DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

Tory doublespeak never more tortuous and beautiful than when they're explaining away employment rights.

How are the Liberal Democrats explaining it?

they seem to be oddly reticent.

i'm liking "if we make it easier for employers to sack staff on a whim then it will boost employment", cd see it being usefully applied to the machinery of government for example

"What about the rights of people currently sitting at home with nothing to do, desperate to get work, but the business can't afford to employ them because they fear they are going to be taken to the tribunal?"

Gotta love this though. It would be funny if it didn't fuck up a lot of people's lives.

Still, to quote Philip Hammond, "The economic benefits will outweigh the very, very small impact in casualty numbers"

I'd expect to see more efforts to casualise full-time employment as we go on. People acting as temps or agency workers make up a significant percentage of the workforce. If you can't create new jobs, you can boost the figures for 'permanent employment' by getting rid of the barriers that stop people hiring full-time staff - like the expectation that you're going to need to treat them fairly.

"vexatious employment tribunals"

NSFW

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/02/david-cameron-sorry-female-mps

"If I offended anyone, I'm hugely sorry."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/oct/03/nhs-bill-doctors-lords

it would be nice if this was a big deal

btw those last two links posted above are gross & have rattled around my head since i read them. the fetishism involved in supporting 'faster deeper harder' cuts - which i don't really think anyone is pushing for at this stage, other than weird contrarian rich kid tories for whom it must seem radical and dispassionately principled - & then, while semi-erect, staying up on indesign til three am eagerly designing a risque poster towards the same end, is really gross.

which i don't really think anyone is pushing for at this stage

Some are, right wing thinktank wonks, pretty sure a few Tory MPs too but have probably been told to button it

just wanna c&p http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/oct/04/conservative-conference-2011-live-coverage here

lots of winning ideas like cutting taxes, encouraging job seekers to seek for several hours a day (to find those jobs that hide between the cracks!) to reduce unemployment, etc.

encouraging job seekers to seek for several hours a day

Uhhhhh, how exactly? Stand on the sidelines, shouting "Get on with it, you lazy sods"

The PM will force claimants to spend more time every day looking for work... Only unemployed people with a long record of previous hard work will be allowed time to ponder future job offers.

Fucking idiots

amusing to watch may blunder into an obvious trap on the bbc coverage re the non-existent criminal and his cat

What's postman pat been up to now?

I want to know what our Home Secretary plans to do about Facebook's plans to introduce monthly charges and the fact that we all swallow eight spiders a year whilst sleeping.

This thing about having to spend "several hours per day" looking for work... I take these unemployed layabouts will all be given access to the internet for several hours a day, 'cos it's next to impossible to find a job without it, and how is that going to work exactly?

From spring next year, a new Jobcentre Plus computer system will allow people to apply for jobs online, with Jobcentre Plus staff monitoring their activities.

LOL, like that's going to work!

Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, has issued this statement about Theresa May's speech: "I had thought rather better of this home secretary ..."

... well you're another fucking idiot then

come now there has to be a thin surface of respect paid to secretaries of state so that when they lie about a cat on telly to justify scrapping the human right act you can have a go at them and it have some weight

Chakrabarti's been snuggling up to the Tories for ages now, idiot

Idiot = Liberal

"The only way out of a debt crisis is to deal with your debts. That means households - all of us - paying off the credit card and store card bills. It means banks getting their books in order."

From my local paper, gaun' yerself Emily!

Apparently the government have nixxed proposals to put some kind of financial education on the National Curriculum? That above post in italics is why. You don't pay your fucking mortgage off in one lump sum at the expense of eating.

"Most hideous of LibDems" = "the ones most likely to take my seat", right?

Also stop telling the voters things like "we are the progressive party". Everyone says it now. Most of the electorate don't have any idea what it means, and assume you're bullshitting them.

xxp

No, you pay your fucking mortgage off in one lump sum at the expense of the taxpayer.

Chakrabarti's been snuggling up to the Tories for ages now, idiot

― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:29 (Yesterday) Permalink

More than snuggling (allegedly).

Cameron isn't that interested in winning the next election. If anyone pays attention to him then anaemic growth will stall as money gets destroyed in mass debt repayment, whacking growth just as the cuts bite.

What's he interested in then?

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/051214/memi06.htm

Oh wait that was years ago...

This is the latest one...

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/100927/cameron_rt-hon-david.htm

Name of donor: News International Supply Company Ltd

Address of donor: 1 Virginia Street, London E98 1XY

Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: Costs incurred from hosting the Leader of the Opposition’s Combat Stress Summit at the House of Commons; total £1241.55 remitted directly to the relevant House of Commons Departments.

Cameron isn't that interested in winning the next election. If anyone pays attention to him then anaemic growth will stall as money gets destroyed in mass debt repayment, whacking growth just as the cuts bite.

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eh?

that reminds me of deathdrone's poker logic tbh

It's a funny Tory who's not interested in winning an election

Apparently the government have nixxed proposals to put some kind of financial education on the National Curriculum?

this has been such a bugbear of mine over the three conferences

Of course Cameron is interested in winning the election, or at least not losing it. He may be increasingly disinterested in being popular, but being unpopular is different to losing elections.

That they're not going to get anywhere near eliminating the deficit in this parliament must surely be the elephant in the room at the conference. They've over-promised.

Looks like he could make a lot more money by losing office.

Given that their defect reduction plan relies on growth, discouraging consumer spending wouldn't be something I'd put at the top of the Agenda. Unless of course, now they've seen they can't get close to eliminating the deficit they think they can still use it whack labour with at the next election or they see a 10 year cost cutting plan as the only way to reconfigure Britain as a low tax, small public sector nightmare.

see a 10 year cost cutting plan as the only way to reconfigure Britain as a low tax, small public sector nightmare

Been the plan all along though hasn't it? The deficit has just let them get away with it.

'The prime minister has re-written the part of his conference speech which appeared to call on households to pay off their credit card and store card bills. His aides insist that this was due to "sloppy drafting" and the briefing-out of an unfinished speech. Mr Cameron will now say that: "The only way out of a debt crisis is to deal with your debts. That's why households - all of us - are paying off the credit card and store card bills." '

Primal Scream express disgust at Theresa May's use of their hit Rocks

Why would she do such a thing? First the feckin' cat and now this!

Prsumably the verses were edited out.

His aides insist that this was due to "sloppy drafting", and the briefing-out of an unfinished speech and their having listened to radio four this morning which said people were already doing it.

Well, that was underwhelming.

Why do the tories hate health and safety so much?