Iced Earth: Opinions

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I love metal. But not Iced Earth.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Monday, 21 July 2003 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I like Iron Maiden and Rush, but not Helloween and Voivod. Should I listen to these guys? I've noticed their covers are cool. What's a good album to start with?

tangible personal property, Thursday, 24 February 2005 04:31 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I'd recommend buying their compilation, honestly... as for studio albums, Something Wicked THis Way Comes and The Dark Saga do it for me...

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice album covers. Bad music.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha, I used to love this band. I think I still might. Good old-fashioned Maiden-meets-Master of Puppets thrash with cheesy horror movie/D&D/comic book themes. No interest in their recent records, but Burnt Offerings and Night of the Stormrider are good.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Richard Christy is the best thing to happen to Howard Stern in like 5 years.

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

What does Richard Christy have to do with Howard Stern?!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, he's on the show pretty much everyday for starters.

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I had no idea (probably because I don't actually listen to HS). This is the former drummer for Death we're talking about, right?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

The new Iced Earth DVD is ghastly.

ng, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The new Iced Earth DVD is amazing.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Scott, are you serious? I love the Gettysburg song cycle, but everything that goes with it suXor. Did you watch the tour of the battlefield yet?

ng, Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

The tour is great! Okay, I could only get thru, like 10 minutes of the tour. And I know what you mean by "ghastly". I guess i was just in the right silly mood for it. I mean, it IS kinda impressive. All those flags waving and pictures of generals. They are nuts. The same day that I got that in the mail i also got the new Molly Hatchet album and it came with an ACTUAL confederate flag. A lttle one with one of those plastic bases that you can stick on your dashboard. And all the tour dates on the back of the CD are in Germany...hmmmm... I am digging the new Demons & Wizards. That has some great stuff on it.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

So does Howard Stern discuss Richard Christy's sick chops?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

They discuss metal sometimes, but normally Richard is brought it for his porn expertise. He's quite a multi-talent, as he also has sick chops at prank phonecalls.

billstevejim, Friday, 29 April 2005 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

'burning times' is a scorcher of a song

i like the band every once in a while

Charlie Howard, Monday, 16 July 2007 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

I know these d00ds have kinda sunken into mediocrity in recent years but they're supposed to be fun live and apparently they're playing the "Wicked" trilogy from SWTWC ("Prophecy", "Birth of the Wicked", "Coming Curse") on this tour so....i'm kinda stoked. plus Stu Block is a dope vocalist even if he's kinda imitating Matt Barlow in this band (and sounds more like himself in Into Eternity).

Jon Schaffer is a doofus though.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 06:11 (three years ago) link

dear Christ, the versions of the trilogy they did with Ripper are fucking TERRIBLE:

why the hell did they lower the key, he can hit higher notes than Barlow

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 06:15 (three years ago) link

fuck it, I'll defend these guys. p much haven't put out anything great in years, but even at their most self-plagiarizing they were often fun. Barlow kinda elevated em a bit. Ripper Owens era was terrible.

Horror Show is flawed but "Wolf", "Damien" and "Dracula" are fun.

last two w/ Stu Block kinda middling, his first (Dystopia) wasn't a classic but it was good!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 March 2018 22:03 (three years ago) link

Weird I just listened to these guys for the first time since high school, just to see how it sounded now. Sure it's ridiculous music but Burnt Offerings and the Spawn one (lol) have really catchy hooks and cool riffs. Every now and then I'll click on the metal thread and check out some retro thrash thing on Bandcamp, and it's inevitably not as good? But I don't actually listen to metal beyond my 5 or so favorite albums from high school, so who cares what I think.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 12 March 2018 22:10 (three years ago) link

me and the band

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 March 2018 23:29 (three years ago) link

love that so much

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 17 March 2018 23:49 (three years ago) link

yea Jon screamed "Kreatorrrr" at me. nice dude.

Stu Block is amazing. i could hear him during soundcheck a half a block away

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:01 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

finally dug into the "Jon Schaffer's Purgatory" EP. it's fun, ignorant-assed heavy metal that sounds lyrically like it was written by 12 year olds doing a book report on horror films.

in other words, good mindless fun.

the weirdest thing - you know how sometimes there's this vocalist everybody clowns for being shit, then years later, he resurfaces, and suddenly he's improved a shit-ton?

Yeah, that is...not the case with Gene Adam.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:53 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

As I walk through the blackened forest
Thoughts of hate and anger fill my soul
The charred remains of the holy rollers
Scream repentance though it's far too late

I fight back the laughter at what I see
The suffering healers false destined prophecy

He didn't think yesterday of the end of his life
The brainwashed fools born again of a thousand lies

lolllllll, i love this cheesy-assed band

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 December 2020 01:59 (one year ago) link

debut album just reissued/remixed/remastered.

for a remix, it doesn't sound toooo terribly different. was hoping maybe they mixed Gene Adam's voice with Mario Lanza or something. the guitars are still crunchy but tbh I always liked the original production.

i just love this cheesy-assed band and I won't apologize for it. Jon Schaffer's pretentiousness almost improves things cos you can't help but laugh at how cornball he is - yr a dude who learned how to play gallop patterns real well, nobody cares about your IRL opinions about commerce and government.

some real dire shit in the catalog. the Ripper albums were a huge wtf. never seen a guy with such a good voice completely suck everything interesting out of a band with a solid track record, TWICE.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 December 2020 23:43 (one year ago) link

seriously tho Gene is the worst singer ever, he makes Kai Hansen sound like Andrea Bocelli

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 December 2020 23:43 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...
three months pass...


Speaking of, I meant to bump this thread last month when I saw that a, presumably very disappointed, former Iced Earth fan dumped damn near the band's entire catalog on CD at a local used shop.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:39 (nine months ago) link

Closing words of the proceedings:

Judge: Mr. Schaffer, good luck. We will see you soon.

Schaffer: Thank you, your honor.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) April 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:42 (nine months ago) link

From an ILX vet

In hindsight Iced Earth's problematic politics probably should've been obvious when Matt Barlow left to join the DHS and they replaced him with right-wing idiot Tim "Ripper" Owens. Also Schaffer's side project about how the Federal Reserve is evil.

— Jeff Treppel (@JeffTreppel) April 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:50 (nine months ago) link

Hard to maintain a “snitches get stitches” ethos when you’ve got a thin blue line full back tattoo.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:51 (nine months ago) link

He's doing this in hopes that prosecutors will recommended a lesser sentence for the crimes he committed.

Here is the "information" the govt submitted detailing the crimes he's pleaded guilty to

— Ken Bensinger (@kenbensinger) April 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 April 2021 17:20 (nine months ago) link

Anyway Jeff's working on a story so sharing this out:

If anyone here knows any former members of Iced Earth, associates of Jon Schaffer, Ripper Owens, or Matt Barlow, or former tourmates who would be willing to go on the record, please DM me (and feel free to retweet).

— Jeff Treppel (@JeffTreppel) April 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 April 2021 18:18 (nine months ago) link

I want to know how the iced earth face tattoo guy feels

StanM, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:00 (nine months ago) link

nevermind, misremembered. it was earth crisis

StanM, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:02 (nine months ago) link

seven months pass...

Man, if this is the dude that ends up rolling and taking down a bigger name...

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 November 2021 14:53 (two months ago) link

can't wait to be at a metal show in the future, only to see familiar rhythm guitarist "Lon Snyder" on stage

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 November 2021 16:39 (two months ago) link

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