― Rich Handel, Friday, 5 December 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
― webcrack (music=crack), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Rich Handel, Friday, 5 December 2003 16:47 (twenty years ago) link
Who are Chavez?
― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Rich Handel, Friday, 5 December 2003 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 5 December 2003 17:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Rich Handel, Friday, 5 December 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link
I somehow missed out on the "Math rock" and "Prog metal" part of the question. Bleh.
I'm tempted to give big search-props to the following then: The Flying Luttenbachers (expect some jazz too, particularly on earlier stuff), Zeni Geva, Kukl, Die Kreuzen, Psychotic Waltz (early is progmetal, then they went a bit more psychy with later albums), Of course, it's hard to draw the line between prog and math rock, hehe. I mean, obviously the number 1 band to check out is Magma! Yay!Hrmm, there were several bands I was going to mention that I've completely forgotten on the wayside, so I might as well just stop, as these big lists tend to boil down into a big mush.
Anyyyways, for something more traditional metal: Zero Hour's "Towers of Avarice" (steer clear of the earlier album though)Ark's "Burn the sun" (if you don't mind a LOT of 80s hardrockisms, particularly in the vocals)
I've heard good things about a band called Loincloth too. They have a demo out, but I haven't had the chance to hear it. With a name like that it's gotta be fun, or at least annoying as hell.
― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 5 December 2003 17:25 (twenty years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 5 December 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Clarke B., Friday, 5 December 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Friday, 5 December 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Friday, 5 December 2003 21:47 (twenty years ago) link
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Friday, 5 December 2003 21:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 5 December 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 5 December 2003 21:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Cacaman Flores, Friday, 5 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link
Extol are indeed Christian, in fact, one of them seems to be the son of a famous Norwegian Christian songwriter (and what-not; I'm not quite sure what the guy is, my father recognized the name)They have a slight melodic twinge to them that isn't too common for these overtechnical deathbunbands, so that might be a good thing for some.
Oh, and on the search side: Anacrusis - Manic Impressions and Screams & Whispers. The former even has a cover of "I love the world"! Yay!!Also: Coroner! Everything! Particularly "No More Color" and "Manic Impressions"Wait, two manic impressions?Euhhh... ahh, the Coroner album is called "Mental Vortex"!
We need to get one of these bands to record Sonny Rollins' Airegin
― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Friday, 5 December 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Friday, 5 December 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
I think it's because they made the mistake of collaborating with Mike Patton, but to be honest, Calculating Infinity just seems like...well, like they're doing calculations in their heads instead of asking the crucial question, "How can we rock the fucking ceiling off this place?"
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 5 December 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
nobody has mentioned philly band dyssrythmia(i probably spelled that wrong). i don't really care for the album, too noodly or zappa-ish for me, but they belong on this thread.
― scott seward, Friday, 5 December 2003 22:31 (twenty years ago) link
Death "Individual Thought Patterns" (their most interesting and best one)Pestilence "Testimony Of The Ancients" (less weirdness-for-the-sake-of-it than "Spheres" and better songs = their best)
I remember I used to like Rhadamantys and Hybernoid circa 1993 but I don't have any of their albums anymore.
― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 5 December 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link
Whoever recomended 'We Are The Romans' by Botch is talking sense. You should also check out Converge, Envy, Isis and Neurosis in that style. I guess you could say they all have elements of math and/or progressive metal/hardcore.
And don't forget the mind-boggling obvious: Tool.
― Stupid (Stupid), Friday, 5 December 2003 23:29 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Friday, 5 December 2003 23:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 6 December 2003 00:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 6 December 2003 00:57 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Saturday, 6 December 2003 03:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Rich Handel, Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
Have you even HEARD A Sun That Never Sets?
― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:56 (twenty years ago) link
Both bands would be the same genre, whatever that is, but I think they have taken different paths, especially in arranging out the rhythms.
Neurosis is space age neolithic music, they sound futuristic and very old at the same time.
I'll have to investigate this Cult of Luna.
― earlnash, Saturday, 6 December 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link
If anyone ever re-makes 2001: A Space Odyssey, Neurosis should do the soundtrack.
― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 6 December 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 6 December 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Rich Handel, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:37 (twenty years ago) link
I didn't even know Candiria were still around, but they either just played or are just about to play NYC. I don't care, though.
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
Mei played me Gorguts the other day and I was very taken with it, I'm getting me some of that
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link
When is the new Isis due?
― Randall, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Don Allred, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 06:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Rosenberg (reed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
I've been listening to the new Necrophagist disc quite a bit, because I'm gonna review it for the Cleveland Scene, and this means I've also been listening to Pestilence's Testimony Of The Ancients and Death's Individual Thought Patterns a lot, too. Both of those are better than the Necrophagist disc.
I went looking for Cynic's Focus at the record store today, but couldn't find it. They did have both albums by Gordian Knot, the bassist's new band, though. Are those any good? Lots of 70s prog folks (Bill Bruford, Tony Levin, some others) on 'em.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
I need to get that Gorguts twofer myself, those two albums are amongst my favorites of early 90s brutal dumbass-metal. The new Necrophagist is getting a ludicrous amount of hype... How is it compared to earlier material? I always found Necrophagist to be pretty boring, so I hadn't really considered the possibility that this one might be worth checking out.
Obscura's still one of the be-all end-all metal albums, to me.
I just noticed that I accidentally dissed Ripping Corpse in my old post there. Ripping Corpse is GREAT! Pre-Dim Mak dumb brutal death with that nice techish fling to it that makes the rabbits wiggle their noses and ears. Vomiting Corpses on the other hand...
Despite not really liking them myself, I'll add another search: Axis Of Perdition. Takes that whole "cyber-black metal" trend of the late 90s into really brutal territory. Think Emperor turned into slightly rusty, but nonetheless precise and smelly, spaceships of mass debunnification. Not to be mistaken for the rather great Axis Of Advance and their Voivod-goes-black metal schtick.Anaal Nathrakh might deserve a mention while we're in this territory.
Some might dig on Misanthrope too.... Lots of fancy doodiddling in a black metal framework that nonetheless recalls Iron Maiden far, far too much. Their fanbase doesn't seem too big, and I can't count myself as part of it either, but those that get into it seem to all get rabid.
For those of you more into the ol' thrash thing (mainly the moshy Anthrax side) Forced Entry's Uncertain Future's worth mentioning. Maybe not quite as proggy as this thread might be for, but what the hey... I need to just step away from this thread and pretend it never appeared, as I fear I'll come back to it every 6 months for the rest of my life (eventually to say that metal suxxx and u shuld all listn 2 SHAKTI instddd dudz rulz like fuzen but acustik!)yeah, sleep... good... night
― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ralphie, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Metalion, Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― darin (darin), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― darin (darin), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
The most recent Flying Luttenbachers disc, The Void, is their most guitar-heavy in awhile. And now Mick Barr's joined the band! He'll be with 'em whenever they tour the US, and he'll be on the next CD, whenever that comes out. Weasel Walter + Mick Barr = my head exploding.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link
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― metalion, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― - (smile), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link
has anyone heard the album "Five Minutes" by Bowl Ethereal? it was offered free if you signed up for their email list a year or two ago...it's the Honor Role/Breadwinner/Loincloth dude but anyway it's kind of brilliant, this incredibly complex, knotty math metal but there's five songs of exactly (to the second) 1 minute each.
math metal is kind of made for 1 minute songs
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 February 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
Good thread. I haven't listened to much of this stuff in years. Need to catch up.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 13 February 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
Not heard it m@tt but id like to
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 13 February 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
Bowl Ethereal (kept misreading it as Bowel) are pretty good. As much as I like a good wallow in riffs it's refreshing to hear that kind of thing being done with such brevity
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 13 February 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT8mSZBJzJA
― MaresNest, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link
Confessor rules hope that's ok with you
― On this timescale, all matter is liquid. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 June 2016 09:23 (seven years ago) link
In fact I kinda wonder if Meshuggah were fans of Condemned, the guitars-as-percussives, proggy weird time signature thing wasn't exactly common at the time.
― On this timescale, all matter is liquid. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 June 2016 09:24 (seven years ago) link
My wife has started listening to music again. After being in a long phase of "just whatever's on the radio", she has emerged as a fan of the more progressive and melodic strains of metal. Mostly a lot of progressive metalcore - stuff like Northlane and Erra.
Today she asked me to find something similar to Ne Obliviscaris, so I guess progressive metal with a violin or other strings. Any thoughts?
Also, she's interested in newer metal and can always suss out when I try to slip her some album I thought was cool for a month 15 years ago or something.
― ☮️ (peace, man), Saturday, 29 February 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link
I know I've pushed them in a couple places, but maybe the last Caligula's Horse album? Very melodic, melancholic prog metal with some djenty bits.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Sunday, 1 March 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link
Totally different from most of these bands but I can't quite fit them on the Power Metal thread: Fate's Warning. Been listening to Awaken The Guardian and I like some songs a lot so far. I'm not sure it goes especially far in any direction, mostly sounds like 80s metal to me before I can think of a subgenre. There was a brilliant prog list on youtube years ago that featured their album No Exit, so maybe that is their prog highlight?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 26 November 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
"Guardian" is an absolutely stunning song, the rest I'm still chewing on but that song is a justified classic.
Love the shonky cover art of their first album.https://www.discogs.com/Fates-Warning-Night-On-Br%C3%B6cken/master/150629
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 December 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link
"Karen's been asleep forever I know she hears meShe has so much to say, the machine sparksHer eggshell mind a tear streams from her faceInto my hand, to my heart"
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 December 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
It's a fun album. Anyone got Fate's Warning experiences?
Mike Portnoy in the sleeve notes regards them as the first true prog metal band.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
Really enjoying Watchtower's Control And Resistance. Feels more substantially prog than a lot of bands tagged as prog metal. Crazy vocals are great.
A shame they didn't do more stuff. Anyone like the reunion stuff? Are there any related bands worth checking out? One of them is called Retarded Elf.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link
Confessor seems promising but I don't think there's an original member connection there
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link
Confessor are GREAT.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 16 April 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link
Seems like Watchtower vocalist Alan Tecchio has been in the most bands of all the members
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 16 April 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link
I might have a look at his other bands someday, I really like him and the way he says "reason" as "REASAHAAAWWWN". Sleeve notes say he was tiring of the super high vocals so maybe he sings very differently in other bands.
My common complaint about prog metal and modern prog in general is that they don't bring much prog but Watchtower really deserve the label
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link
Tecchio is back with Watchtower, wonder what his voice sounds like now?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 March 2023 00:19 (one year ago) link