Haruomi Hosono

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hey don't get us bobs mixed up now. i'd be interested to know about hosono & his happy end (not that godawful female beass band who went by the same name). fuck what that alan minter-face lopez woman has done to "firecracker" by YMO , though, i mean MOST pointless woman with a fat arse and a boxer's face in the world or what. faecal smearge on her part. whay can't she stay home instead of going to the studio with her lackeys?

bob snoom, Saturday, 24 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
Of his '70s albums, Bon Voyage Co., Tropical Dandy, Pacific, and Cochin Moon are all pretty great exotic pop albums. 'Hosono House,' his first album from 1973 is the only one that isn't very interesting. Overall, my favorite album of his is 'Omni Sight Seeing' from 1989, which Miharu Koshi plays on. It has a great Eastern (like Arab) vibe.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Miharu Koshi—a Hosono protege—is fantastic, I love all her 80s albums. Autoportrait is a good compilation.

I'd highly recommend Hosono's Monad Box, a collection of three of his instrumental and ambient records from the early 80s. My favourite of the discs included is Coincidental Music, which is short pieces made for advertising and promotional films. Sort of electronic Satie. Rather more delicate and strange than Sakamoto's work of the period.

Hosono's best solo song album is S-F-X, a Fairlight-heavy opus from 1984. There's a clip of one track here. And here are some pictures of Hosono, who's now a bit fatter, plays in Sketch Show, and runs the Daisyworld label.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I have Bon Voyage and Tropical Dandy and love them to death. (a friend of mine pointed out that a few tunes on these are practically randy newman progressions, which I never noticed). are the "tin pan alley" ones on par with those?

Unfortunately, getting any of this in the US is near impossible. the only other thing i've managed to track down (through dusty groove) was this bizarre early 80's record that he was apparently only partially involved with, which was a strange "top of the pops" sort of medley of about 15 60's-70's pop/disco standards and a few mediocre jazz-fusion originals.

b'angelo, Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to hear these albums very badly, especially Cochin Moon. They're close to impossible to find here.

'More delicate and strange' than early 80's Sakamoto is quite a teaser. Sakamoto's B-2 Unit and Esperanto are already fairly strange (if not delicate) records, but those were the odd ones out.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

As a big YMO fan, who indeed hasn't indeed gotten to the bottom of their own back catalogue, are there any websites or articles that explains the YMO family tree and recommends any further listening?

mzui (mzui), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Most of Hosono's albums are very easy to find in Japan, especially his '70s ones. The only one I own, though, is 'S-F-X'. But your best bet is www.cdjapan.co.jp I make a lot of orders from there.

I agree with Momus--Miharu Koshi is one of the greatest, most underrated Japanese artists of the '80s. She evolved from an insiginifant pop idol in the late '70s to a completely original synth-pop artist. Since the late '80s she's become a bit too idiosyncratic for my tastes ('Chanson Solaire' from '95 is probably her best from that era), but her albums are still beautifuI and I have the highest respect for her. She's due for a new album soon. I think 'Boy Soprano' from '85 is her best album--a perfect combination of her early synth-pop work and later chanson stuff. Unfortunately, her stuff is very hard to find, even in Japan. Her albums pop up on ebay, but they're always quite expensive. 'Boy Soprano' is probably the easiest to find.

One of my favorite Hosono-related bands is Chakra. They put out only three albums in the early '80s, and Hosono produced their second. They're all utterly essential exotic pop albums. Makoto Yano (Akiko Yano's first husband) produced their first album. The singer, Mishio Ogawa, put out four solo albums too, and they're also essential (especially her s/t). The last three were just reissued a few weeks ago actually, and I had never heard them beforehand. So I'm excited about those...they're very good.

Now that I'm talking about Japanese synth-pop, I'll make a few more recommendations. I recently discovered Taeko Onuki (or Ohnuki) and am completely in love. She started in the mid '70s, making more fusion-oriented pop albums, and then she teamed up with Ryuichi Sakamoto in the late '70s and started churning out one amazing pop album after the next. 'Adventure' (1981) is probably my favorite, but I have a lot that I've yet to hear!

Moon Riders are another of my favorites. They've been around since the '70s as well and, in my opinion, reached their peak in the early '80s with 'Mania Maniera' and 'Tokyo wa...'. They've spanned a lot of different style, but never put out a bad album.

Perhaps my favorite is Masami Tsuchiya's 'Rice Music' album (1982) and his follwing Ippu-Do album 'Night Mirage' (1983). Members of the band Japan assist on those two albums, as well as the fretless great Percy Jones. Bowie-esque vocals, experimental, angular guitar work (plus Bill Nelson doing his e-bow thing), completely out of control bass playing, steel drums, layers of synths, etc. Basically it's a hilariously awesome rhythm section with great songs too. I couldn't recommend these two albums more. It's too bad that 'Night Mirage' was never released on CD and 'Rice Music' is impossible to find on CD.....

Oh, and P-Model is another synth-pop great.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

And, addressing that last question, these two sites are by far the best out there on Japanese synth-pop.

http://park10.wakwak.com/~techno/

http://www.artcontext.com/music/artskool/jem

That second one appears to be currently down for some reason....

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I just listend to Cochin Moon today!

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey Leone, I was going to send you an email earlier about how I appreciated you Wha-ha-ha review. In the review you said the singer goes by Mishio...well that's Mishio Ogawa that I was talking about up there. Check out Chakra! You should dig them. I much prefer them to Wha-ha-ha, who are a bit too off the wall for my tastes.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

By the way, if anybody wants any of the stuff I recommended (or any other J synth-pop that I might have) just send me an email and I can hook you up.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I must do that

I love Wha-ha-ha

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I still can't get over how those Wha-ha-ha albums are getting this much (though minute in the scheme of things) attention. I mean they're good, but they're just so obscure. I can think of so many things that should logically receive attention before those. I'm not criticizing anything, I just find it odd. Is there some connection to this band that I'm missing? Any non-Japanese players on it?

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link

ReR put out a Wha-ha-ha compilation in the 80s that exposed them to Westerners (albeit ones into avant-prog and experimental music). I haven't really seen a lot of other reviews for them, but I'm guessing that some people just remember that LP.

Also, apparently Mishio was in Killing Time, so I need to check her out.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah okay.

Yes, I've been looking for Killing Time for a long time. Please let me know if you get a hold of their stuff.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link

There's also an album by Love, Peace & Trance from the '90s. Mishio is "Trance," two women I'm unfamiliar with are the "Love" and "Peace" and Haruomi Hosono is the "&". The cover is kind of funny in that way. It's from '94 I think and kind of worldy...a bit more ambient too. Worth checking out.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Bon Voyage and Tropical Dandy thirded or whatever. yes the Randy Newman progressions, but they also remind me of James Taylor or something equally soft. which may be a compliment since Don Cornelius called him the funkiest white man ever.
and yes to Cochin Moon (placed it on my Pitchfork list of the 70s), but it's completely different. never familiarized myself with YMO though.

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, there is definitely a strange smooth singer/songwriter vibe to them- for some reason I kept thinking Van Morrison, but that might be more vocal style/phrasing than anything else. How would you characterize Cochin Moon as different? curious because it is one of the few things hypothetically US-available, albeit w/a $40+ price tag

b'angelo, Friday, 13 May 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Cochin Moon is about the furthest possible thing from a singer-songwriter vibe: imagine a tropical space world where all matter flows in and out of states, and everyone uses Tangerine Dream's keyboards. "It's a trip."

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like a good place to be, then. Is that the one that tadanori yokoo had some sort of involvement with?

b'angelo, Friday, 13 May 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, apparently the cover design was yokoo's. Check it out:

http://www.sonymusicshop.jp/smdr/sms/img/goods/L/KICS-1139.jpg

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

where do you find it for $40?

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

making out a yesasia order for Cochin Moon todays. not sure whether to order the 2nd or 3rd album or a copy of S-F-X... are the 2nd and 3rd albums very similar to the first?

Patrick; Dleone's correct about the ReR connection, I grew up as a Recommended Records fanboy, buying anything they'd put out... Though I didn't finally hear Wha-Ha-Ha until researching backwards from the first Haniwa All-Stars record, which blew my mind in the early 90's. My interest in Senba's early Haniwa records & Wha-Ha-Ha is precisely because they're so eccentric & hard to figure out. I don't imagine they're particularly representative of early 80's JPop.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Milton, I NEED those Haniwa albums!! Is there any way I can get a hold of those from you? Please let me know. I can hook you up with the Chakra albums or whatever else you need.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

milton.parker@gmail.com -- I've got all four of them and would love to trade for Chakra, solo Mishio, anything else

the yesasia site is listing this album in hosono searches, the title is killing me... have you heard it?

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=FHCF-2344

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I have that one. Though it's probably not as "bizarre" as you'd think. Moon Riders are fairly accessible by our standards. Their earlier albums are superior in my opinion. I'm a huge fan, and have most of their albums ('Amateur Academy' from 1984 is the one I really need). I'll email you.

The easiest way for me to get this stuff to you is through Soulseek. My name on their is Magazine, so message me if you use that program. The only other way I can think of is YSI, which will take a little while (though it's not too much trouble really).

B'angelo has some requests too. Whatever you guys request, I'll get it to you some time this weekend (or now if you have slsk).

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Basically, the ideal music for me is early '80s exotic Japanese synth-pop with fretless bass and steel drums.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Cochin Moon recently has been reissued on CD in Japan. When I was in Tokyo in April, Tower had at least a half dozen copies. Don't sleep--this is an all-time classic of next-level exotica, abounding with bizarre synth tones and textures.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 14 May 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Has he done any more stuff along the lines of SFX? I enjoyed that very much...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Reissue of Cochin Moon sounds great btw.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 17 June 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

still need to hear SFX, but thanks again to patrick for setting me up with that massive trade.

Cochin Moon, way closer to mid-70's Cluster than I would have ever expected (though I do prefer Cluster). A surprise, even given Dominque's Tangerine Dream reference -- definitely in the 70's trance/synth records pantheon.

Bon Voyage & Tropical Dandy much more tin-pan-alley than electronic, but Paraiso is off-kilter, lays the way out for the first YMO. Omni Sight Seeing, thumbs up if you like late YMO. I like Hosono's solo mainstream pop records much more than Sakamoto's, no contest.

Miharu Koshi's Boy Soprano, wow.

And the Mishio Ogawa & Chakra stuff is eye-opening after a lifetime of Haniwa fandom. Chakra's much more straightforward / less quirky, but I'm very happy just to be able to place Haniwa in context with, well, _anything_.

Boy Soprano, the Mishio Ogawa debut, & Cochin Moon are the three I ordered online after hearing the mp3's.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 17 June 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Cochin Moon is very enjoyable -- if not particularly immediate, which makes it perhaps a little odd how universally admired it appears to be (Best of the 70's lists and all). I confess it only really impacted me when I went through a heavy analog phase. Also, I'm only hearing the early Cluster '71 in the "Malabar Hotel" sections, really -- I do enjoy how mutilated all the vocals are, however...

Am I correct that this has Sakamoto on it?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 21 November 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link

yes

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I did eventually get S-F-X, and I like it okay -- side one is his tin-pan-alley songwriting poured into super clunky mid-80's j-electro, and side two are abstract quiet instrumentals. 'Alternative 3' is a very disjointed cut-up track that sounds like where Holger Hiller ended up on As Is about six years later, and 'Androgena' is a duet with Miharu Koshi and I heart Miharu Koshi.

I dunno though... even though his pop is weirder than Sakamoto's, Sakamoto's pure experimental albums (B-2 Unit & Esperanto) are 1000% more bizarre and advanced than Hosono's, those albums are timeless.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

First time I heard Cochin Moon was while tripping on acid with members of Vas Deferens Organization. I wish I could freeze that moment in time forever; it was one of the most amazing experiences I've ever had. I owe those guys a huge debt of gratitude for introducing me to that album and many other obscure psychedelic classics.

original plagiarist, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

hey dominique

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1004088657/code-j/section-videos/

(this should probably go on the noise board's wha-ha-ha thread but too late)

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link

oh hell they deserve their own thread anyways

Kiyohiko Senba and his Haniwa All Stars

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

SFX has some fantastic Fairlight stuff on it, though. And enough listens to Cochin Moon have at least motivated me to think he's every bit as advanced/sophisticated/whatever as Sakamoto.

BTW, what exactly did Andy Partridge do on B-2 Unit?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

definitely the rhythm guitar on "6 o'clock News", and there are other little plucks & screeches on other tracks that could be him, maybe. If you listen to the Mr. Partridge Take Away solo album from around the same time you can hear his basic vocabulary of weird guitar sounds

I dunno Matthew, you heard Esperanto?

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link

r. stevie moore's 1980 review of take away

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

definitely the rhythm guitar on "6 o'clock News"

You mean that electric guitar in the right-channel that's barely audible and sounds as if it's unplugged? If so, that's...odd.

I dunno Matthew, you heard Esperanto?

Most of it — I just re-listened again this morning (have about 6 tracks downloaded). Assuming they aren't remixes, I'd say it's good but no B-2 Unit — lots mallet-y textures and ambience. But if you think I'm missing something, maybe I should re-download to verify that I'm listening to the right tracks.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

First time I heard Cochin Moon was while tripping on acid with members of Vas Deferens Organization

ha, I first heard it with "members of the Vas Deferens Organization" too. My member was Eric

news you can use: japanese CDs are too damned expensive

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

track 1 of Esperanto should be called "a WONGGA dance song" and it's anything but ambient...

I am beginning to miss the days when people were relatively certain they were talking about the same record. A few days ago at a dinner party someone put on something interesting, and when I asked what it was he said it was the new Boards of Canada. He didn't believe me when I told him that it wasn't, he just brought over to his iPod to show me the tags.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

brought me over etc. & I know you're not like that Matthew, I'm just feeling ancient

I put on Omni Sight Seeing last night, that is definitely my favorite Hosono pop album, every song...

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

First time I heard Cochin Moon was while tripping on acid with members of Vas Deferens Organization

And I first read that as "tripping on acid with members of Van Der Graaf Generator.

I am beginning to miss the days when people were relatively certain they were talking about the same record.

No kidding — but I think Dom's "news you can use" is the culprit in this instance. And actually, that's one of the 2 tracks I don't have. Still, p2p's are great for finding rarities...

Is there a good Hosono comp, btw?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

ha, I first heard it with "members of the Vas Deferens Organization" too. My member was Eric

I had both Matt and Eric in the room, with running commentary and interpretive facial expressions. THAT is a proper introduction to Cochin Moon, let me tell you.

original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW, Jon -- since it was on a separate EP that was only added to CD issues of SFX, have you heard the Hosono track "Non-Standard Mixture"? Just askin', b/c it's a great little Fairlight jam, me thinks -- not the clunky electro to which you referred above...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

to the YSI machine then!

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I love clunky electro, my CD of SFX starts with that track. I sound way too critical above, I liked all of these records.

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

All Hail the YSI Machine:

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CE5XMURV2R7N2CTJUHM631DW7

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Here is Track 3 on Side B of Tropical Dandy, Sanji no Komori Uta (3 o'Clock Lullaby), the solo acoustic song that's followed immediately by its own, lushly arranged instrumental version.

In the Tropical Trilogy era, Hosono was really outdoing himself with album closers (or... well, I don't know what to call this, sort-of-closers? it's the last song with vocals, at least, and everything after feels like one long and ingenious epilogue). Exotica Lullaby is similarly beautiful, lyrically. What a spirit a person must have to write songs as sweet, tender, and wistful as these two (and Honey Moon, that one's outstanding too, as the music would lead you to imagine).

...

Dream thee now, here on my lap
while an old record is playing.
And you, wind; and you, light; outside my window there.
This is the three o'clock lullaby.

Until somebody knocks on the door,
we'll be stuffing this old magic bottle
full of tea and full of stories
here beneath a cold tin roof.

When we've discussed the town gossip
and when we've sung that hit song even though it's a hit song,
tell me about the rest of your dream.
That will be my lullaby.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 15 February 2024 12:18 (two months ago) link

Not a lot of people on this thread gravitate to Happy End or the early Hosono like I do, so I don't know how much interest this stuff holds for you folks, but now that I've been translating it, I'm addicted to Tropical Dandy all over again. I'll fill in the blanks in the coming days (sans mostly-Portuguese opener).

Here's Honey Moon. Beautifully sparse in Japanese, the personal pronouns vaguely implied rather than stated. The ending's open to interpretation: is he talking about death? There's such blissful relaxation in Hosono's delivery when he sings that penultimate line (1:31 to 1:45 or thereabouts).

...

My heart is the setting sun.
The honey moon is in the sky.
At night angels will come to earth.
Our dreams are the sway of their hair.

A serenade like the touch of silk.
The honey moon is in the sky.
My chest is a pegasus, trembling,
its mane swaying.

Shall I captivate you with a love song?
The full moon is approaching on tiptoe.
You and I will head back up to the moon --
but not quite yet, it's still too soon.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 16 February 2024 07:18 (two months ago) link

Oops, missed the last line: after some more humming, there's:

Here we sway.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 16 February 2024 07:19 (two months ago) link

Dandying on. Track 1 on Side B, Hyouryuuki (The Castaway's Song). People talk about that feeling of liberation in Hosono's music, of "anything is allowed" and "anything is okay." Lyrically, it's much the same thing, as I'm learning daily. Harry felt like writing a song from a castaway's perspective? Well...

...

The phantom of the town I'm from
comes floating underneath me.
I'm not going anywhere.
I'm on a raft.

(Chorus)
At last I make it to a deserted island,
the merest shadow of a man.
Entrusting my life to the heat,
I start to whistle,
as out of tune as ever.
Some things never change.

The town floats onward, underneath me.
I pole the raft along.
If I dive down, I'll remember very clearly
the town that I was born in.

(and the chorus again)

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 17 February 2024 09:54 (two months ago) link

Last track on Side A of ropical Dandy, Peking Duck. Didn't expect this to literally be about a Peking Duck. The red shoes presumably being the fire as the roasting commences. A song of Buddhist sympathy, then? (Chow Chow Dog, the song on Bon Voyage Co with all the references to nirvana, is about a dog kept for meat -- sensing a bit of a theme here).

...

In Yokohama, rain falls on a brightly lit street.
It's just like that old movie "Singing in the Rain" --
the rain, the man, his song.

You're wearing red shoes,
you're in the company of three foreigners,
you're stuck in a cage and bewildered.
Chinatown is an ocean of flame.

(Chorus)
Escape, duck, hurry!
The fire is bouncing, crackling, howling.
Escape from this city that burns bright red!
You're clearly the so-called Peking Duck.

In Yokohama, on a brightly-lit street,
the fire climbs higher.
It's just like it would be in a dream:
Chinatown is an ocean of flame.

(Chorus)

The rain and the burning flame are buffeting your back.
Escape!
Your chest is getting firmer.
You're becoming that so-called Peking Duck.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 18 February 2024 13:53 (two months ago) link

The last Tropical Dandy song: Kinu Kaidou (Silk Road), Track 3 on Side A, my favorite on the album. It's like Asatoya Yunta on Paraiso, I could play it a hundred times in a row and not get bored.

...

I swagger through the magic wasteland,
carrying strange artifacts.
Malevolent demons, make way for me!
If not, I'll slap you down.

(Chorus)
As I go, I call out to the clouds
and in one bound soar over a hundred thousand leagues.
The Silk Road goes to the ends of the earth,
unto even the markets of Persia.

Worthless scum,
I'll knock you flying!
Have a taste of this karate chop
and flee, tail between legs.

(Chorus)

The road leads on
to the great cities of the west.
I will find you and challenge you
though it takes all my strength to do it!

(Chorus)

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 19 February 2024 13:13 (two months ago) link

Have a taste of this karate chop

lol

frogbs, Monday, 19 February 2024 13:30 (two months ago) link

The new work term at uni is looming so I won't be able to keep this pace up for long, but on the bright side, there's not much left of the stuff released under Hosono's own name. Happy End translations are a project I'm looking forward to passionately but Matsumoto has his own tricky sides (less pure wordplay, more poetic/literary elements), and I'll probably want to boost my language skills first. The Happy End lyrics are phenomenal.

Speaking of poetic/literary elements, here's another Hosono song from Horo, this time with his own lyrics: the great, chilled-out, mildly eerie Bon Voyage Hatoba (Bon Voyage Pier). Here's the Horo version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhaOJlEB81g

And the re-recorded version on Kosaka's next album, 1978's Morning. Sakamoto's on record as a fan of this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcBQinNKy7A

It may not sound like much at first, but it works itself under your skin.

The second verse was practically incomprehensible to me. Casting around for help, I found a Japanese poet singling out the second verse as a sign of Hosono's lyrical skills. So there you have it, Matsumoto wasn't the only literary one! (That poet also quoted a segment of an interview in which Hosono was asked why he didn't become a professional lyricist. The answer: "Well, Matsumoto was around.")

...

We're twenty kilometers away from the dead of night:
dripping darkness, oozing sky.
Come along, come along.
Soon the city will break the surface.

The wandering city -- love's hidden home --
unable to settle itself in time.
Come along, come along.
Together we'll step right over the night.

(Chorus)
Bon voyage.
Midnight in the harbor of the heart.
Bon voyage.

We're twenty kilometers away from the pier:
waves dripping, made of memories.
Come along, come along.
Soon the sea will fall asleep.

(Chorus)

We're twenty kilometers away from the dead of night:
dripping darkness, oozing sky.
Come along, come along.
Together we'll fly straight across the night.

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 13:11 (two months ago) link

Exotica Lullaby: another song that makes me cry now that I know the lyrics. The words off the page alone don't do it, but man, when that prechorus hits, with its shift to minor, and Hosono comes in singing those lines!

...

A boat is flying across the moon.
I wonder where it's going.
Behind the clouds, on the floating island,
the gondola sways,
and sways, and sways, and sways,
carrying children's dreams on board.
Every night, it comes to meet us.
Can you see it?

(Prechorus)
If you're crying -- if the tears won't stop --
how about we go up there together?
We need only sprinkle a little fairy powder,
and look, we're floating!

(Chorus)
This is your and my lullaby.
An exotic lullaby, lullaby, lullaby.

(repeat second half of the verse)
(repeat prechorus)
(repeat chorus)

Every night, the gondola comes to meet us.
Let's get on.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:09 (one month ago) link

that's a cute little acoustic guest room cover

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 22 February 2024 08:01 (one month ago) link

thanks so much for these translations, hopefully they can all be archived somewhere. though ILX is pretty safe ;)

is there a tracklist for the tribute album out anywhere? wonder if it's gonna be mostly Hosono House stuff or if it's gonna dig into the weeds a bit. there's such a variety of stuff to choose from.

frogbs, Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:08 (one month ago) link

Thanks Frog! I'm slowly collecting them on my own site/blog (grainsparrow.blogger.com), which is technically no safer than anywhere else on the internet, but it'll be where I make revisions -- the words to Focus are in much better shape already!

The album Mare linked to being linked to celebrations of Hosono House's 50th anniversary (I looked around for a tracklist too and got nothing) makes me wonder whether Light in the Attic might be saving reissues of Tropical Dandy and Bon Voyage Co for 2025 and 2026.

I did a translation yesterday but ran out of time to post it. Here's Black Peanuts, a Tropical Dandy outtake that ended up on the immaculate Side B of Bon Voyage Co. I figured it was a novelty number... not exactly. It's part-tribute to Charlie Parker's Salt Peanuts, and part political satire -- about something called the Lockheed Scandal, which apparently involved lotta big-name government figures in Japan getting bribed by an airline company, something along those lines. A "peanut" was code name for the bribes, one peanut amounting to $3333.

Love Hosono's vocals on this.

...

(Verse)
Black peanuts!
You can buy a poor man with one.
Yum, salt peanuts!
Do come and buy one on occasion.
Black peanuts!
Pick a peanut you like and bribe someone with it.
Magic peanuts!
They're perfect for purchasing the poor.

(Chorus)
Oh shopkeeper, you're making so merry.
You hawk your fares resoundingly
in a voice that's so, so loud.
It's going to be a problem, you know.
"Come on in! Come on in!"
Fine, but -- through the back door.
And say it in a subdued voice:
"Go ahead, please -- take one!"

(repeat verse and chorus)

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 23 February 2024 02:06 (one month ago) link

(Except dot blogspot dot com for the translation/revision archive.)

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 23 February 2024 02:08 (one month ago) link

Huh. I thought the song was really about peanuts.

frogbs, Friday, 23 February 2024 04:53 (one month ago) link

Frog has written elsewhere that

1. Sports Men sounds to him kinda like Hosono doing Takahashi,
2. the BGM song Happy End is like Sakamoto doing Hosono,
3. and Mass is like Hosono doing Sakamoto.

There's actually a track on Coincidental Music, Normandia, that is *literally* Hosono doing Sakamoto. The guy who commissioned the song asked Hosono to write him a Sakamoto song. This was post-YMO, summer '84, and Sakamoto heard it in a commercial on TV and thought, "Wow, that sure sounds like me." And then discovered the composer was Hosono.

So, I think Pom Pom Jyouki (Pom Pom Steam) is Hosono doing Eiichi Ohtaki. It's lighthearted, fast, fun -- like merton on RYM describing Ohtaki's solo debut, "it's there, it makes you happy, it's gone" -- and like a lot of Ohtaki, it's a quirky rewrite of a fifties song, in this case Sea Cruise -- no one's trying to hide it, the whole chorus line of Sea Cruise gets quoted. Hosono takes the song far away from its origins but the skeletal structure is the same.

And these lyrics! My respect for Hosono just keeps growing. It's so playful, but Hosono leans in to the scenario with 100% commitment and 100% warmth. And it works so well with the arrangement. I kept cracking up as I worked on this.

...

Bopping along to this old man rhythm,
in the night breeze, in the harbor light.
How about goin' to the pier? (Yeah, let's go.)
So it's decided. Stylish and dapper, we set out in large numbers.
About time to head back.
Are you crazy, no way!
We get on board gladly.
Pom pom steam!

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
A fair wind moves us along: swoosh.

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
It's so comfortable, pom pom steam.

The semi-diesel engine eggs us on.
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire.
That girl over there is really cute. (Yeah, really cute!)
So it's decided. Stylish and dapper, we set out in large numbers.
About time to enjoy the night breeze,
which can only be done on deck.
Pom pom steam!

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
A fair wind moves us along: swoosh.

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
Pom pom steam!
Pom pom steam!
Pom pom steam!

Down on the street it's pretty crazy, some band's playing boogie-woogie.
Won't you let me take you on a sea cruise?
One of us got jilted. (Yeah, jilted.)
So it's decided. Stylish and dapper, we're all going to dance.
About time to head back.
Are you crazy, no way!
It's so comfortable.
Pom pom steam!

Swoosh swoosh swoosh...

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 24 February 2024 00:06 (one month ago) link

Here is the twice-teased Chow Chow Dog, written after encounters with dogs destined to be killed for food, in the same Chinatown in Yokohama that inspired Peking Duck.

Tin Pan Alley was so good at reggae. Tatsuo Hayashi forever!

...

Inescapable jail.
Inescapable jail.

Shortly before dawn,
I will bid this world farewell.
But before that
I will sleep like a log
and dream.

I am a chow chow dog.
I am the carefree Prince of Woof.
I'm the hero of the story!
Like, for instance, Rin Tin Tin.

(Chorus)
You are a chow chow dog.
You must wake up
if you wish to know
the road to heaven,
You are a chow chow dog.
Prajñāpāramitā.
Chant it, and nirvana will blossom in your heart.
(Nirvana I say, you chow chow dog!)

(Bridge)
The locale? The far end of China --
far, far, far away.
Tied in chains.
Inescapable prison.
Inescapable jail.

Soon the day will break.
I will bid this world farewell.
I forget anything and everything
and dream.

You are a chow chow dog.
You are the carefree Prince of Woof.
The hero of the story.
Like, for instance, Rin Tin Tin.

(Chorus / What goes around must come around.)

(Bridge)

And then the footsteps of the demon
gradually get louder.
Break through the cage!
And, escaping, make straight for your distant hometown.

Ah, but this chow chow dog,
this carefree Prince of Woof,
is merely dreaming he's a hero,
that Rin Tin Tin that he adores.

(Chorus)

(Chorus / What goes around must come around.)

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 24 February 2024 23:20 (one month ago) link

music from memory recording artists the zenmenn have done their own brief versions of 'Asatoya Yunta', 'Shimendoka' and 'Saigo no Rakuen' in tribute to harry...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xllQpdOavBA

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 29 February 2024 22:47 (one month ago) link

Finally had time for a new translation: Bon Voyage Co's opener, Chouchou-san (Mister Butterfly).

...

Please teach me how to fly,
oh Mister Butterfly.
She ran away from Tokyo,
now she's an ocean liner girl.

The captain sails away.
Wait! Wait just a moment, please!
She boarded a ship out of Tokyo.
I need to go to her side.

Mister Butterfly -- captain, sir --
show me how to fly away with you.
As soon as I meet that girl,
we'll say farewell -- bye bye --
Mister Butterfly.

Please teach me how to fly,
oh Mister Butterfly.
The ocean liner ship is flying
from Tokyo to the ocean's end.

Captain, sir, wait!
Just for the sake of it,
wait just a moment, please!
Mister Butterfly flies off.
The ocean's end is paradise.

Mister Butterfly -- captain, sir --
show me how to fly away with you.
As soon as I meet that girl,
we'll say farewell -- bye bye --
Mister Butterfly.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:15 (one month ago) link

Love this version, listen to that lovely draggy drum intro, so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFXJNCVRDrU-

Maresn3st, Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:17 (one month ago) link

Yeah, that's an amazing version. Tin Pan Alley were (are? I think they reconvene now & then, still) one of the best bands to ever roam the earth. Thank God they recorded, like, 100000000 albums.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 11 March 2024 05:01 (one month ago) link

Peak Kermit The Frog vocals from Harry too (not a criticism)

Maresn3st, Monday, 11 March 2024 09:41 (one month ago) link

Hosono's post-YMO '80s are absolutely insane... SFX and the Apogee & Perigee record from '84 rule, and I'm just now realizing that the Making of Non-Standard Music EP is top-notch too, a preview of what's to come with Monad (at least, on the B-side). The Monad records -- I can't even comprehend... Nokto is beyond beautiful, most of us know that already, so let me emphasize how generously Paradise View starts rewarding close, careful listens. Sounded samey and hard-to-fathom on first several listens, but just give it time. The Endless Talking feels like one of the wildest and weirdest ideas for an album ever: like a Best Of of the same year it came out in, and the one before; but deconstructed/remade into something new and unlike anything else in Hosono's discography -- as dark and nightmarish as Hosono gets. Sex, Energy and Star from '86 is more of a production job than a Hosono solo album, but it's fantastic all the same: it's very much the spirit of SFX carried forward into still more sublime realms of the insane. I had no idea digital drums could sound so good, so massive. Hosono did always know how to choose his collaborators. Echo de Miharu is a wonderfully nuts crossover between Koshi's chanson leanings and Hosono's deep ambient stuff. The Tale of Genji blows me away every time I listen, now -- the melodies are so slow and patient it can be hard to tell they're there. But they are, ohhh how they are. 1988 has the Marginal soundtrack which I'm still pretty new to (up on YT! It isn't all Hosono, but the other guy's tracks are great too). And then you get 1989 and Omni fuckin Sight Seeing. Comments on this thread got me pretty hyped for Omni and it *still* managed to exceed expectations. I haven't even got to the 20th Century Pops stuff from these years, there's probably a bunch of incredible stuff tucked away in there too...

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:36 (four weeks ago) link

at one point a bunch of those were going to get reissued! look:

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:50 (four weeks ago) link

oops, I Jimmed it. this is what i meant to post:

https://lightintheattic.net/products/mercuric-dance

https://lightintheattic.net/products/the-endless-talking

and so on. I think just the Monad records though.

luckily I have a copy of Coincidental Music. the others I really want. there were times when I thought I might win one from eBay at a not terrible price, alas they always get sniped at the last second.

The Endless Talking feels like one of the wildest and weirdest ideas for an album ever: like a Best Of of the same year it came out in, and the one before; but deconstructed/remade into something new and unlike anything else in Hosono's discography -- as dark and nightmarish as Hosono gets

it's genuinely bizarre. part of the reason I want a reissue is because sometimes they come with interviews and I'd really like to know what he was thinking with some of this. amusingly there are so many vaporwave artists who go for this unplaceable nightmare vibe using just synths and samplers but somehow Haruomi Hosono is the one who captured it better than any of them. probably before any of them were born too.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:55 (four weeks ago) link

yes, i too would love reissues of the Monad releaes for notes / insights into what he was thinking when making them. i was lucky to pick up the originals when they were still affordable but would happily replace them with reissues.

The Tale of Genji is my favourite.

Apogee & Perigee isn't a Hosono release is it? I thought it was Jun Togawa, though my favourite track, Hope is by the mighty Testpattern.

stirmonster, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:05 (four weeks ago) link

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stirmonster, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:05 (four weeks ago) link

There's two Hosono compositions on Apogee & Perigee (both sung by Jun), I don't know whether he actually plays on anything -- but surely the arrangements are 90% his own? And it must have been him picking the people involved. Who else do Jun Togawa, Miharu Koshi, and Takashi Matsumoto have in common? (Hosono as puppetmaster!)

The lack of context is bewildering, yes, and sometimes I get really curious... but other times, it can feel liberating too. When music so amazing seems to rise up out of absolutely nowhere, it makes me feel like anything is possible.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:21 (four weeks ago) link

I'll have to give that one another listen - I do think HH's production style is pretty easy to identify. when "Scandal Night" came up on Pacific Breeze 3 I could instantly tell there was Hosono involvement despite not actually knowing what the track was

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:26 (four weeks ago) link

Coincidental Music is a huge favorite too. I'm not sure any other Hosono record has quite so many catchy things in one place. And even though everything on there was commissioned, and spans four years, I find it goes down real smooth as a start-to-finish listen. I guess when your creative spirit is burning as bright as Hosono's was at the time, it doesn't matter what you're doing stylistically, everything you do will sound of a piece.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:26 (four weeks ago) link

God that's weird, I could've sworn I saw the production credit for Apogee & Perigee go to Hosono, but now that I actually look it up again, I'm wrong, it's Kazusuke Obi (who was apparently involved with EVERYTHING YMO-family from BGM on to Wild and Moody... after which he crossed over into the VGM world and was involved with, for example, the soundtrack to Super Marip Brothers 3?! Who is this guy?!

Apogee & Perigee seems to be shrouded in even more mystery than most YMO-adjacent stuff. Discogs notes that the releases had no songwriting credits until some many-decades-later reissue identified *some* of them. So it could still be that Hosono did arrangements for everything but Queen Glacier. It sounds to me exactly like a sister record to Parallelisme, just poppier.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:38 (four weeks ago) link

Oh yeah, there it is!

https://galapagos-rec0rds.com/products/apogee-perigee-アポジー-ペリジー-超時空コロダスタン旅行記?variant=33050887553127

Other Japanese-language sites/blogs credit Hosono as producer too, and mention he drafted the storyline.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:53 (four weeks ago) link

I don't think that link came out right. Here's the English-language blurb on that site:

"Nikka Whisky's commercial project by YEN all-star lineup including Yuji Miyake, Test Pattern, Yoichiro Yoshikawa, Miharu Koshi, Jun Togawa, under Haruomi Hosono's production. A gorgeous techno-pop album consisting of an A-side incorporated into a story that goes to the moon. It is a total conceptual album including inserts."

And "細野晴臣 プロデュース" comes up a lot. Seems only Discogs has Obi credited with the production.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:55 (four weeks ago) link

‘Translation changes the original meaning’: how 70s psych rockers Happy End ended the ‘Japanese rock controversy’

In 1969, Takasshi Matsumoto and Haruomi Hosono opted to defy rock trends by singing in Japanese, not English – paving the way for ‘city pop’ and J-pop

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:17 (three weeks ago) link

Thanks! Great detail about Hosono jotting down new band names on his commute. Somewhere I read/watched Hosono say that breaking up bands is a hobby of his.

And: "...and at 76 he continues to create, saying he’s hoping to start work on a new solo collection soon." Good news, but hasn't he been saying he's about to start work on a new solo collection for years now? Hosono, you magical old man, write us some new songs dammit!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:33 (three weeks ago) link

three weeks pass...

Man, I'm seriously digging Eating Pleasure, the 1980 Sandii (and Makoto Kubota) record produced by Hosono. It's got five Hosono originals and a version of Drip Dry Eyes that predates Neuromantic. On first however many listens it sounded like there was too much bland of-the-era pop between the summits of Hosono's Idol Era and Zoot Kook. I am here to tell you this is NOT TRUE. They wove the atmosphere real thick on this one. A much weirder and vibey-er record than it pretends to be!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:57 (four days ago) link

It's one of those sneaky actually-it's-YMO albums, with YT on drums and Sakamoto credited with keyboards, Matsutake on computer...

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:06 (four days ago) link

that Drip Dry Eyes is so smooth. I didn't realize it predated Takahashi's own.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:10 (four days ago) link

surprised it hasn't been repressed yet. admittedly I haven't heard the whole thing but I will have to rectify that soon.

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:25 (four days ago) link

Its a real favourite of mine. I managed to pick up a cheap copy of the 2nd edition in Tokyo about 10 years ago.

mmmm, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:48 (four days ago) link

okay I've got it on now, definitely wilder than I was expecting. "Alive" is such a cool song

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:22 (four days ago) link

Artists with similar names that you get mixed up

Sandii & the Sunsetz
Sheena & the Rokkets

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 22:48 (four days ago) link

so good. 'zoot kook' still sounds like it was beamed in from the future.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 23:25 (four days ago) link

Zoot Kook feels like it launched a whole genre -- Yoko Kanno did a lot more good work within it in the '00s (and specifically sought out Chris Mosdell to help). Alive is wonderful.

mmmm, that's awesome -- not the greatest cover art, but I'm all for great albums in unassuming sleeves.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:41 (three days ago) link

the thing about the cover art is it just looks like all those 50s and 60 exotica albums with a hot girl on the sleeve. its not like say the Miharu Koshi albums which hint at the oddness of the music. wonder how many people bought it for that reason, put it on and were like what the hell am I listening to.

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:05 (three days ago) link

zoot kook: song of the week

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:53 (three days ago) link

i haven't heard Yoko Kanno - will be checking that out today i hope

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:54 (three days ago) link

damn, there's too much music. artists should only release one album, preferably just one song

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:55 (three days ago) link


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