Ariel Pink

the boy Pink's done it again. wonderfully bonkers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ZdLTVT12k

i'm not sure about it tbh, listening to imitations of proggish wank isn't my idea of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7eIs-J3tY
i saved 2 disk and must have watched that vdo a dozen times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WpnMVwng0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cdt3taIaZE&feature=related

Syd Barrett?

lol doesn't he melt down at like every show whatev

The "Round and Round" video I made and posted in this thread has 135k views now, jeez.

i think blue oyster cult invented ariel pink with this song, particularly the chorus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTNqyJXTako

lovely tune

So I saw him for the first time last night opening for Pulp and that was...bemusing. I mean, I totally get what he's doing but that was definitely not his crowd (and he knew it, which is what made the canned applause that they played after every song more hilarious, especially when they started fucking around with reverb).

Friends at the SF Pulp show really loathed Ariel.
He was a hit with the Flaming Lips crowd.

what about a new album?
(i mean a proper album, not the esoteric shit he made with Stevie Moore)

Listening to it now. It's not bad, but it's too hi-fi so he neems too naked on the record. Maybe we could get our hands on some demo versions of these new albums.

The last two comments back-to-back are pretty funny.

This new stuff is great. I love his backup band on these studio records!

It's very stripped down arrangements and effects. It's alot more subtle than the older ones. It's not really as fun as the old ones, but they are cool songs.

I think the new album is musically pretty weak. With the last album, he compensated for the lack of lo-fi gauziness by writing good songs and having a punchy band, but this is a slick and lifeless studio record with half-arsed songs.
The main problem though is the awful lyrics. All that moronic creepy bullshit he came out with in the Wire interview about beta male revenge runs through the album and the results are not pleasant. He seems to think he's being transgressive, engaging in acts of genderfucking, but he's just sleazy and wrongheaded. Transphobic lines about 'shemales' hardly help either.

Yeah....i may have to listen to it again later. I kind of phased out after song 3 or 4 and got distracted w something else. On first listen definitely not as cool as "Before Today".

The main problem though is the awful lyrics. All that moronic creepy bullshit he came out with in the Wire interview about beta male revenge runs through the album and the results are not pleasant. He seems to think he's being transgressive, engaging in acts of genderfucking, but he's just sleazy and wrongheaded. Transphobic lines about 'shemales' hardly help either.

Weird. Kind of a further extension of "Menopause Man" then? That "castrate me, make me gay" lyric always bothered me.

That line in Menopause Man made me lol when I first heard it.

I think the songs are tight on this release. I think it's poorly produced, though, and not in like before where it was intentional and for artistic effect.

I can really hear R. Stevie all over this release. I don't know if he had a hand in this record, but the songs sound like RSM songs -- so much so that I wonder if he wrote a handful of these. The lyrics sound just like RSM lyrics, too.

I like this dudes music. not all of it, but about 30%.

fame will destroy him though!

fame already destroyed him

I'm listening to Schnitzel Boogie now. There's a little sketch about a minute into the song, and even his spoken delivery is in an R. Stevie style.

In case anyone missed the Wire interview, I quote: 'Beta males have got it figured out so that they don't even have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak'. Urgh, what a creep.

dig the production on mature themes, and i like that a few of the songs recall 'menopause' man, mix and tone-wise. the "tried to be good, to be good, etc." song sticks in the head. ultra-blissed, even SAW II-like track 12 (nostradamus), and 13 is a summer-time-y treat

if the songwriting is not good, nothing can save the record

In case anyone missed the Wire interview, I quote: 'Beta males have got it figured out so that they don't even have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak'. Urgh, what a creep.

I have no idea what I'm supposed to take away from this snippet. I guess I should read the entire interview.

He expounds this completely idiotic thesis about the ascent of the beta male. Now that the nerds have won, Ariel can get his revenge over alpha males and the women who wouldn't sleep with him. Revenge of the nerd stuff at its most vindictive, misanthropic and misogynistic. As a friend put it, 'Turns out, according to Ariel, you don't have to be a musclebound jock to be an asshole to women any more. It's a great time to be an asshole!'
There are few ok songs on here, but nothing he hasn't done better in the past. And the R Stevie Moore homages are utterly charmless. His whole deliberately bored delivery is a real drag too.

cripes, that's a bummer, but not a shock ... ariel seems like an oddball, though was hoping for something less vicious. why not just think everyone's got there place in society and move on. ::[]

whole thing is on NPR now
http://www.npr.org/2012/08/12/158442302/first-listen-ariel-pinks-haunted-graffiti-mature-themes

Eight tracks into this and the single's been the only really good song.

I like it, but I feel like he should be putting these kinds of records out once or twice a year on Paw Tracks. It doesn't feel like two years worth of work.

tbf, he spent a lot of that time figuring out how not to rape his prey

he's still probably looking for a girl who puts up with his shit and puts out just like a little girl scout.

I mean chick

I feel like he should be putting these kinds of records out once or twice a year on Paw Tracks. It doesn't feel like two years worth of work.

kind of agree with this. it's not awful but ... not very good either. I doubt I'll buy it. I went ahead and just got the "Baby" single (which is great).

I'd rather listen to the original tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONIJXHvoynw

yeah, i don't see the point of the cover. the orignal is awesome, as is the rest of the album it came from.

I wonder how much time he actually spent on this. Pink Slime must have been written fairly recently right?

You all realize musicians often have mood swings and may be under the influence of drugs or attention when taking an interview.

Once you are popular and fashionable you are not a nerd.

That's my point - he's the nerd who's become popular and with his new found sense of power all his seething resentment floods out. I'm sure Mr Pink is no stranger to the devil's dandruff, but the pish he comes out with the interview is backed up by lyrics on the album. Plus it's in the Wire, hardly known for its sensationalist approach.

The album definitely picks up a bit towards the end but, no, I doubt I'll buy this. 'Schnitzel Boogie' followed by 'Symphony of the Nymph' is the low point.

Symphony of the Nymph is the creepy nadir, plus it manages to rip off Kraftwerk and Telstar and still be shit.

In case anyone missed the Wire interview, I quote: 'Beta males have got it figured out so that they don't even have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak'. Urgh, what a creep.

― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:32 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

URGH. Total creep. I haven't read the interview in The Wire, but I did read a really dopey interview in Bomb and I was trying my best not to let affect my opinion of the music.

I'm really enjoying the record in spite of myself.

The one with Cass McCombs? Just looked this up. Good lord, bisexuals are castrated? Young people defining themselves as bi is 'a mutation'? This guy is a fucking moron.

AP It’s a good point, so the people that go to action are the kids. Therefore music is targeted to a youth audience. The youth are castrating themselves. Willingly. That political correctness thing. Everybody’s bi now. Have you noticed that?

CM Outside of San Francisco?

AP Everybody under 27 years old. Every girl I’ve ever met who’s under 27: bi. Call me old-fashioned. That did not happen in my generation. I find it very disturbing, frankly. The Millennials are what I’m talking about—they have no gender. Their gender is a biological imperative. It can’t be a choice, of course. They’re just born bi. Maybe it’s a mutation or something like that.

i have no idea what he is getting at there. maybe its a joke? he's being ironic?

still doesn't make sense

He's just trying to get some transgressive millennial groupie action.

i really love this record after 5 or 6 listens. was not super impressed after the first