Mad magazine C/D

what's viz ipso? I also read cracked but it kinda sucked. This is weird b/c I saw an issue of Mad up at the front counter of 711 today and I thought that was weird, having not seen one in forever.

I loved it when I was little - would stay up past my bedtime, lying on the floor by my bedroom door and reading by the hallway light. But, as has been stated above, it has no relevance now whatsoever.

I loved Duck Edwing best.

Anyway, it's hard to enjoy after the repeated shellacings at the hands of The Simpsons. I guess you could say the satirical torch has been passed, huh?

Very crass and bawdy but not in a good way.

xpost

xpost: Viz is my favorite comic ever! goldfish boy! FELIX AND HIS AMAZING UNDERPANTS!Drunk Bakers!!!

xxpost: there was a spy vs spy computer game as well. terrible.

Viz Comic - British institution. Based more on DC Thompson-type titles (Beano, Dandy etc) than TV parody, although for several years c-list celebrities have made appearances in strips where they have unlikely adventures (didn't Esther Rantzen originally own the vibrating arse-faced mountain goats?). I've been buying it since #23 (mid-80s), and it's only had about five new jokes since. THIS IS A GOOD THING.

some lovely pre-mad paul coker illustrations posted here:

http://allthingsger.blogspot.com/2008/10/bay-of-gigs-monday-cartoon-day.html

Nice, I've heard about Help! but seen little from it.

John Landis working on a biopic of Bill Gaines.

Every time I need to feel better in an implacable way I always check out his bio, The Mad World of William M. Gaines, from the library. I find it so inspiring. Him & Roald Dahl were wine buddies!

William Gaines favorite movie was "Inherit the Wind." He said he could relate to it.

Mentioned on the rolling obit thread but RIP John Severin:

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/02/14/rip-john-severin/

Aww. Dude was an awesome draftsman and always game for anything. And he'd been doing it forever! I was always surprised in recent years when I saw new stuff of his. These guys who practically die at their drawing boards are such an inspiration to find something you love doing until the day you bow out.

I thought he was immortal. spent 60+ years working in comics.

Some Severin greatness here:

http://www.ha.com/common/search_results.php?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles&Ne=1058&N=790+231+1067&Ntt=john+severin

This is a great interview from '99. Nice to see Comics Journal post it, if only because it means I don't have to dig out those issues.

http://www.tcj.com/the-john-severin-interview-parts-i-ii/

http://mobile.avclub.com/articles/get-involved-internet-help-bring-the-story-of-mad,91785/?mobile=true

An important Kickstarter!

Director Alan Bernstein hopes to change that with When We Went Mad! A Documentary Of Ecch-ic Proportions, a film chronicling the magazine’s development through the decades. But he needs your help! Bernstein is looking to raise $50,000 on Kickstarter to complete his film, and is a little over halfway past his goal, with nine days remaining. Considering the magazine’s impact and legacy, it’s shocking that a film like this doesn’t already exist, but you now have an opportunity to help correct that oversight.

I can still recall the first time I read a Mad Magazine. It was in Reno, NV, on a summer vacation car trip with my parents in 1964. A few moths later I discovered some paperbacks that reprinted the first several years of Mad from the mid-fifties. I still think that Mad's golden age was before my time, as captured in those paperbacks. Every panel was crammed with background visual jokes.

does everything need a fucken documentary now?

everything that's exploitable from boomer era, yes WGW

Grady Hendrix on the movie parodies:

http://filmcomment.com/article/mad-magazine-movie-parodies

shall be going to see this when i'm in NYC:

http://www.societyillustrators.org/The-Museum/2013/Harvey-Kurtzman/The-Art-of-Harvey-Kurtzman.aspx

Nice article

yeah great piece. last paragraph is extra lols

The magazine once received a letter from Lucasfilm’s legal department after their Empire Strikes Back parody, demanding that they recall all printed copies of the issue and destroy them. MAD replied by sending a copy of another letter they had received the previous month—from George Lucas, offering to buy the original artwork for the Empire parody and comparing Mort Drucker to Leonardo Da Vinci and the parody’s writer, Dick De Bartolo, to Mark Twain. They never heard from Lucasfilm’s legal department again.

so, MAD gets lots of love.

for a reason i can no longer recall when young, i used to get CRACKED on a regular basis - which being UK based is really weird.

my mountain of CRACKED mags has long since gone missing .. which i often regret dearly.

should i waste time/money/energy on this regret, or, would i take one look at an old copy and realise the errors of my ways ..

CRACKED had gd distribution in the UK for years, for some reason

CRACKED also managed to secure former MAD/EC artist John Severin and, near the end of his life, Don Martin - but on the whole their contributors were def second (or third) division compared to the likes of Mort Drucker

so mark e i wld say that it's prob best not to spoil a happy childhood memory (also, I suspect that back issues these days are not that cheap - don't see them that often in the UK)

yeah .. i know that stuff is ££ now - hence my concern re tracking some old copies down.
weirdly i did wonder re don martin ..
i thought i had seen his stuff in CRACKED but given previous posts re him and MAD etc, thought this was a false memory ..
used to have some DM books as well.
he was such a massive talent ..

for some reason I thought CRACKED grab Sergio Aragones at one point too

but yeah they were always 2nd-tier

us brits always love the underdog ..

p sure aragones never worked for CRACKED

mark, if you like don martin it's worth hunting round for this MASSIVE complete box set of all his MAD magazine work (doesn't include the original paperback material as that's still owned by the Martin estate) - i picked up my copy in a London remainder shop for well under £30 (and then had to lug it all the way back to glasgow!), and i'm sure there are copies to be had online - it's a stunner

http://www.comicsbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/don.jpg

ah yeah a friend has that. it's amazing to thumb through.

I got a remainder from The Strand, and they shipped it to my house for whatever their flat fee is - $4.50 or something. It's amazing.

It sad, he was a publishor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxoEpVDGvPE

RIP Mort Drucker

There is a devastating satirical piece in MAD, it is devastating pic.twitter.com/qpFkicJBxu

— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) April 10, 2020

Superb caricaturist! we'll miss him.

https://www.madcoversite.com/ugoi-mort_drucker.html
love that the accompanying drucker pic is a perfect drucker-ish background character

https://www.cbr.com/mad-magazine-al-jaffee-final-fold-in/

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/final-fold-in-1591812108.jpg

https://static3.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/solved-1591812305.jpg

There is such a thing as a spoiler alert!

According to the link it's a parody of Bounty Law.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:11 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

probably upthread already but https://www.tomrichmond.com/the-tarantino-story-part-3-bounty-law/06/08/2019/

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:21 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Actually Mad is still going, sort of:

After AT&T acquired Time Warner in June 2018, Mad ended newsstand distribution, continuing in comic-book stores and via subscription, and slashed its new content in standard issues (save for end-of-year specials), with the regular magazine almost entirely utilising curated reprints with new covers, although minimal amounts of new content exist in each issue.
I only know this because I saw a newish issue at a local comic book store the other day.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

The issue after the Bounty Law one was the last issue of new material.

(#10, because in a move typically measured and thoughtful of the Nelson / Didio era, AT&T made the entire staff redundant, abandoned the Manhattan office with iirc years left on their lease, and restarted the numbering from scratch with new Burbank hires a year before being surprised that this had somehow cost money.)

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:45 (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's crazy to me that they did that ^ .. like, did they think what Mad fans wanted was a BREAK with its glorious past? Insane.

Speaking of the past, I have to say that six issues a year of reprints sounds...... pretty good?

I also have to say that a hardback copy of brand-new spoofs of classic movies like The Thing, done by Tom Richmond and Desmond Devlin sounds..... great??

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/claptrap-movie-spoofs-in-a-classic-humorous-vein/x/27777512#/

Al Jaffee is 101!!!!!

*squints to see what phrase would say if I folded it*

It was on a deep dive into Match Game during the pandemic that I discovered that Dick DeBartolo is gay and married! The news thrilled me more than I thought it would.

s quints to see what phrase would say if I folded it

I can tell you if you pay me

bcz


A FEE IS 11

I'm getting these issues now by the way and they're great. The last one was themed around dogs and pets. I'm pretty sure the fold-ins are new. They're not by Jaffee but they're terrific.

There should be a collected omnibus of fold-ins that miraculously don't cause the page to deteriorate when you fold them. The fold-ins ruined all my old MADs as a kid.

My 7yo daughter has spent the pandemic era getting more and more obsessed with Beano. Kind of wish MAD was still an ongoing thing like it was in the 80s when I read it, as I think it'd be the perfect next step in her comics voyage, and would generally fit her level of cynicism.

It's a shame, because the short-lived 'new' Mad was actually p good.

Still, there's always Viz *s

God, she'd love Viz. Not for a couple more years though!

https://i.imgur.com/CPSBCN9.jpg

Not directly Al's work but

The regular backpage ad from Sundazed for the latest issue of Ugly Things is a proper Al Jaffee fold-in salute. Little surprise as to what it folds into. pic.twitter.com/UB4EmZQN1Y

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) April 28, 2022

To me, hinged feet are the apex of visual comedy.

Who did the Rogan one (and can we see it pre-fold)?

Sorry sic I failed to capture it before my children lost it somewhere.

The latest edition is A MAD LOOK AT GREED and it is excellent. Honestly I have such a blast reading these. No ads. Just like the old days. The pages are slightly slicker. There are no Don Martin comics sadly, I guess he must have retained republishing rights.

I should emphasise there are no original pieces in these editions apart from the fold-in and the cover.

I don't know if his children managed to negotiate rights away from AT&T in the last few years somehow, but as semi-discussed upthread, not having any republishing rights was the reason he quit 35 years ago

I think Martin (and other Mad artists) retained some rights to the original paperback books they produced for Mad (or Warner Bros books), but not on the strips that appeared in the magazine itself.

in that case i don’t get it. I haven’t seen any Martin strips in the three issues I’ve gotten so far. Maybe just coincidence but he’s such a fan favourite.

Did he do strips about greed? Also remember that most of those fans are dead, and the living ones have no way of knowing that 2pp of his work from 50 years ago is in a magazine they don't know where to buy

harsh! I mean you could say that about everything in these current issues. And you’d probably be right. But if they’re making them they might as well get Martin in there imo.

is there anything else in the issues being sold on the fan favourite status of its illustrator, rather than the topic, tho



(I haven't seen them and I don't know if there are Martin strips about greed and I strongly agree in principle that Martin strips would likely be a good thing to have in themed grab-bag Mad compilations if they fit the theme. BUT)

I still recall how epochal a moment it was when Martin jumped ship for Cracked (thankfully at a time when I was regularly buying both, like any proper preadolescent of that era).

sic presumably the only people buying these are the nostalgic superfans like me so your suggestion that “fan favourite” artists would be of no account to the compilers is a strange one by my lights

Newsstand distribution is an insanely inefficient way of reaching superfans in 2022!

(who are not yet dead but tbf old enough to have forgotten that they bought the three-volume HC box set of their favourite artist in 2007)

Almost by definition it is only able to reach casual fans at best — how would a superfan even know what was being released, let alone where to find it? — and theming the collections on subject seems designed specifically to appeal to a general audience on top of nostalgists.

70th anniversary issue is out now, with much more new material than usual, including a COVID-19 gag from Sergio Aragones! Nice letter from Jordan Peele about the fake Mad cover they mocked up for Nope, and a nice letter from Weird Al about his favorite ever Al Jaffee gag. Also: a DOUBLE fold-in!

Yeah, really nice issue with a good balance between old and new stuff, although should've been more Kurtzman Kontent. In a way it would be a good one to go out on (I think this is the last time Kuper is going to be doing new Spy v Spy material?)

i would like to see sergio get a National Arts Medal

Happy 102nd Birthday, Al Jaffee!

Fold-in reveals he's only 12.

loll

vg+

Haha

:(

I'm very sad to report that the great Al Jaffee has died. He had celebrated his 102nd birthday just last month. An incredible legend. RIP to a giant of cartooning. pic.twitter.com/FzZk7wGebd

— Tom Heintjes (@Hoganmag) April 10, 2023

Hero.

And as noted on the obit thread, what a perfect followup comment to that tweet:

I will fold his obituary into thirds to reveal a totaly different, and mildly offensive, obituary.

— MP (@DefaultComics) April 10, 2023

And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

Angles, surely.

God better not have any stupid questions.

Snappy Answers To St Peter's Questions

^ already txted to an ilx0r so count it as an xp if you like