Action scenes = great. Freeway = un-fucking believable. Zion = a little too "lower decks of the Titanic" for my tastes. Morpheus = windbag. Dialogue = why did they write all everyone else's lines for Keanu as well?
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:01 (twenty years ago) link
― adam (adam), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:09 (twenty years ago) link
Overall I thought it was pretty well paced for being such a long film. It was definitely watchable, but if you have no interest in metaphysics/cyberpunk/science fiction than I can definitely see the film being a long road to get through.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:23 (twenty years ago) link
Some glaring and I MEAN GLARING plot inconsistencies concerning "The One's" powers
Seeing as how after the first two speeches, I deliberately stopped paying attention to anything but pure visual spectacle, I'm not sure what you mean. Explain.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link
I thought the Smith scene got silly pretty quickly, but whenever I know there will be CGI effects or obvious stunt doubles I always look for them and believe me they were there early on too.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:04 (twenty years ago) link
And I see... your problem with Neo is the same as mine. Maybe he just likes to kick ass. But the fight scenes, and indeed every moment of dramatic tension, was spoiled by the fact that we know the third movie has the same core cast. Kill Molly? I mean... whassername? Trinity? What a joke.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:08 (twenty years ago) link
The lesson here: never name your child Persephone. The same fate will befall her. It's a chicken-egg problem.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link
Has anyone seen the Hulk preview? Now THERE'S some shitty-looking CGI.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:26 (twenty years ago) link
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― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link
http://linux10985.dn.net/display.cgi?id=15192
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:50 (twenty years ago) link
So much promise, so little follow up.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:22 (twenty years ago) link
― tyler (tyler), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee (Leee), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee (Leee), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:29 (twenty years ago) link
P.S. Good god, yes, the Hulk movie looks to stink worse than a bag of rancid assholes.
― JS Williams (js williams), Saturday, 17 May 2003 06:27 (twenty years ago) link
The true tragic but flawed hero.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 May 2003 06:31 (twenty years ago) link
― JS Williams (js williams), Saturday, 17 May 2003 06:41 (twenty years ago) link
The Wachowskis did the one thing that they needed to do to keep me from being disappointed. The rest of it was gravy (that could have stood some editing; 'specially the rave with the really boring backing music.)
Was a tad disappointed that they turned Morpheus into an unthinking zealot, though. Had hoped for better in that respect.
And they had Neo fighting 'cause it probably would've been boring to have him talking. That said, i'd liked to have seen more crazy anti-fighting instead of the chop socky action. I'd like to have seen him turn all the bullets into flowers or butterflies or otherwise indicate that fighting him conventionally was useless.
The Superman-esque action scenes, however, were pretty ace.
Not as good as the first, but name a sequel that is.
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 17 May 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
I don't think when there's that many minorities in a movie you can cry tokenism. I don't think I've even seen so many minorities, particularly blacks, in a big Hollywood movie before. It's encouraging.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
What really disappointed me was the TOTAL LACK of contemporary super-hep technoid thump traxx to accompany all the kungfulistics. That courtyard dogpile poleaxing scene would've been much helped if it were set to Daft Punk's "Aerodynamic" or something.
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link
I'm sorry I have nothing more interesting to say at the moment.
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:10 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Mandee, Saturday, 17 May 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Mandee, Saturday, 17 May 2003 18:54 (twenty years ago) link
I didn't think the movie took its serious content seriously, but maybe that's just because I assumed it couldn't possibly.
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 May 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:03 (twenty years ago) link
2) There are multiple times where the human manefestations of the computer bits (Architect, Oracle, etc) all say to Keanu something along the lines of, 'I can see what you're thinking!' or 'Your expression tells me you're confused!'. This is so the audience can tell what Keanu should be doing as an actor.
3) Monica Bellucci is hella-hot. Rubber is a good look for her.
4) About halfway through the Architects speech someone in the audience yelled "Fast forward!!!". He was right to do it.
― jm (jtm), Sunday, 18 May 2003 05:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 18 May 2003 07:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
Maybe Neo can stop bullets beacuse they're ruled by computer-generated physics, but he can't freeze someone in their tracks beacuse they're capable of the same mind-over-matter hooha that he is, just not on his level. That would explain why he has to sword-fight 8 people manual. I mean if you want to start rationalizing... That's like all these negative reviews calling the fight scenes gratuitous and using arguments that result in their jobs as film critics just as unnecessary.
I didn't like the rave scene much either... like what's with these Stomp drums? They have Hoverships and Mechwarriors but when it's time to rock the house they're unplugged all of a sudden. I agree that the soundtrack as a whole was weaker than the first... and DAVE MATTHEWS?! WHAT?!
― Stuart (Stuart), Sunday, 18 May 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Stuart (Stuart), Sunday, 18 May 2003 23:19 (twenty years ago) link
PS: Thank you, Matrix people for not making Donald Sutherland the Architect. I can tell you wanted to, but it's just better the way it is.
― Dan I., Monday, 19 May 2003 00:21 (twenty years ago) link
also keanu is fucking hot.
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 19 May 2003 00:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron A., Monday, 19 May 2003 00:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 19 May 2003 00:45 (twenty years ago) link
although, because it came from FARK I'm sure most of you have already read it. eh.
― Dan I., Monday, 19 May 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link
I liked it quite a bit. I could pick on the music and the speeches and the acting style in general, but I was happy more than not. Maybe I wanted to like it and that's why I did. I was certainly a bit nervous about seeing it since I'd heard other people's disappointed reviews. I'm not a sophisticated moviegoer, and I guess if you asked me what the point of the movie was, I couldn't tell you. I expected it to be a bridge to the next movie and I think it did a good job of that.
And maybe I'm alone in this, but I think those geek Wachowski boys got the sex stuff just right. I was shocked. I thought the sex scene was really hot, and the rest of the love story very natural and believable. I totally wanted to be Trinity and Neo at the same time, and that's a great feeling.
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 19 May 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 19 May 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 May 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link
A+!!!!
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 19 May 2003 02:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 19 May 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 19 May 2003 06:24 (twenty years ago) link
― adam (adam), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:54 (twenty years ago) link
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― adam (adam), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:40 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 19 October 2003 05:08 (twenty years ago) link
― rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 19 October 2003 05:30 (twenty years ago) link
― rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 19 October 2003 05:31 (twenty years ago) link
"Wait. OK."
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Friday, 7 May 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
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― adam (adam), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link
I've also noticed that timecode can vary between different DVD players, so be wary of that. But yeah, this screencap is among the better ones I could get.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Or at the very least, a need to dress people in leather or rubber. And nothing else.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link
And just think, you could've saved us an IMAX frame from these scenes! I still can't believe you missed this - that's just hilarious.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Friday, 28 May 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 29 May 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 29 May 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
I still dunno how ppl hate on this film when it contains the most intense fight/chase/fight sequence ever created. even when you know everything that happens, it still gives the clench. <3 <3 truck kombat.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 4 October 2008 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i rewatched this after seeing it only once 10 or 12 years ago and it is not very good
― marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link
trying to read about the plot and the purpose of neo in these sequential matrix iterations is hurting my brain
― marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
the first one has a similar amount of corny bits but it is ultimately a very thrilling and enjoyable movie
i never got round to watching the sequels but I caught a bit of the first one on tv the other day and it's in that awkward spot of being old and of its time enough to be egregiously dated but not quite old enough to induce fond nostalgia (caught a bit of austin powers: the spy who shagged me yesterday and it's in that same space in my brain). still a pretty fun film though.
― uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 March 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
i remember seeing this at a midnight show the night before it opened and it was pretty amazing how the thrills of the first film were completely absent here. i watched the car chase again recently and it was boring. i can't even watch the original matrix now tbh because the ending shot of superman neo just reminds me that his continuing adventures are going to be complete garbage.
― nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link
but you get to rock out to ratm while you ponder the disappointments to come
― uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 March 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link
the first film had a decent amount of humor and keanu was fully charming and the action scenes were scaled to a size that made them palpable and human level as opposed to video game-like.
― nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
neo and his pals certainly "raged" against a "machine" in this series you might say
― nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
i'm planning on rewatching the third film soon, i remember absolutely nothing about it except for like neo riding around a spaceship and seeing green code everywhere
― marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
the action scenes also seemed purposeful in the first movie
― marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link
xp that's pretty much all there is too it tbh
― ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Friday, October 3, 2008 11:54 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
truly otm, love and miss u tombot
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
good movie
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 7 November 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
Hadn't seen this since it came out. Tried watching a bit tonight, and you know what? Sucks.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 May 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link
everyone has always been bald
― mark s, Saturday, 25 December 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link
no wonder they all have to wear shades then!
― calzino, Saturday, 25 December 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link
its just too much
― mark s, Saturday, 25 December 2021 13:46 (two years ago) link