled fire.

Now THAT's a feat!

You guys slay me.

Favorite moment in Hated: Todd the Director is interviewing Unk (of the band, Pig Pen) about his memories of GG, and Unk describes inviting some girl over to a barbecue where GG was going to be for the purposes of peeing in his mouth. Unk stops himself, saying "Ooh, I mentioned her name, you can edit that out, right?" Todd says "Yes,"....BUT LEAVES IT IN! Har.

As amazing as this documentary is, even more memorable is the "50 minutes of bonus footage" on the dvd. This is a home video Phillips made of GG's last performance. Right after this video, GG had a drug binge and overdosed and died and then they put headphones on his bloated body and had a traditional funeral for him but the drummer was still naked when he helped carry the coffin.

His set was supposed to be backed by both Squirrel Bait and Volcano Suns guys, but his behavior during the soundcheck pretty much nixed that idea. I believe he took a shit during the soundcheck, so the club had him on a short leash. He ended up breaking his mic during his set, and the club pulled the plug before he could do too much more damage.

I am stealing this turn of phrase

Oh I think you can rest assured that there are plenty more where they came from, Alex!

well, quite. superb link. thanks!

Hahahahahahahaha.

so I have a queston...

did the dude like eat bran muffins all day or something? I mean who shits THAT MUCH? Every story I read about him involves shit. I knew it was a part of his performance, but he managed to sound check it too?!?

I never saw him and narrowly missed a bad experience. He played a club where I had been sound guy about a month after I quit. Part of the job involved putting away the mics at the end of the night, and in this case, the vocal mic had evidently been in his ass by that point. Ew. I also wouldn't want to the singer for the band playing there the following night.

No, but he did "Road Trip" and "Old School." Todd Phillips - he also did a documentary on frat guys that was supposed to be great but went unaired after HBO buried it when they learned that Phillips crossed some "ethical lines" during a hazing ceremony. I have always meant to look for a bootleg of that film. Anyway, yeah, I guess he's an old punk rocker.
He was recently in the trades for clashing with Sascha Baron Cohen and getting booted as the director of the "Borat" movie.

Oh, the mic-in-the-ass reminds me of the part in "Hated" where he gets brought in to NYU by some eager students on the program board. His entire appearance consists of him walking out naked and shoving a banana up his asshole. People run screaming; end of "speaking engagement." Genius.

My favorite moment in "Hated" is when the narrator says, in a completely deadpan monotone: "GG had some of the most devoted fans in the world," as a still photo of a guy with a passed-out GG's dick in his mouth comes on the screen.

This was ridiculous. Anyone else see this recently? It's on Pitchfork.tv this week.

I've not seen Hated and was a little young to have been able to see him live, but my favorite GG story comes from an interview I read in the early 90s (I believe it was in Alternative Press). The interviewer and GG were having a seemingly (atypical?) intelligent and well-mannered exchange about GG's craft during which he, without warning or provocation, got up from his barstool, urinated on it, and sat back down on it, continuing the conversation as if nothing had happened.

My favorite moment in "Hated" is when the narrator says, in a completely deadpan monotone: "GG had some of the most devoted fans in the world," as a still photo of a guy with a passed-out GG's dick in his mouth comes on the screen.

Who said that was their fave moment? I couldn't find it on the site. Also, what's so ridiculous about it?

he managed to sound check it too?!?

LOL

Also, what's so ridiculous about it?

Well, if memory serves, the snapshot that they cut to depicts one of GG's fans smiling into the camera and giving a thumbs up while performing fellatio on GG, who is passed out cold. Under utterly deadpan narration about his "loyal fans."

I'm still confused. Given GG Allin's polymorphous perversity, isn't that just par for the course?

Levels of devotion (low to high):

- buying tour t-shirt at gig
- searching high & low for 7" and imports and promo materials
- attending 3 or more shows during the same tour in different states
- cyberstalking forums, blogs, etc. whenever your favorite artist is discussed in an unflattering manner
- sucking off said artist when the artist is conscious
- sucking off said artist when the artist is passed out

Devotion? Absolutely. Ridiculousness? Um, we ARE talking about GG Allin here, correct?

I think the guy that's got the dick in his mouth is the "riduculous" part of the equation, but keep on posting about this, because someone's sure to agree with you eventually.

Well, the reason I "keep on posting about this" is because when I saw a preview screening of Hated (with Phillips in attendance) the ONLY shot that elicited genuine shock from the markedly "avant" audience was that one. They greeted everything else with yuks and ews. But that show generated a lower toned "ohhhhhh" like a bunch of blue-haired biddies with their sense of propriety rocked.

So don't kid yourself that it had anything to do with Allin being passed out. They were appalled because they were seeing a man with a dick in his mouth. A crack whore pissing in Allin's mouth while he barfs up hot dogs? That's good times. But m2m fellatio? This will not stand!

And I suspect the same thing is happening here.

But gee, sorry to take up your precious time with it.

Everyone's a homophobe but you, dude. Congrats.

(Astonished by Kevin's post. Actually gobsmacked).

gg allin sucks

no, his fans do

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i112/Johnny_Utah26/Stuff/RIMSHOT.jpg

i was just dating this girl until she told me she made out with mearl once... i was like "did he have the hitler moustache at the time?!?!" she said "yes."

fuckin deal breaker, man.

well i watched this tonight, i liked it.

the dude w/ dick in mouth was no big deal, honestly. i'm surprised they didn't try to get a little more clarity on gg's ambiguous sexuality but i guess maybe counter to the film's "philosophy" and maybe he just couldn't get anything good out of gg on the subject?

also the people in the hometown were pretty hilarious. the "high school buddy" who shows up for an interview in a motorcycle jacket and aviators. the guitarist who dropped out of gg's band and comes across like a total moron. and some of them were downright scary, like the creepy high school teacher and the naked drummer.

I watched the movie again with my wife last night, and I can be seen, very briefly, two or three times during the Space at Chase footage: once when they pan the crowd, and once walking out the door immediately after the show, and possibly one more time when GG is running around inside performing. I have no memory of owning the hat I'm wearing, but my wife says she remembers it.
-- pdf (Phil Freeman),

^^ hero status!!!!

which one are you?!?!?

Watched him through the window at O'Cayz in Madison for long enough to see him piss on the window.

I did. Scary intense old school East Village anarcho-angry-junkie crowd. He punched some girl and she stood there with a smile on her face after he did it. I split.

Because you were obviously paralyzed with puritanical fear from the raw homosexuality in the air? (J/K Kevin ;)

Watched "Frat House." It was pretty lame. The Al Goldstein bio doc he produced was pretty great, though.

I missed the GG/Squirrel Bait/Volcano Suns show too, but I remember seeing the flyers lying by the front door at Wax Trax. Saw him perform a few years later in a small room upstairs at Medusa's. He had pissed on himself so much that his attempts to light his pubic hair on fire were doomed to failure.

Also, not a GG concert, but I think it counts: saw him sitting in the audience in the balcony at Cabaret Metro as part of a club full of people who paid to watch a bunch of classic rock and punk video footage, hosted by the Psychotronic guy. There was some Stooges footage (as I recall it was a segue from footage of Chuck Berry doing the song that "1970" copped a verse from), and as soon as Iggy hit the screen GG leaped out of his chair, screaming "Yeah!" in a paroxysm of joy and idol worship. In a lot of ways that was better than seeing GG perform.

How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Dead?

not me, but this was written by a guy who knows people i know. so i'm, uh, two degrees of separation from seeing gg allin dead. which is as close as i wanna be. (actually mike bowling just popped up a few weeks ago on a knoxville message board, posting from prague. we got in an argument about universal health care.)

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I saw G.G numerous times and talked to him on phone quite abit...I was in Volcano Suns and he opened for us in chicago...he was awful of course...during soundcheck some girl was in the bathroom and he kicked the stall door open and yelled let me eat your tampon...he had heard we did drink fight and fuck so he and some buddy who were traveling together (they had bought greyhound bus passes to go wherever they wanted on tour) were standing at the foot of the stage as we went thru our set...G.G kept yelling drink fight and fuck...wanting to hop up on stage with us and sing...the more he yelled, the less we wanted to do the song of course...just to annoy the guy...so about half way thru the set he and his bro started chanting "Pussies"...all in all a great night and G.G. was very easy guy to wind up which we always enjoyed doing when there was an asshole around...

A few years later I set up a show in Boston where I and two of my friends were his backing band..."Vanilla Douche"...it took alot of smooth talking to even get the club to let us play...I remember being on the phone with him and telling him it was gonna be "G.G Allin and Vanilla Douche"...after a long pause he said "my god, that is a killer name"...he kept asking to come over to my house to rehearse and as my girlfriend at the time would not let him step into the house I gave him the setlist and told him to show up at soundcheck and we would just run thru it and it would be fine...all the songs took about 30 secs apeice to learn anyhow and as I had seen him perform along with a cassette tape, I figured we would be fine...in alot of odd ways he was a total pussycat and an easy guy to strongarm and push around...unfortunately, when we showed up for soundcheck, G.G. had gotten there a half hour before us and proceeded to break a bunch of chairs and then shit on the floor...this with only a bartender or two there...they cancelled the show and threw him out...never saw or heard from G.G. again.

:B

that's what I usually do when i show up half an hour before everyone else

from an interview w/ live skull in '89 where I asked about their encounter w/ GG

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/GG_live_skull_1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/GG_live_skull_2.jpg

His set was supposed to be backed by both Squirrel Bait and Volcano Suns guys, but his behavior during the soundcheck pretty much nixed that idea. I believe he took a shit during the soundcheck

immense irl lol

Nah, not me. Adult humans that get shit on me on purpose might have a tendency to bleed and stop living. I've had Iggy Pop stage-dive sweat on me before, and the singer from Anti-seen bled on me once, but I draw the line at poop. Sorry.

This Chicago showstopper?

Didn't the Geeg arrive on the greyhound brandishing a half empty bottle of scotch and a grubby miniature dildo in a brown paper bag? Said dildo being quadruple the size of the Geeg tail?

One of my nephew's friends had him hiding out at his house in Tampa, and he offered to introduce me to him. I chickened out. I regret this quite a bit.

via the chicago show...noone, not us, or bait was supposed to "back" him...have no idea where any of that came from...noone ever would have been agreed to soemthing so silly...the guy got off a greyhound with, I still remember, his buddy....bloody f. mess...who was up front during his bananarama thing singing to a cassette...BF mess taking pics with some tiny kodak tourist camera like he was at disneyworld and getting an up close of some fucked up goofy...

ack...by the way, which got me into this mess...our cover of drink fight and fuck is up on our myspace site...volcano suns ect and blah...should you want to hear it...we worked real hard on getting that Fuck into a new hamshire fuc...

Bloody Mess from Peoria or somewhere? A geeg clone. We all need them, yes?

Fuck it , I'm English and it's not my cup of tea

Volcano Suns were fucking great btw.

'Balancing Act' would still make it for me.

'Wellness'

just in case there was a demand for an acoustic cover of "I Kill Everything I Fuck"

Wow.

The Volcano Suns were a great band, I have a load of their records.

I actually like a lot of GG Allin songs but I think I'd have a harder time liking them if he wasn't dead, if that makes any sense.

Thurston (Moore, bassist for living colour)

i was just dating this girl until she told me she made out with mearl once... i was like "did he have the hitler moustache at the time?!?!" she said "yes."

fuckin deal breaker, man.

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^^^^^GREATEST POST IN ILX HISTORY

The wikipedia article needs amending here However, his status as a cult figure is such that a number of bands have covered his songs. Among them, Faith No More has covered "I Wanna Fuck Myself", CKY has covered "Bite it You Scum", the 69 Eyes have covered "Gimme Some Head," Beck has covered "Tough Fucking Shit", and The Lemonheads have covered "Layin' Up With Linda". to add Joseph Cotton.

x-post - ha yes, that is awesome

I used to know the director who made Hated and at one point thought it was the greatest thing because he was just so fucking ridiculous but haven't watched it in years. I don't think I would have gone to see Allin irl if you had paid me though.

the 69 Eyes have covered "Gimme Some Head,"

this is one of the saddest songs in history, by the way - there's a poignancy to it because it predates GG actually figuring out what's shocking - it sounds like it was written by a guy who's really never done much but suspects there's a whole really transgressive world out there, but the most transgressive thing he can really think of is some head. Hey ,now , girls, I want lip-service/I don't wear a uniform and I'm not in the service/I've been in all day never seein' the sun/but when the sun goes down to the night I come/girls ,girls ,girls ,girls/gimme ,gimme ,gimme some head/I like the nasty things that you do to me in bed. Yes, GG. The incredibly nasty things as for example this really common sex practice that everybody does. I am excited to hear that you don't leave the house til after the sun goes down though! Incredible! Do the authorities know about this?

Really, that this song begins "Hey now, girls," is the sort of thing that, on the wrong day on a big enough sleep deficit, will make me cry for several hours

I believe he took a shit during the soundcheck

also lol'd. hadn't realised he was such a perfectionist

Cosign 'aerosmith's' post above.

It's the underlying subtext to "Man in a Shed" by Nick Drake.

CKY has covered "Bite it You Scum"

misread that as CSNY for a second there

say what you want about GG musically, but "gimme some head" is one damn catchy tune

all the early stuff I've heard with the Jabbers is great. some of my favourite punk tunes.

also, even the pre-Jabbers material. are Love Tunnel, Lover's Triangle and 1980's Rock n Roll pre-Jabbers? those tracks are almost unrecognisable from later stuff.

The Scumfucs era is pretty good too IMO, after that it all goes to shit lol see what I did there

Anyone know where we can find dave q's awesome post about that SF show, referenced way up top? I remember being very entertained by that, I think it was on another thread.

As a followup local postscript...he is buried over in Littleton N.H. right on Vermont border...I think that is the name of the town tho I could be wrong...one of the little local papers runs a story every six months or so about "fans" of his doing odd things at his grave...leaving odd shit around, bothering the other graves ect ect...

personally, I never minded the guy...I just thought he was most likely a schizophrenic...common enough problem really...

all goes to shit lol see what I did there

Yes I did see, Colonel Poo...

"leaving odd shit around"

as opposed to even.

If GG had been a computer programmer, it would have been bytes of shit.

Seriously one of the best punk songs ever, if you ask me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqOnYaVdosA

I attended, purely to see what was there. It was memorable! Certainly it wasn't for everyone.

Inspired by this thread, just watched "Hated." His pee-pee was tiny.

I mean, I've seen newborns with bigger pee-pees. I think this may have been the source of G.G.'s rage.

i've heard it was because of cocaine use.

Tell that to John Holmes.
All the piss, shit and blood in Hated and everyone just remembers GG's mini-dick. What a legacy.

also there seem to be stories about him cutting off the tip, though I'm sure you'd be able to tell from pics whether that is true.

another thing: if he was so pissed about that, why would he make sure everyone knew about it?

I'm joking, kids.

I thought it was a good doc but the director's comment at the end, something along the lines, "I'd hoped GG Allin would have died in a more spectacular fashion, on stage suicide taking five fans with him, instead he died like a typical rock star" was enraging. What a FUCKING STUPID thing to say. Yeah, it would have been so much better if he'd taken five people with him. What a load.

tbf he did specify "GG Allin fans"

and less people just is less people

The 50-minute bonus footage was incredible, especially the very clean cut guy in a sort of raincoat who kept following GG around and sticking his fingers up GG's shitty asshole.