Americanisms that will never, ever cross over into the UK

"So co on the rocks"!

I have used it, but I'm married to a yank, so I probably don't count.

xpost to douchebag!

I think *the stereotype of* Kelly Osbourne might have something to say about that.

'Erbs
Flat
Sneakers
Rush Limbaugh

ectect

"So cos for everyone!!" argh argh (Tom said there had been a thread on this already but those adverts STILL annoy the bejaysus out of me).

oh god not the soco thing

"Flat"

Do you mean like an apartment? Because that's your -ism.

'Erbs
Flat
Sneakers
Rush Limbaugh

^^wtf are the first two??

brittishes will never shralp

ever

vegetables

dentists </stereotype>

You guys drop the H on herbs, whereas we pronounce it, unless we're lovable cockney chimney sweeps.

oh

ALRIGHT ALREADY

Possibilities:

(a) the two syllables of time some Americans save by not saying "Southern Comfort" will translate into increased economic productivity, eventually allowing us to crush the British economy

(b) the relative difficulty of not saying "SoCo" when drunk will cause British people to forgo the night's last drink, causing them to be marginally more productive at work the next day, eventually allowing the UK to crush the American economy

(c) nothing will happen and nobody will care

P.S. dropping the H in herb has allowed us to develop a very important pronounced-H form, used to refer to teenagers in the 1980s New York area who are lame and don't know enough about rap music

you guys have NO WORD FOR THAT, i don't know how you get through the day

waht?

The main problem with "SoCo" in the UK is that its plural "SoCos" contains the British spelling of the shortened form of "because," so it looks like "so-cuz."

very important pronounced-H form, used to refer to teenagers in the 1980s New York area who are lame and don't know enough about rap music

I don't know this fuckin' word!

G-kit, what has upset you so?

It's pretty easy to avoid pluralizing a liquid, though.

erb halpert?

The "Herb" thing has to do with a TV show, I think? My ex from Rockland County knew it, but I didn't, and I'm pretty darn sure it was never in use in my particular school community.

I'm not sure that people in the UK drink enough Southern Comfort to be bothered about an abbreviation for it.

to be pissed at someone rather than pissed off at someone: the British resisted that for decades, but now I've heard teenagers say it.

The correct plural of SoCo would be SosCo

Yes, 'erbs will never catch on. Neither will pronouncing Aunt as Awhhhhhhhhnt.

... or however you spell it

Herb = like the short version of a guy named Herbert = 80s-era NYC hip-hop slang for a lame person who would have a name like Herbert = so far as I can tell, used largely by white and Jewish middle-class teenagers from the Upper West Side and Brooklyn. (Or anyway these are the only types of people I encounter who might still say "herb" or know what it means.)

I don't know this fuckin' word!

Have you killfiled Ethan and deej?

(Um, I didn't actually know about it until reading ILX and, like, Tom Breihan.)

I can see douchebag taking off tho

But douchebag has been around forever without taking off. It just sounds so... American!

"psyched"

"cheeseburger deluxe"

"delicious pizza"

I think I've heard UK people say "psyched". Or at least written it on the Internet.

Saying "the longest time" for "a long time"

Herbert is used as an insult in the UK.

I don't think g-kit was upset, I think he was giving an example of an Americanism.

Druthers. Don't think I've ever heard a British person say druthers.

Do you mean like an apartment? Because that's your -ism

Since flat-as-apartment is British, perhaps he means "horizontal"? Or "without bumps"? "A deflated tire?"

xpost But "druthers" sounds so British!

to be pissed at someone rather than pissed off at someone: the British resisted that for decades, but now I've heard teenagers say it.

"pissed off at"? "pissed off with", surely?

ANYWAY.

"write me". that'll never catch on.

xpost oh yes, i meant "flat" as in "flat tyre".

onimo otm, sry

Druthers. Don't think I've ever heard a British person say druthers.

OTM. I remember the first time I heard someone say this!

"For sure".

Americans don't really say soco, do they? Do you? Guys?

There are plenty of brand name things I can think of. I remember having a great argument in a pub in Dublin because an American woman I knew was complaining about not being able to order a seven and seven, until it turned out to be some drink based on brand names that the barman was in fact perfectly capable of making.

Channel four has started saying "season finale" about its own, home-produced programmes now.

"For sure".

Souness/Penis

Unfortunately "on the weekend" is beginning to creep in over here

"do the math"

OH WE HAD HERB IN BOSTON TOO GUYS

<i>"do the math"</i>

"World's Champion"

Milquetoast. See this often enough in American journalism. Never see it in Britain. Actually I don't even know what it means exactly.

Yes, people say SoCo, get over it. You people say "pressies" and "soz," you have no business being amazed by our shortenings.

Most Americans don't say "druthers" in any kind of organic way -- older rural people might say it for real, but most everyone else is using it as a knowingly folksy handed-down expression.

Americans say "over the weekend."

Now that Herb has been illuminated, I recognize it. But from Nabisco's definiton I had no clue what he was talking about. I thought maybe he meant some slur against Jews.

I've never said SoCo in reference to a drink.

i use all three, but 'on' seems the wrong-est

I don't remember starting this thread or any of my posts on it (/early_onset_alzheimers)

We had "Commencement" at Trinity College Dublin. Also OED on this:

a1387 J. Trevisa tr. R. Higden Polychron. (St. John's Cambr.) (1876) VI. 259 By a statute of the universite of Oxenford‥he schal not spende at his comencement passynge þre þowsand of grootes turonens.
1587 W. Harrison Descr. Eng. (1877) ii. iii. i. 75 In Oxford this solemnitie is called an Act, but in Cambridge they vse the French word Commensement.
1593 T. Nashe Strange Newes 74 Shewe mee the Vniuersities hand and seale that thou art a Doctour sealed and deliuered in the presence of a whole Commensement.
1689 London Gaz. No. 2496/2 (Cambridge) An extraordinary Commencement being held on this signal Occasion, for conferring Degrees on persons of Worth in all Faculties.
1714 J. Ayliffe Antient & Present State Univ. Oxf. II. iii. i. 131 There is a general Commencement once every Year in all the Faculties of Learning, which is called the Act at Oxford, and the Commencement at Cambridge.
1858 D. Masson Life Milton I. 163 Three days before the close of the academic year‥there was held at Cambridge the great public ceremony of the ‘Commencement’.
1890 Academy 5 July 12/2 Dublin University‥The recipients of honorary degrees at the commencement are, etc.

"all that good stuff"

"oftentimes"

"different than"

I'm surpised at the number of baseball/American football expressions that have crossed over given that the vast majority of British people have no clue as to the rules of these games. I used "left field" myself in an email today and yet I have no idea why it means what it does.

ROBERT FROST'S poem LODGED

The rain to the wind said,
'You push and I'll pelt.'
They so smote the garden bed
That the flowers actually knelt,
And lay lodged - though not dead.
I know how the flowers felt.

"Lodged" -- to be flattened by wind and rain -- is not a UK usage (via sistrah becky, who encountered it in a movie last night and was startled and looked it up)

Ooh, that's a good one.

I don't think it's especially common in North America either?

Black Friday, that'll never cross over, we don't even have Thanksgiving

Indeed, a lot of the stuff mentioned itt has crossed over - I overheard someone talking about their sister's baby shower last week.

fucksgiving

as in zero fuckgiving

the one true holiday imo

the one true holiday imo

'Fratboy' doesn't have any equivalent. Or 'High School proms'. Or 'jock'. And for most people 'college' doesn't mean 'university'

High school proms have been here for a while now.

https://irishsheetmusicarchives.com/Sheet-Music/Sheet-Music-Image-Files/ifsl01237.jpg

LOL. Harry Lauder harms New York.

I hope it’s a better pressing than the Merced solo record from a couple years back, which was pressed off-centre & v poorly mastered. Always loved t

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They're a funny bunch, aren't they?

*ROBERT FROST'S poem LODGED*

The rain to the wind said,
'You push and I'll pelt.'
They so smote the garden bed
That the flowers actually knelt,
And lay lodged - though not dead.
I know how the flowers felt.

"Lodged" -- to be flattened by wind and rain -- is not a UK usage (via sistrah becky, who encountered it in a movie last night and was startled and looked it up)

I don't think it's especially common in North America either?

Whoops, ignore 1st para, a vestigial orphan

north american cropfarmers absent from the thread, ilxor bubblemind strikes again

My children say line instead of queue; I've heard them say boardwalk instead of pier; they rarely use the perfect tense. Unless I want to do the annoying parent thing I've given up mentioning it.

Child (looking in cupboard): "Do we have ketchup?"
Annoying parent: "Yes"
C: "I can't see it"
AP: "That's because we haven't got any at the moment, but generally we do have it. I'm sorry, your meaning was unclear to me"

As someone who works in the sector: UK farmers do say lodged, it’s p common to hear about eg wheat lodging

blimey and indeed cor

what's this about ketchup?

Yeah I don’t see what’s wrong with the ketchup thing?

fetter has just triggered literally everyone on ilx including me, kudos

i believe the correct queen's english would be 'hath we red sauce, papa?'

Is he saying that have should only be used meaning to consume so yes we consume ketchup but we are not currently in possession of it? Jesus. Anyway I’m tired of people pointing out when I say things weirdly. I’m just going to talk even more American from now on.

having (owning) ketchup is where i am a viking fyi

have we ketchupped, daddy?

lmao this phone trying to autocorrect me, don’t even try

are we having catsup ?

'Has we gots catsup' surely?

annoying parent is just incorrect in that example

In my day, annoying parents would say that annoying children like my former self should never say "got" and should always use formulations like "do we have" instead

do we have ketchup?
do we put it on pizza?
do you eat meat?
do we go to church?

hath we red sauce, papa?

how high's the ketchup mama?

i can has ketchup?

Any UK ILXors using "gotten" as the past participle of "got" yet? That's historically been distinctly American English.

how high's the ketchup mama?

0.9144 meters high and rising

(xp) Not since the 16th century.

not a uk ilxor, but gotten is valid

dont ask me how or why the specific usage vs "got"

also football talk, id say gotten is in there

I've found myself saying 'gotten' a lot. I hear 'douchebag' a lot too

everyone in my office says 'skedule' and that affects me more than it should

I agree, 'skedge' is vastly preferable.

Did 'Git-R-Done' ever cross over into UK parlance? Never too late imo.