POLLSTAL BLOWFISH - ILM Artist Poll #8 - Guided By Voices - ReSuLtS!!!

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didn't have a chance to chime in yesterday but "Don't Stop Now" is so great because of its dignity: the characters are low, drunks, deadbeats, there's a million of us, we're king shit, nobodies: but the big chiming chords are stately, they say: we are holding their heads up; they should strut like cocks of the block, they are the top of the line big daddies, they are worthy: don't stop now. I love that song so much.

Euler, Friday, 30 September 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

my 20, songs that did not appear in the ilx 60 highlighted:
Quality Of Armor
I Am A Scientist
Exit Flagger
Game Of Pricks
Echos Myron
Little Whirl
My Thoughts Are A Gas
Queen Of Cans And Jars

Gleemer (The Deeds Of Fertile Jim)
Dodging Invisible Rays
Peep-Hole
My Impression Now
Big Boring Wedding
Tractor Rape Chain
Underwater Explosions
Atom Eyes
Now To War

Motor Away
Man Called Aerodynamics
Smothered In Hugs

da croupier, Friday, 30 September 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Mine ...

1 Motor Away
2 Game of Pricks
3 Hot Freaks
4 I Am a Tree
5 Hardcore UFOs
6 Pop Zeus - Robert Pollard and Doug Gillard
7 My Valuable Hunting Knife
8 Echos Myron
9 Buzzards and Dreadful Crows
10 I Am a Scientist
11 Long Distance Man
12 Tractor Rape Chain
13 Everywhere With Helicopter
14 Cutout Witch
15 Exit Flagger
16 Demons Are Real
17 Gold Star for Robot Boy
18 Underwater Explosions
19 Glad Girls
20 Dayton, Ohio—19 Something and 5

Five best albums
1 Bee Thousand
2 Alien Lanes
3 Mag Earhig
4 Under the Bushes, Under the Stars
5 Live at the Wheelchair Races

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Friday, 30 September 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

i totally lurked this thread b/c the thought of compiling a ballot made my brain go crazy... but thanking u, johnny

rip van wanko, Friday, 30 September 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Here's my ballot:

Dusted (Fast Japanese Spin Cycle version)
Quality Of Armor
My Valuable Hunting Knife
Dayton, Ohio in 19 Something and Five
Glad Girls
Over The Neptune/Mesh Gear Fox
The Official Ironmen Rally Song
Indian Was An Angel
Tractor Rape Chain
My Impression Now
Pendulum
Blimps Go 90
Buzzards and Dreadful Crows
Echoes Myron
Old Battery
Teenage FBI
I Am A Scientist
Gleemer (The Deeds of Fertile Jim)
Game Of Pricks
Trap Soul Door

kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Indian Was an Angel was my only one that didn't make the top 60. Should have voted for Tight Globes but I decided to cut out solo stuff.

dmr, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

Old Battery! Interesting choice. Why did you choose it? I like to hear why people like songs as much as I like knowing which songs they voted for.

Amazingly, I haven't exhausted my willingness to talk about this yet.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Friday, 30 September 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for doing all the work on it, Johnny.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Friday, 30 September 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

great poll!

I seem to have lost my ballot, which I would've posted otherwise, but I know I was the only vote for "girl named captain," "little lies" and -- shockingly to me -- "johnny appleseed." that one's a top 10 for me and I always thought it was a fan favorite. hmmm.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

"little lines." oops. but "little lies" will be on my fleetwood mac ballot.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

"little lines." oops. but "little lies" will be on my fleetwood mac ballot.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

yeah -- johnny appleseed! buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz
i did not vote for that but it is a great little tiny song

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

Old Battery! Interesting choice. Why did you choose it?

They really nail the early REM sound on that one. And like all great GBV songs, it's catchy as hell.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 September 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

i totally lurked this thread b/c the thought of compiling a ballot made my brain go crazy... but thanking u, johnny

^^^

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Saturday, 1 October 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

My Thoughts Are A Gas

I voted for this too!

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

If I'm not mistaken the What's Up Matador? version of "Gas" isn't even listed in the discography of Jim Greer's GBV book. It's crazy!

And thanks, Johnny!

da croupier, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's probably been posted already on one of the two threads, but here's "Gas" again. The poster put up art for Tonic & Twisted Chasers, but this is the far superior version found on the "rarities" disc of the What's Up Matador comp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKsPHJNjnBU

da croupier, Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

Here's my ballot. I purposely didn't consider any non-GBV Pollard song, because it took me long enough to decide among the GBV ones. Songs that came closest to making the cut but didn't include June Salutes You!, Twilight Campfighter, Johnny Appleseed, Office of Hearts, Unspirited, If We Wait, Scalding Creek, Non-Absorbing, Jar of Cardinals, Sad if I Lost It and Scissors.

1. A Salty Salute
2. Peephole
3. My Impression Now
4. Over the Neptune / Mesh Gear Fox
5. I Am a Scientist
6. Exit Flagger
7. Tractor Rape Chain
8. Game of Pricks
9. Spring Tiger
10. The Goldheart Mountaintop Queen Directory
11. Big Boring Wedding
12. He's the Uncle
13. The Ascended Master's Grogshop
14. 158 Years of Beautiful Sex
15. Echos Myron
16. Surgical Focus
17. The Brides Have Hit Glass
18. Liar's Tale
19. Dusty Bushworms
20. The Closets of Henry

erasingclouds, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks Johnny! My ballot:

1. Tractor Rape Chain
2. Game Of Pricks
3. Over The Neptune/Mesh Gear Fox
4. The Goldheart Mountaintop Queen Directory
5. Motor Away
6. Weedking
7. Big Boring Wedding
8. My Valuable Hunting Knife
9. Redmen And Their Wives
10. Hardcore UFOs
11. Bright Paper Werewolves
12. Make Use
13. Marchers In Orange
14. Fly Into Ashes
15. Fair Touching
16. Pendulum
17. Dayton, Ohio-19 Something And Five
18. Rhine Jive Click
19. Gleemer
20. Do The Earth

I decided against any Pollard solo material but couldn't resist Make Use. Good times...

ColinO, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Marchers In Orange is a good one, first time I've seen that mentioned

the colors we wear in our dreams, the flags we fly in our films

dmr, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

passed someone on the street at like 1AM the other night who had earbuds in and was singing 'motor away' off-key and/or drunkenly

ciderpress, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'm working my way through Propeller and Vampire on Titus. Would definitely have put "Quality of Armor" up near the top with "Motor Away" and "Robot Boy." Played it four times on the way home tonight--I want my makeshift band to do it next spring at a school assembly. (We did "Subspace Biographies" last year; I've been waiting forever for an ex-student of mine to upload it to YouTube--students in the audience need to be blurred out--and if he ever does, I'll post it here.)

clemenza, Monday, 3 October 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

22 year old Daytonian pees his pants during this installment of "A Day in the Life of Mitch Mitchell"

Guided By Voices probably means more to this town than any other rock band in the Gem City’s history. In case you’ve been living with your ears closed for the past 30 years, or you’re new to the area, Guided By Voices is one of the seminal bands of the original wave of indie rock that followed the grunge movement in the mid-1990s. Most of the bands from that era have either morphed into new, albeit perhaps less-than-stellar incarnations of their previous glory, or faded into obscurity in the torrential pace of media consumption that revels in the hype of a new artist as fast as they cast them aside as one- or two-hit wonders.

Not GBV. Firmly placed atop the best-of list of many music critics, the albums Propeller, Bee Thousand, Alien Lanes, Under The Bushes Under The Stars, a host of singles and EPs remain influential, essential and relevant even today. These are the albums of the so-called Classic Lineup; its present incarnation containing Robert Pollard, Mitch Mitchell, Greg Demos, Tobin Sprout and Kevin Fennell.

After touring the festival circuit this summer, Dayton’s Guided By Voices found the crowds to be larger and more fervent than ever in their appreciation for the music. Somehow, along the way, the band secretly recorded the material for what would become a full album of brand new songs to be released in January 2012. The reunited Classic Lineup laid down all the tracks, utilizing many of the very same recording techniques that made those early albums so endearing to the ears. Let’s Go Eat The Factory proves, beyond disbelief, that GBV is back and back for good.

There’s really no reason a veritable rock star should donate his time to a lowly 22-year-old reporter with a receding hairline writing for an alternative weekly newspaper. And yet that is precisely what makes GBV different. The band, like their music, is eternally accessible. Whether it’s the annual Heedfest where GBV acolytes from across the globe converge on Dayton for a weekend of sightseeing and drunken carousing with their heroes, or my own chance encounter with Mitch Mitchell at Fricker’s on Woodman, the impetus for this story. I was finally able to track him down at Blind Bob’s on Sept. 24.

The question on everyone’s mind: Will Guided By Voices tour again in support of the new record, and the subsequent record to be released in May?

Mitchell replied with a wink. “I can’t say for sure if we’re going to tour, but if we do tour it will definitely be in support of the new material, because it sounds great live and that was the idea this time around.”

“On this past tour,” said Mitchell, “we played a lot of the bigger venues, and that’s nice because more people get the chance to come hear the music, but we still want to play the smaller venues along the way too. I’m just hopeful for some demand for the new record, and even if there isn’t we’ll just keep putting out records.”

It’s strange hearing Mitchell speak with such humility. Demand? For the first GBV record in nearly a generation? It just demonstrates that the true focus of the band has always been recording, and the writing and recording process.

“I always looked at it as an opportunity to record music and listen to finished recordings,” said Mitchell. “And that’s what great about Bob’s (Pollard) phenomenal writing talent. I think he writes a song every day at least. As long as he keeps doing that, I’ll be happy.”

Looking at Mitchell, with tattoos extending from his wrists to his neck, surrounded by an entourage of well-wishers, musicians and female admirers, it’s hard to imagine him as anything else than a bona fide Dayton deity of rock. It wasn’t always this way though — Mitchell used to work as a truck driver, a job he says he’d probably still be doing if it weren’t for Guided By Voices.

“I’ve always liked to travel,” said Mitchell, “and it’s kind of similar to being in a band since you get to see so many places all the time.”

Since GBV “came of age” when the band members were all in their 30s, those long years of working and drinking and making records in garages and basements served to remind the band of the hard work that goes into hard-won success. Mitchell is imbued with a contentment and wisdom of someone who is master of his craft, and happy to give anything he can to the fans and to the town he calls home. Mitchell is still the consummate gentlemen — politely offering a light to any lady about to spark up a cigarette, and patiently listening as the drunks try to get close and tell stories of their own — too shy to talk to him unless thoroughly dosed with liquid courage. It’s a bit surreal. Mitchell says he has to pinch himself sometimes to make sure he’s not dreaming.

“Listening to our records, which I still do, feels like an out-of-body experience,” said Mitchell, “because I’m a part of the recording but the music also affects me on a personal level, in my personal life as well.”

GBV is a band of musicians who make music that they actually like, not products to make money, and to that they owe their endurance.

“It’s real, it’s fucking real, and everyone can relate to reality,” said Mitchell.

And indeed, amid a flood of artists peddling their castrated eunuch rock — the kind preferred by the stale tastemakers of this generation of critics — Guided By Voices has a new record on the horizon, at a time when a fresh breath of power chords, high kicks and testosterone is desperately needed.

“It’s time for some good music again,” said Mitchell. “We can’t let it die. We gotta make it live.”

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

He does not actually pee his pants btw, but this made me lol

And indeed, amid a flood of artists peddling their castrated eunuch rock — the kind preferred by the stale tastemakers of this generation of critics — Guided By Voices has a new record on the horizon, at a time when a fresh breath of power chords, high kicks and testosterone is desperately needed.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

lol at eunuch rock.
while i'm not quite as amped up as this dude, i do confess to a slight giddiness at the prospect of new gbv.

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnyEJ36rmDc

GBV in '96 with Matt Sweeney on bass. 2 hours, 5 encores.

Bastards of Young Dro, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

I used to have that on VHS. No clue what happened to it.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

i posted that upthread! i'm in the crowd.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

You guys this is adorable -- early 1983 version of Tractor Rape Chain called "Tell Me". Lots of the same lyrics, but instead of parallel lines, it's "you gotta tell me how you feel about me"
You have to listen to it, just do it and thank me later

http://www.jamesgreer.net/2011/10/05/guided-by-voices-tell-me/

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link

i seem to recall an alt version of echos myron with some of the most cheesy and lame lyrics i've heard him sing

the men who stare at gotye (electricsound), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

Flowers in your eyes
A panoply of flies

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

"Tell Me" is so cheesy but it's amusing and worth hearing once. Or twice.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, the REM-isms really come out in that early version in a way I'd never picked up from the final incarnation.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link

that is awesome

skip, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

the thing is, I am not much of a lyrics person and like this almost as much as the original, except for the super cheesy main chorus where the banality of the words is unavoidable.

skip, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, me too. it's just over the line of things that make me a little embarrassed for the person who wrote them, but his voice sounds so good that it's easy to overlook. well, kind of. still, what a treat!

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

eeyowch, just listened to the live "dayton ohio nineteen something" from the spotify playlist -- never heard that version! such a great song. is there a real strawberry philadelphia drive?

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

"huffman prairie flying field" demo from suitcase 3 -- super fun for playing leg/table/desk drums too if you know the finished version of the song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Vw2n0R3Uk

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Sunday, 9 October 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

I am very late but can I sub Mesh Gear Fox for my obvious blooper. Campbell you idiot. You skewed me

a good flying bird
non absorbing
quality of armor
exit flagger
my kind of soldier
wished i was a giant
teenage fbi
things i will keep
over the neptune
gold star for robot boy
shocker in gloomtown
valuable hunting knife
game of pricks
they're not witches
cut out witch
official ironman rally song
dont stop now
jane of the waking universe
hold on hope
raincloud

I forgot to rank them

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 9 October 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

kind of a fascinating little glimpse into pollard's process here: http://www.jamesgreer.net/2011/10/13/trendspotter-acrobat/
these blog posts greer writes about GBV are so much better than the actual book he wrote about GBV

tylerw, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

there's an amazing story by Greer on how he literally drew blood onstage playing with GBV. don't know if he posted this on his blog too, but you can find it in no. 13 issue of Five Dials here -> http://fivedials.com/files/fivedials_no13.pdf

V79, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

great story! imagine Bob commanding you to write a song. terrifying.

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

btw does anyone anywhere keep track of those Greer uploads and, like, rips them to mp3's or something? coz I missed another great one, just thinking that I had a chance to (but didn't) listen to an '83 version of "Tractor Rape Chain" makes me feel sick :(

V79, Friday, 14 October 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

you didn't listen? i will sing it for you, here:

you gotta
tell meeeee how you feel about me
you gotta
tell meeee how you feel about me
jangle jingle doot doot doot
the end

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Friday, 14 October 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

*tries to imagine that* *fails miserably*

V79, Friday, 14 October 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

lol
that early tractor rape chain was pretty great. not as great as what we know and love, but sort of nice in a bizarre, alt-universe way.

tylerw, Friday, 14 October 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure Greer said he didn't want people to download them, otherwise he'd stop putting more up, so although they are no doubt out there, it'll probably be on the downlow.

Wandering Boy Poet, Friday, 14 October 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

Yep, I missed it too. FUCK. Honestly, kind of pissed at Greer for this. I 100% understand not wanting people to download it, fair enough, but can't you at least leave the stream up for a few weeks?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 14 October 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

!!!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link


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